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Hi folks, looking for some advice on storage, I keep a few cars in a barn, including my P1 which is always connected to its charger, cycling the batteries.
I take the P1 for a drive at least once every 2 weeks to allow it to get up to normal temperature.
The barn is a reasonably well insulated concrete but currently not heated, and ice cold air can enter over above the roller door.
Its a big 3 storey high barn so not really viable to heat.
Should I be worried about dropping temperatures with the expensive batteries etc?
Should I pop it in the dining room instead? :O)
Any advice would be great!
Steve
I take the P1 for a drive at least once every 2 weeks to allow it to get up to normal temperature.
The barn is a reasonably well insulated concrete but currently not heated, and ice cold air can enter over above the roller door.
Its a big 3 storey high barn so not really viable to heat.
Should I be worried about dropping temperatures with the expensive batteries etc?
Should I pop it in the dining room instead? :O)
Any advice would be great!
Steve
I've just measured my living room and the P1 should just about squeeze in...?
On a serious note, can you not buy heat mats that you could roll out under it to take the chill off it?? I'm sure some TVR owners use them for there oil pre start up due to the poor oil circulation on those..
On a serious note, can you not buy heat mats that you could roll out under it to take the chill off it?? I'm sure some TVR owners use them for there oil pre start up due to the poor oil circulation on those..
I don't but am sure a google search will give you some options..
Not sure what flooring you have, but tiled pads with something like this under the P1's place...? https://totaltiles.co.uk/underfloor-heating-mat-20...
Not sure what flooring you have, but tiled pads with something like this under the P1's place...? https://totaltiles.co.uk/underfloor-heating-mat-20...
If there no McLaren of other prestige motor dealers who would put it on indoor heated 'display' FOC, have you thought about putting it in an insulated outdoor spec 'carcoon' type bubble.
www.carcoon.com
www.carcoon.com
The Surveyor said:
If there no McLaren of other prestige motor dealers who would put it on indoor heated 'display' FOC, have you thought about putting it in an insulated outdoor spec 'carcoon' type bubble.
www.carcoon.com
I think he wants the option of being able to drive it when and as he pleases.. www.carcoon.com
Carcoon is an option but maybe a bit of a "faff"?
An underheated tiled pad, with car sat in "race" mode with its arse on the floor would make sense... but then maybe the car will be fine. Ironically the more you drive it the more the warmer the climate will become, thus reducing the need for the heating
likesachange said:
I think he wants the option of being able to drive it when and as he pleases..
Carcoon is an option but maybe a bit of a "faff"?
An underheated tiled pad, with car sat in "race" mode with its arse on the floor would make sense... but then maybe the car will be fine. Ironically the more you drive it the more the warmer the climate will become, thus reducing the need for the heating
Heeeey.. its a hybrid Carcoon is an option but maybe a bit of a "faff"?
An underheated tiled pad, with car sat in "race" mode with its arse on the floor would make sense... but then maybe the car will be fine. Ironically the more you drive it the more the warmer the climate will become, thus reducing the need for the heating
likesachange said:
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An underheated tiled pad, with car sat in "race" mode with its arse on the floor would make sense... ....
I'm not sure a patch of heated floor under a car in a 3 storey high concrete barn is going to do much to help the car, hence the Carcoon bubble suggestion. It'll keep it dry and insulated from the worse of the cold without trying to heat a huge barn.An underheated tiled pad, with car sat in "race" mode with its arse on the floor would make sense... ....
Just thinking outside the box here, some sorted heated matt to go under the car to provide a little radiant heat has been suggested, I'm thinking hm thats pretty much what an electric blanket is right? One of those underneath the car (assuming it is obviously zero risk of getting wet) would provide some heat that would keep the underneath of the car a decent amount above ambient. However I would probably be worried about the fire risk and you probably will too if you are worried about your car like this.
I worry about any of my cars when parked outside so I can totally understand where you are coming from. How cold does it get where you live though? My understanding is that batteries under-perform when cold, however I'm not sure if they actually sustain damage from simply sitting in a cold environment? Assuming they car is kept on a charger then the process of gently charging will provide a little bit of warmth.
I worry about any of my cars when parked outside so I can totally understand where you are coming from. How cold does it get where you live though? My understanding is that batteries under-perform when cold, however I'm not sure if they actually sustain damage from simply sitting in a cold environment? Assuming they car is kept on a charger then the process of gently charging will provide a little bit of warmth.
We've got one of these which works well and it's not too much of a faff to get the car out.
https://www.carcoon.com/carcoon-indoor-veloce
https://www.carcoon.com/carcoon-indoor-veloce
I would construct a wooden box within the barn, and either central heat it or add storage heaters. I would make sure the box was properly sealed to keep it clear of rodents. I have a timber frame Kentish barn, which I have insulated and central heated separate from the house which I use for cars.
I also have boxed out a stable and have storage heaters for household storage. You just need a friendly carpenter!
I also have boxed out a stable and have storage heaters for household storage. You just need a friendly carpenter!
Hi,
Living in Sweden I have some experience of minus....
I know guys that park up for winter in barns and they use different techniques:
1. An app controlled interior heater fan that they can turn on as/when needed. This is only really for the ambient temp inside the car though.
2. Some guys have (as was suggested previously) installed underfloor heating in a section on boards with a thermostat. Depending on size/requirements the heat cables are probably about 350w so will cost a few quid of electricity. Easy just to drive onto a "floor" and it doesn't matter if it gets wet as they are completely safe and IP rated. I reckon you could do the whole set up for less that £500. Only question is how much heat effect you'll get and if you're happy with it.
Check out http://www.ebeco.com/
They are market leaders, in Sweden anyway.
You can buy smaller heat blankets that are mainly used to heat hydrolic oil tanks on forestry equipment but I think these would be difficult to fit anywhere.
My daily is a Cayenne hybrid but is garaged so I haven't needed to do any of the above...
Living in Sweden I have some experience of minus....
I know guys that park up for winter in barns and they use different techniques:1. An app controlled interior heater fan that they can turn on as/when needed. This is only really for the ambient temp inside the car though.
2. Some guys have (as was suggested previously) installed underfloor heating in a section on boards with a thermostat. Depending on size/requirements the heat cables are probably about 350w so will cost a few quid of electricity. Easy just to drive onto a "floor" and it doesn't matter if it gets wet as they are completely safe and IP rated. I reckon you could do the whole set up for less that £500. Only question is how much heat effect you'll get and if you're happy with it.
Check out http://www.ebeco.com/
They are market leaders, in Sweden anyway.
You can buy smaller heat blankets that are mainly used to heat hydrolic oil tanks on forestry equipment but I think these would be difficult to fit anywhere.
My daily is a Cayenne hybrid but is garaged so I haven't needed to do any of the above...
As said earlier, humidity is a bigger enemy, but most of the car is made from various forms of plastics and aluminium. I have not checked to see what the batteries are (Li-ion?), but the cold will simply drop the voltage...provided you have your charger connected then there will be no issues. The charger maintains the voltage and condition.
Best way to prevent condensation is ventilation, so put some nice vent holes in your barn!
Think your main issue might be your windscreen washers freezing up, but that`s unlikely in a barn.
Best way to prevent condensation is ventilation, so put some nice vent holes in your barn!
Think your main issue might be your windscreen washers freezing up, but that`s unlikely in a barn.
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