650 delivery miles?

650 delivery miles?

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Frippe

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30 posts

167 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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I just saw this ad, for a 2015 with delivery miles.


https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

It looks strangely cheap ? Should I be concerned it has not been used?

MDL111

6,940 posts

177 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Looks good with the silver and orange
Would probably want a good warranty in case it develops any niggles due to no use

Sarnie

8,044 posts

209 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Silver.

Coupe.

LHD.

MDL111

6,940 posts

177 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Sarnie said:
Silver.

Coupe.

LHD.
All positives for me smile

TP321

1,478 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Sarnie said:
Silver.

Coupe.

LHD.
At £140k, thats expensive - no one wants a 650 coupe. Save £40k and pick up a 12C.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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With the carbon tub the spiders are just so good a coupe is a rare beast indeed as 90% of people will opt for the spider which is like 3 cars in 1 and a relative bargain for the £20k difference. You can probably get yourself a reasonable used RHD spider for £25k more unless you are specifically looking at LHD

Frippe

Original Poster:

30 posts

167 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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I understand the spider is the more preferred option, which is also reflected in prices of spider vs coupes. The relevant comparison here though has to be against other coupes, for which this is very cheap especially considering prices in continental Europe, which are at a premium to UK prices.eg if no one would have concerns about the car not being used you could easily buy it here and drive it over to Germany and sell it for a substantial premium.

Hence my concern, should I be worried it hasn’t been used? What if any costs could I expect, I assume it has a 3 yr factory warrant and presumably any issues would come up within the first year.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Frippe said:
I understand the spider is the more preferred option, which is also reflected in prices of spider vs coupes. The relevant comparison here though has to be against other coupes, for which this is very cheap especially considering prices in continental Europe, which are at a premium to UK prices.eg if no one would have concerns about the car not being used you could easily buy it here and drive it over to Germany and sell it for a substantial premium.

Hence my concern, should I be worried it hasn’t been used? What if any costs could I expect, I assume it has a 3 yr factory warrant and presumably any issues would come up within the first year.
So you are thinking of buying it to sell it in Europe ? Cant imagine there is any money to be made in that at £140k

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Yep 3 year warranty - the ad states FSH so I assume its valid.

I dont understand the LHD mkt, but as a UK car its not good value, my silver, 4,500 mile, 2015, RHD, spider with higher spec (more carbon bits) is less than 10% more.



Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Had a quick look on mobile.de and yep, 650s coupe are advertised much higher than in the UK

baypond

398 posts

135 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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The benefits of a cheap exchange rate is that European prices are up 20% in GBP terms over the last year. Which is why a falling UK market will get some support from European prices where GDP and confidence is on the up, broadly speaking.

hornbaek

3,675 posts

235 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Tom Hartley clearly wasn’t born yesterday. If it would be easy to sell it in Germany he would long have done that.

isaldiri

18,573 posts

168 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Wilmslowboy said:
Yep 3 year warranty - the ad states FSH so I assume its valid.

I dont understand the LHD mkt, but as a UK car its not good value, my silver, 4,500 mile, 2015, RHD, spider with higher spec (more carbon bits) is less than 10% more.


There is absolutely no reason why rhd cars have to be more expensive? Mclaren make a lot of rhd cars relatively, certainly vs say rhd Porsche GT cars as a % of overall production. If anything the rhd Mclarens should be under the lhd prices, like the lhd CSL market some years ago to take a somewhat extreme example. Or even the 6rs rhd market, for a long time due to overall higher % of rhd cars than usual they were not anything like the same premium as the 7rs rhd.

Frippe

Original Poster:

30 posts

167 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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hornbaek said:
Tom Hartley clearly wasn’t born yesterday. If it would be easy to sell it in Germany he would long have done that.
Agree with that, which brings me back to think it’s at a discount for being not used.

I’m not looking to flip but am interested in owning a 650, especially as asking prices has come down over last months. Ideally I am after a LHD spider but have not found any for sale in the UK and on the continent they are still at a significant premium vs a RHD spider + hassle of 8mporting might mean gap is too large and I should just settle with a RHD

Sarnie

8,044 posts

209 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Frippe said:
Agree with that, which brings me back to think it’s at a discount for being not used.

I’m not looking to flip but am interested in owning a 650, especially as asking prices has come down over last months. Ideally I am after a LHD spider but have not found any for sale in the UK and on the continent they are still at a significant premium vs a RHD spider + hassle of 8mporting might mean gap is too large and I should just settle with a RHD
I know of a LHD Volcano Red 650s Spider that may still be for sale........

onlogbook.com

1,828 posts

154 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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I wouldn’t touch any car with such low miles with a barge pole. Simply asking for trouble imho. I have no mechanical or technical expertise to support this view!

TP321

1,478 posts

198 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Frippe said:
Agree with that, which brings me back to think it’s at a discount for being not used.

I’m not looking to flip but am interested in owning a 650, especially as asking prices has come down over last months. Ideally I am after a LHD spider but have not found any for sale in the UK and on the continent they are still at a significant premium vs a RHD spider + hassle of 8mporting might mean gap is too large and I should just settle with a RHD
Don’t worry, 650s prices will continue the downward trend now that the 570s Spider and 720s are out. McLaren are very good at making their own models very obsolete with the introduction of a new one...The Sports series is supposed to be the entry level, yet a 570 Spider with just 570hp, no aero or active suspension is now over £200k...WTF? You were paying less than this last year for a 650s. Madness.

rs200evo

131 posts

247 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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TP321 said:
Don’t worry, 650s prices will continue the downward trend now that the 570s Spider and 720s are out. McLaren are very good at making their own models very obsolete with the introduction of a new one...The Sports series is supposed to be the entry level, yet a 570 Spider with just 570hp, no aero or active suspension is now over £200k...WTF? You were paying less than this last year for a 650s. Madness.
I think you will find a 570 Spider is £165k. What's the competition for a convertible with a carbon tub, and 570+ BHP at that price? I've been looking around for alternatives and I don't see why you think a 570 Spider is 'Madness'....

tyrrell

1,670 posts

208 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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yes could not agree more, but he only posts negative things re all things McLaren, most people just ignore it and carry on regardless.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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onlogbook.com said:
I wouldn’t touch any car with such low miles with a barge pole. Simply asking for trouble imho. I have no mechanical or technical expertise to support this view!
I would normally agree, but this one's only been parked 2 years, hardly decades of storage.

Tyres may have flat-spotted but all the other rubber won't be any worse than a car that's been lightly used of the last 2 years. The only nagging doubt would be the infamous gearbox oil seal which reports suggest are more prone to fail on cars which are used less.

Ensure you keep the McLaren warranty, check everything electrical works then drive and enjoy.