Surprising sale!

[Beefmeister]

Must say i'm very surprised to see Andy74b's P1 GTR up for sale:

http://www.tomhartleyjnr.com/used/2016/mclaren/p1/...



I guess he's got either a Senna, Valkyrie or Project One coming but the P1 is such a perfect pair with his F1 GTR, seems very odd to sell it.

[J8 SVG]

He has a valkyrie on the way and he's always said he loves the F1 way more than the P1 and if he's got the choice of one or the other he'll always drive the F1..

They do look amazing together though

[Beefmeister]

J8 SVG said:

He has a valkyrie on the way and he's always said he loves the F1 way more than the P1 and if he's got the choice of one or the other he'll always drive the F1..

They do look amazing together though

Ah okay. It's easy to assume there's a bottomless pot of money but even those with mega money need to release funds to buy a £3m car like the Valkyrie

[p1stonhead]

Any guesses? £4m?

[WCZ]

still the quickest road legal ring car! wonder how this next wave will perform

[Streetrod]

Now I would buy that if I was suitably rich plus I suspect I would double its mileage in my first weekend of ownership

[Butter Face]

p1stonhead said:

Any guesses? £4m?

Is that what a P1 goes for??

[p1stonhead]

Butter Face said:

p1stonhead said:

Any guesses? £4m?

Is that what a P1 goes for??

A road legal P1 GTR is pretty rare. It’s no mere P1. I think the GTR was £2.5m to start with, then conversion etc?

Perhaps £3m more realistic?

[Sarnie]

£3-£4m cars......................I obviously didn't try hard enough at school............

[will_]

The surprise for me is that it's only done 850 miles - what's the point?

[p1stonhead]

will_ said:

The surprise for me is that it's only done 850 miles - what's the point?

When it costs you £10k a mile or some nonsense (probably) even the richest blokes would think twice about every single one I guess.

[Butter Face]

will_ said:

The surprise for me is that it's only done 850 miles - what's the point?

Does seem a shame doesn’t it! Cars like these aren’t bought to drive though, they’re bought to keep nice, clean and dry and it’s better than money in the bank!

[p1stonhead]

Sarnie said:

£3-£4m cars......................I obviously didn't try hard enough at school............

Says the man who also owns a McLaren!

[hurstg01]

WCZ said:

still the quickest road legal ring car! wonder how this next wave will perform

Incorrect - the P1 GTR 'only' has the 3.8L engine; the Ring Lap Time holder P1LM has the 4.0L and has 40% extra down force [Have you seen that wing!!] and made-for-it Pirelli tyres

I bet the P1GTR could still set a sub 7 minute lap though

[pincher]

Dealer has financing available - once I’m off the toilet, I’ll get on the phone

[Davey S2]

Looks amazing in the pics but I've never really seen the point of these road converted race cars.

You just end up with a very compromised road car and a race car that's not quite as good on track as it was originally.

Not something you could take on a trip around Europe without a lot of support either.

I know Andy isn't exactly spoilt for choice about which cars to drive but just 850 miles on this would seem to show its little more than a show car.

[Davey S2]

Is this his 'Spectre' Defender also up for sale with TH?

http://www.tomhartleyjnr.com/used/2011/land-rover/...

[will_]

p1stonhead said:

will_ said:

The surprise for me is that it's only done 850 miles - what's the point?

When it costs you £10k a mile or some nonsense (probably) even the richest blokes would think twice about every single one I guess.

Well sure, but certainly the impression I got was that a lot of thought, time and energy had gone into making the car bespoke (e.g. the LARK livery). Was it Evo that drove it too? For it not even then to have been run-in seems a bit weird - like building a house to your exact specification and then not living in it!

He doesn't seem to mind doing some miles in his F1, where exactly the same argument applies.

Up to Andy of course but I expected the car to have done some miles and not be a garage queen. Maybe it actually is horrid to drive on the road?

[andy74b]

Davey S2 said:

Looks amazing in the pics but I've never really seen the point of these road converted race cars.

You just end up with a very compromised road car and a race car that's not quite as good on track as it was originally.

Not something you could take on a trip around Europe without a lot of support either.

I know Andy isn't exactly spoilt for choice about which cars to drive but just 850 miles on this would seem to show its little more than a show car.

Hardly just a show car. I would love to do more miles in all my cars but working in London during the week and busy family life with 3 kids simply means do not have the time. Between my cars I still manage decent mileage and I think anyone that knows me knows that all my cars get used.

[Butter Face]

TH jnr really does have some awesome cars too

Edit: Also, TH has a P1 @ 1.5, IMO this seems better 'value' if you're actually gonna drive it?!

Edited by Butter Face on Thursday 4th January 10:17