Current real world running costs? 12C

Current real world running costs? 12C

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V6 inside

105 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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In my 3 years of ownership I've had replaced under warranty:
Suspension spring
HVAC control panel
Gearbox (with improved seals apparently)

and thats about it!

I've left the McWarranty and gone with a tailor made WarrantyWise warranty for £265 a month pay as you go.

Gives me £15k claim limit and covers the gearbox, media and AC up to £15k

Hopefully will now keep it for another 3 years.

Nothing comes close for the money and the 12C is really aging well in my eyes

Nomal

258 posts

111 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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V6 inside said:
In my 3 years of ownership I've had replaced under warranty:
Suspension spring
HVAC control panel
Gearbox (with improved seals apparently)

and thats about it!

I've left the McWarranty and gone with a tailor made WarrantyWise warranty for £265 a month pay as you go.

Gives me £15k claim limit and covers the gearbox, media and AC up to £15k

Hopefully will now keep it for another 3 years.

Nothing comes close for the money and the 12C is really aging well in my eyes
So the warranty work done so far was during the McWarranty?? Or was this with Warranty Wise?

Thanks.

V6 inside

105 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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McWarranty. It expired last Friday

CTE

1,488 posts

240 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Just had my car returned from annual service and MOT via the Rybrook transporter, and had good chat with driver. He said that of all the McLaren products, he`d have a 12c because they seem to have the least issues. Must admit I`d have thought the 650S would be pretty comparable but can see the newer cars being more troublesome given they are pushing boundaries.

I`ve not bothered with any of the warranties and so far in the 3 years of ownership the only costs have been due to me causing minor damage, other than I have had just had to have a seat sensor replaced at £2200...most of which was the removal etc of the seat. I`ve got a couple of advisories for the future, but both of which will cost less than £1k to sort if required. If the gearbox goes bang, which it won`t, I`ll take it to Thorney motorsport, unless McLaren wake up to reality.

ChrisW.

6,299 posts

255 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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And despite my experience I still believe they are great cars.

But I would have the McL warranty ... and then I'd drive it enough to make it cost effective smile

barchetta_boy

2,195 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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I'm on my 2nd 12C (a spider) and just ticked over 10k miles with no warranty other than RAC and no issues, touch wood.

12Cs are very well made. 570s and 720s, not so much. All about how many they are pumping out!

RBT0

1,476 posts

119 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Pondering on a 600LT, I wonder if they've fixed all these known issues?

Being new to Macca world, I would not mind if one of you could recap on known issues on 570....

Many thanks

...and why on earth they do not offer free service like Ferrari?

Edited by RBT0 on Tuesday 17th July 21:16

vanman1936

759 posts

219 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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Interesting thread.

Few people mention tracking their 12C - how are they on brakes and tyres?

P

Nomal

258 posts

111 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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RBT0 said:
Pondering on a 600LT, I wonder if they've fixed all these known issues?

Being new to Macca world, I would not mind if one of you could recap on known issues on 570....

Many thanks

...and why on earth they do not offer free service like Ferrari?

Edited by RBT0 on Tuesday 17th July 21:16
Having owned a 12 month old 570S now for just over two weeks the main issue I guess is oxidation on body panels. mine is going back next week for some warranty work to address this.

isaldiri

18,570 posts

168 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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vanman1936 said:
Interesting thread.

Few people mention tracking their 12C - how are they on brakes and tyres?

P
Remarkably good on tyres (non old spec MC Corsa anyway) considering the performance. OEM pads (iron brakes) are hopeless though, barely lasted me 2-3 trackdays so changed to RS29 pagids which were much better and lasted longer (and were cheaper).

vanman1936

759 posts

219 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Intimidating / snappy or progressive on track?

I have done quite a few Palmer days plus my own cheapo track car....however taking your own £100k car on track a different matter 😳

isaldiri

18,570 posts

168 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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vanman1936 said:
Intimidating / snappy or progressive on track?

I have done quite a few Palmer days plus my own cheapo track car....however taking your own £100k car on track a different matter ??
the car's got a lot of power to grip so that's intimidating if not used to it. But in the dry the car is imo very progressive with plenty of feedback from the chassis/systems especially in track handling mode.

However in the wet it's a very different thing and for me very unnerving as the car either does a lot of intervention when you don't expect (as you try to soften up the suspension but that increases the ESC levels a lot) or the car has a lot of grip even in the wet until...it suddenly doesn't. I never really trusted the car on track in the wet (never an issue on the road tbf) but it was an awfully impressive car in the dry and very very quick.

johnnyreggae

2,936 posts

160 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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Just spotted this ad from Furlonger https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

So perhaps now its not just Thorney

justin220

5,338 posts

204 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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johnnyreggae said:
Just spotted this ad from Furlonger https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

So perhaps now its not just Thorney
Seems expensive to me?

ferdi p

1,519 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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justin220 said:
Seems expensive to me?
It is, I paid less for a major from Mclaren Birmingham, including pick up & delivery!

RBT0

1,476 posts

119 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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Nomal said:
RBT0 said:
Pondering on a 600LT, I wonder if they've fixed all these known issues?

Being new to Macca world, I would not mind if one of you could recap on known issues on 570....

Many thanks

...and why on earth they do not offer free service like Ferrari?

Edited by RBT0 on Tuesday 17th July 21:16
Having owned a 12 month old 570S now for just over two weeks the main issue I guess is oxidation on body panels. mine is going back next week for some warranty work to address this.
Whaaaat?

I cannot even read that. No way.

I had this issue on my '95 Fiat Cinquecento Sporting. Never had it since then.

I cannot believe we're talking of a McLaren.

No way.

Nomal

258 posts

111 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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RBT0 said:
Whaaaat?

I cannot even read that. No way.

I had this issue on my '95 Fiat Cinquecento Sporting. Never had it since then.

I cannot believe we're talking of a McLaren.

No way.
Yes 100%, its going in next week. It is a known issue, normally front wings but mine is on the lower door panels.

RBT0

1,476 posts

119 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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It's a pure shame.

Are they going to re-paint it?

I guess it's due to hand built manufacturing...

Nomal

258 posts

111 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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RBT0 said:
It's a pure shame.

Are they going to re-paint it?

I guess it's due to hand built manufacturing...
Yes , the panels are to be replaced and then painted. I have been assured no Harlequin car!!

Paza3

Original Poster:

196 posts

131 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Well gents,

Thanks for the input everyone has put in.

I spent some more time reading about 12c's again and I also decided to pick up the phone to John at Thorny Motorsport and he gave me some honest practical advice and costing's on parts and servicing etc and am feeling more confident with the 12c now, also dropped Jeff an email at the owners club.

I think am going to take the plunge, compare to a 430 or Gallardo its seems a better purchase.

Best sell my F type first but hopefully I be able to update by the end of the year, hoping to maybe get a decent winter buy.

smile