Surprising sale!

[Butter Face]

I’ve always thought the locations are quite odd for millions of pounds worth of car sales. Just chucked in round the back of some other peoples houses...

[epom]

I've just added it to the cars I'm obesessing over thread, so I assume that gets me first refusal Andy ?

[Rich_W]

Butter Face said:

Junior used to work for Dad and now has his own completely separate business.

Completely separate, Miles away....

Well, a few yards as the crow flies.

Thanks for the info

Suggests a rivalry as a result of a spectacular falling out!


Interesting the post above about their respective personalities....

[Davey S2]

Rich_W said:

Butter Face said:

Junior used to work for Dad and now has his own completely separate business.

Completely separate, Miles away....

Well, a few yards as the crow flies.

Thanks for the info

Suggests a rivalry as a result of a spectacular falling out!


Interesting the post above about their respective personalities....

I thought it was more that Jnr wanted to specialise in older classics.

Interesting Google earth pic. You can see the bridge in the lake they use for their 'arty' pics.

[Ferruccio]

This-isnt-real said:

Travellers don’t tend to travel far

Errrrr, what a vile thing to say - they’ve built a fantastic business over many, many years.
Not that many people have done that successfully in their business.
Most come and go.

[RC211V]

There was no fall out between the Hartley's and they are not "travellers" either. They are pictured together all the time and have all worked very hard to build the business's

Carl still works with Tom senior specialising in modern sports/supercars and Tom Jnr is based very close by concentrating on classics and specialist cars.

[WCZ]

BelfastBoy said:

Something like a road-legal converted P1 GTR is just odd.Mclaren went to the trouble of additional time and development,modifying the road car into a track-only special...which is then converted to road legal for owners who (in many cases) may already be P1 owners anyway!

yet the irony is that the road legal gtr lm is more capable than the track only gtr!

[This-isnt-real]

Ferruccio said:

Errrrr, what a vile thing to say - they’ve built a fantastic business over many, many years.
Not that many people have done that successfully in their business.
Most come and go.

Apologies to the travelling community

[Beefmeister]

This-isnt-real said:

Apologies to the travelling community

[Buster73]

RC211V said:

There was no fall out between the Hartley's and they are not "travellers" either. They are pictured together all the time and have all worked very hard to build the business's

Carl still works with Tom senior specialising in modern sports/supercars and Tom Jnr is based very close by concentrating on classics and specialist cars.

I've read all their Twitter accounts , TH snr sings the praises of The Carlo or whatever he calls his partner / CEO that paticular day a lot of the time , but very very rarely mentions TH jnr.

They are certainly not pictured together all the time either.

I cannot imagine a business splitting the way it has , without any conflict or falling out in some way to be honest , competing against each other now regardless of what picture is painted.

On first viewing it would appear both businesses are successful and no doubt down to hard work , but I'm not privy to any of their financial dealings so wouldn't be aware of the truth.

Best of luck to both businesses.

[Davey S2]

RC211V said:

Carl still works with Tom senior specialising in modern sports/supercars and Tom Jnr is based very close by concentrating on classics and specialist cars.

Looking at the Previously Sold section of THJ's website he really has flogged some really amazing cars.

[Rich_W]

Davey S2 said:

RC211V said:

Carl still works with Tom senior specialising in modern sports/supercars and Tom Jnr is based very close by concentrating on classics and specialist cars.

Looking at the Previously Sold section of THJ's website he really has flogged some really amazing cars.

http://www.tomhartleyjnr.com/used/previously-sold-...

Ex Schumacher/Barrichello 2002 F1

Plus he got the delivery mileage F1 a while back.



If I had to choose 1 car from his current stock, I think I'll plump for



Just a gorgeous thing!

Edited by Rich_W on Friday 5th January 21:18

[MrC986]

If it wasn't for the unnecessary display of wealth courtesy of some very "questionable" /expensive wrought iron gates, you could easily drive past THs place if you didn't know what you were looking for. I went to THs about 15 yrs ago before the creation of the super showroom and new paddling pool he parks his cars in (or is it on?)& even then it was an impressive place. I admire the guys as they clearly must know what they're doing as they've outlasted many other super car "specialists" through recent recessions.

Back on topic, the Lark P1 looks a great car & I've watched it being driven on the road (via YouTube).

[Birkin1932]

It's a bit weird how THJ puts POA on his website but freely shows prices here

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/services/car-dealers/...

[p1stonhead]

About what I thought for the P1



But the Spectre Defender!

[Butter Face]

Birkin1932 said:

It's a bit weird how THJ puts POA on his website but freely shows prices here

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/services/car-dealers/...

Interesting!

2.75m in the P1!

Makes the Huayra at 1.65m looks great value

[ibisti]

Birkin1932 said:

It's a bit weird how THJ puts POA on his website but freely shows prices here

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/services/car-dealers/...

On Autotrader you have to list a price to advertise, you can't list as POA

[Zarco]

More odd that he even bothers with autotrader. Who would even look there for cars such as this?

[pincher]

Birkin did.....

[Davey S2]

£225K for that Defender is laughable even if it was in a Bond film.

Dino at £375K. I drove a RHD one with 20K miles through France a good few years ago. Wonder what that would command now. Think the owner paid about £60K for it originally.

Edited by Davey S2 on Monday 8th January 11:50