Discussion
RBT0 said:
I don't get it, people wasting their money on custom plates...well, I get it if really you got money to bin.
If you buy clever, it's not money binned.A good friend of mine has a cherished number business and up until recently only dealt with the higher end stuff...he has now started to deal with some of the sub £5k mark...he makes a very healthy living out of it.
He aquired a Ferrari related plate for when i got my 1st one...people asked more about the plate than the car. Its now up for sale at a faintly ridiculous 5 figure sum ( 400% increase in value ) but I'm not really interested in a sale...it was more to keep the missus happy; i have chucked it on my van as i really like it and have dismissed a few offers.
He aquired a nice non-related plate for my McLaren at the last auction. His opinion is within 3 years it will be worth at least 50-75% more. I see it as a bit of fun and a bit of an investment rather than cash sitting about doing nothing.
Can't say how the 600 LT plate would perform as it is very specific...probably remain static but if its your thing and you have the model worth having.
I would guess it would go for maybe £6-7k + fees.
355spiderguy said:
I would guess it would go for maybe £6-7k + fees.
Going from my own recent experience with "MAC 720S" at the last DVLA auction, I reckon it will go for at least £10K. I was up against a few bidders. The reserve was just a few hundred quid but it escalated V quickly.I've bought several private plates over the years - always sold for more than paid. I bought "WHU 120N" at the DVLA auction last year for my other arfs West Ham themed Nissan Figaro. Eventually paid £4K for it - there was a lot of interest because of the "120N", which reflects their other name as the "IRONs". When they win the premiership in 2050, I will sell it.
The 600 LT is worth a punt to resell if it could be bought for £6-7K. Hmmmm……
WARNING - The following pictures may offend.
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MAC 720S said:
Going from my own recent experience with "MAC 720S" at the last DVLA auction, I reckon it will go for at least £10K. I was up against a few bidders. The reserve was just a few hundred quid but it escalated V quickly.
The 600 LT is worth a punt to resell if it could be bought for £6-7K. Hmmmm……
Yup...i was one of the other bidders but i pulled the plug at £6k!The 600 LT is worth a punt to resell if it could be bought for £6-7K. Hmmmm……
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I knew that i was buying the plate i ended up putting on my McLaren at whatever it took to secure and i would of got a doing from the missus if i had bought that also. As luck would have it, my plate was right at the end of the auction and we ended getting it for around £3k less than we anticipated paying. The fees that need to be added at these auction prices add on £000's though and easy to get sucked in.
I was planning ahead for a 720 spider hence bidding on your plate, but shall not be bidding on this auction.
I think it looks great on your 720.
Regards the west ham mobile....
wow!Disappointed there's not metal footrest next to pedals but just carpet.
Any aftermarket alu footrest that can be attached with felt and straps?
Remember old days when had same issues on my Abarth G. Punto and a fellow enthusiast and owner put on sale an alu footrest that looked screwed to the floor but was actually strap on carpet.
Please tell me someone has already thought about it.
Any aftermarket alu footrest that can be attached with felt and straps?
Remember old days when had same issues on my Abarth G. Punto and a fellow enthusiast and owner put on sale an alu footrest that looked screwed to the floor but was actually strap on carpet.
Please tell me someone has already thought about it.
Update on my 600LT.
Done now c. 750 miles, just checked oil level, it's on the same position as last time at c. 200 miles, one bar above middle (dash message says Level OK).
The whole experience is superbly raw, the exhaust it's like a shotgun, whips at every up or down shift higher than c. 4000 rpm. Every f***g single vibration comes through the steering wheel and accelerator, I couldn't have asked for anything better, considering I didn't like the 570S as it was too refined to me.
When cold, engine is noticeably edgy, it needs few miles to run smoothly and rich of torque.
Coolant temperature stays on 80 deg when engine not pushed and on the run, at time indicator goes from green to blue (cold) which in a way is weird. When pushed however, engine coolant stays on 95/90 deg, I can only assume cooling system is over engineered for road use, i.e. more suited for track use.
Steering is so precise.
Seating position is sublime, I am glad I went for P1 seats, so comfy but still keep my body firm stuck with the car. I have heard issue of Senna seats it's the ingress...they look better but I am not sure anyone could cope with them even for week end use. Even with P1 though, I need to push the seat all the way back for an easy ingress and then adjust forward for driving.
I love the Alcantara wrapping almost the entire interiors, don't get why Ferrari heavily use leather or fabric, I would never go back to leather.
I haven't tried race mode yet, always in Sport / Sport so far, wanted to keep it for when I finished the break in.
When at idle in Drive, the car doesn't move, it does only if throttle is applied, love this "feature", apparently not on 570S.
Done now c. 750 miles, just checked oil level, it's on the same position as last time at c. 200 miles, one bar above middle (dash message says Level OK).
The whole experience is superbly raw, the exhaust it's like a shotgun, whips at every up or down shift higher than c. 4000 rpm. Every f***g single vibration comes through the steering wheel and accelerator, I couldn't have asked for anything better, considering I didn't like the 570S as it was too refined to me.
When cold, engine is noticeably edgy, it needs few miles to run smoothly and rich of torque.
Coolant temperature stays on 80 deg when engine not pushed and on the run, at time indicator goes from green to blue (cold) which in a way is weird. When pushed however, engine coolant stays on 95/90 deg, I can only assume cooling system is over engineered for road use, i.e. more suited for track use.
Steering is so precise.
Seating position is sublime, I am glad I went for P1 seats, so comfy but still keep my body firm stuck with the car. I have heard issue of Senna seats it's the ingress...they look better but I am not sure anyone could cope with them even for week end use. Even with P1 though, I need to push the seat all the way back for an easy ingress and then adjust forward for driving.
I love the Alcantara wrapping almost the entire interiors, don't get why Ferrari heavily use leather or fabric, I would never go back to leather.
I haven't tried race mode yet, always in Sport / Sport so far, wanted to keep it for when I finished the break in.
When at idle in Drive, the car doesn't move, it does only if throttle is applied, love this "feature", apparently not on 570S.
RBT0 said:
Update on my 600LT.
Done now c. 750 miles, just checked oil level, it's on the same position as last time at c. 200 miles, one bar above middle (dash message says Level OK).
The whole experience is superbly raw, the exhaust it's like a shotgun, whips at every up or down shift higher than c. 4000 rpm. Every f***g single vibration comes through the steering wheel and accelerator, I couldn't have asked for anything better, considering I didn't like the 570S as it was too refined to me.
When cold, engine is noticeably edgy, it needs few miles to run smoothly and rich of torque.
Coolant temperature stays on 80 deg when engine not pushed and on the run, at time indicator goes from green to blue (cold) which in a way is weird. When pushed however, engine coolant stays on 95/90 deg, I can only assume cooling system is over engineered for road use, i.e. more suited for track use.
Steering is so precise.
Seating position is sublime, I am glad I went for P1 seats, so comfy but still keep my body firm stuck with the car. I have heard issue of Senna seats it's the ingress...they look better but I am not sure anyone could cope with them even for week end use. Even with P1 though, I need to push the seat all the way back for an easy ingress and then adjust forward for driving.
I love the Alcantara wrapping almost the entire interiors, don't get why Ferrari heavily use leather or fabric, I would never go back to leather.
I haven't tried race mode yet, always in Sport / Sport so far, wanted to keep it for when I finished the break in.
When at idle in Drive, the car doesn't move, it does only if throttle is applied, love this "feature", apparently not on 570S.
Glad that you are enjoying your car. Done now c. 750 miles, just checked oil level, it's on the same position as last time at c. 200 miles, one bar above middle (dash message says Level OK).
The whole experience is superbly raw, the exhaust it's like a shotgun, whips at every up or down shift higher than c. 4000 rpm. Every f***g single vibration comes through the steering wheel and accelerator, I couldn't have asked for anything better, considering I didn't like the 570S as it was too refined to me.
When cold, engine is noticeably edgy, it needs few miles to run smoothly and rich of torque.
Coolant temperature stays on 80 deg when engine not pushed and on the run, at time indicator goes from green to blue (cold) which in a way is weird. When pushed however, engine coolant stays on 95/90 deg, I can only assume cooling system is over engineered for road use, i.e. more suited for track use.
Steering is so precise.
Seating position is sublime, I am glad I went for P1 seats, so comfy but still keep my body firm stuck with the car. I have heard issue of Senna seats it's the ingress...they look better but I am not sure anyone could cope with them even for week end use. Even with P1 though, I need to push the seat all the way back for an easy ingress and then adjust forward for driving.
I love the Alcantara wrapping almost the entire interiors, don't get why Ferrari heavily use leather or fabric, I would never go back to leather.
I haven't tried race mode yet, always in Sport / Sport so far, wanted to keep it for when I finished the break in.
When at idle in Drive, the car doesn't move, it does only if throttle is applied, love this "feature", apparently not on 570S.
I have done around 1500 miles in mine and it is a superb driving machine.
Two things that I disagree with though. Firstly the noise is only so,so. Yes it is better than the 570S but it is still the weak point of the car imho.
Secondly, the seats. I have driven 650 miles pretty much straight through in both the P1 seat and the Senna seat. Both are superb but surprisingly the Senna seat was a little more comfortable at the end of the journey than the P1. I would definitely agree re: ingress though; that being said I have no problem with using them for weekend/pleasure use. Everybody who has sat in them has found them far more comfortable than they expected and commented on how good they look.
The standout features for me on the car are (in no particular order) : the brakes, the feeling of lack of mass when changing direction quickly, the added sensation of solidity due to the solid engine mounts and how much speed the car can carry through corners.
It really is an epic driving experience !
Yes I have heard Senna seats are super comfy as well. Do you move the seat back to get in as I do?
Yes car is so nimble. My comments on vibrations are also driven by rigid engine mounts, which can't believe they are!
Agree with the rest but exhaust, unless I am missing something? Would you explain a bit more? I find engine and exhaust noise so intoxicating, it's there behind you with burbles even at minimum revs and speed and whips are regular. Engine sound is a bit flat but no surprise imho, well known on McLaren.
I don't think I could cope with a louder exhaust, honestly I think the noise level in the cabin is already borderline, sometimes I try to turn the volume down of the radio in an attempt to reduce overall noise as it can be too much at time. It's ok overall, it means there's nothing to improve. I know many aftermarket oem have already developed louder, crispier exhaust inc. cat but don't know how the cabin is affected. Any chance of flames on yours? Nothing on mine that I could have seen and but I haven't driven it in the night.
Yes car is so nimble. My comments on vibrations are also driven by rigid engine mounts, which can't believe they are!
Agree with the rest but exhaust, unless I am missing something? Would you explain a bit more? I find engine and exhaust noise so intoxicating, it's there behind you with burbles even at minimum revs and speed and whips are regular. Engine sound is a bit flat but no surprise imho, well known on McLaren.
I don't think I could cope with a louder exhaust, honestly I think the noise level in the cabin is already borderline, sometimes I try to turn the volume down of the radio in an attempt to reduce overall noise as it can be too much at time. It's ok overall, it means there's nothing to improve. I know many aftermarket oem have already developed louder, crispier exhaust inc. cat but don't know how the cabin is affected. Any chance of flames on yours? Nothing on mine that I could have seen and but I haven't driven it in the night.
RBT0 said:
Yes I have heard Senna seats are super comfy as well. Do you move the seat back to get in as I do?
Yes car is so nimble. My comments on vibrations are also driven by rigid engine mounts, which can't believe they are!
Agree with the rest but exhaust, unless I am missing something? Would you explain a bit more? I find engine and exhaust noise so intoxicating, it's there behind you with burbles even at minimum revs and speed and whips are regular. Engine sound is a bit flat but no surprise imho, well known on McLaren.
I don't think I could cope with a louder exhaust, honestly I think the noise level in the cabin is already borderline, sometimes I try to turn the volume down of the radio in an attempt to reduce overall noise as it can be too much at time. It's ok overall, it means there's nothing to improve. I know many aftermarket oem have already developed louder, crispier exhaust inc. cat but don't know how the cabin is affected. Any chance of flames on yours? Nothing on mine that I could have seen and but I haven't driven it in the night.
My seat is back pretty much fully for me to drive so there is no need or point in moving it more. With a little care getting in and out it is not too much of a problem.Yes car is so nimble. My comments on vibrations are also driven by rigid engine mounts, which can't believe they are!
Agree with the rest but exhaust, unless I am missing something? Would you explain a bit more? I find engine and exhaust noise so intoxicating, it's there behind you with burbles even at minimum revs and speed and whips are regular. Engine sound is a bit flat but no surprise imho, well known on McLaren.
I don't think I could cope with a louder exhaust, honestly I think the noise level in the cabin is already borderline, sometimes I try to turn the volume down of the radio in an attempt to reduce overall noise as it can be too much at time. It's ok overall, it means there's nothing to improve. I know many aftermarket oem have already developed louder, crispier exhaust inc. cat but don't know how the cabin is affected. Any chance of flames on yours? Nothing on mine that I could have seen and but I haven't driven it in the night.
Regarding engine noise and exhaust as you said yourself McLaren are a bit flat in that department.Part of that is the turbo charging but others make turbo engines sound better imo. The exhaust itself makes some interesting noises on overrun but it will never be able to compete with the better normally aspirated engines available. I do not find it overly loud but I guess that is relative to expectation and previous cars. I do think that the exhaust sounds better from the outside though.
As for flames, I have no interest in trying to make them at a standstill. If they happen whilst driving then great; if not then I will not lose any sleep.
I hope that you continue to enjoy your car.
MAC 720S said:
355spiderguy said:
I would guess it would go for maybe £6-7k + fees.
Going from my own recent experience with "MAC 720S" at the last DVLA auction, I reckon it will go for at least £10K. I was up against a few bidders. The reserve was just a few hundred quid but it escalated V quickly.I've bought several private plates over the years - always sold for more than paid. I bought "WHU 120N" at the DVLA auction last year for my other arfs West Ham themed Nissan Figaro. Eventually paid £4K for it - there was a lot of interest because of the "120N", which reflects their other name as the "IRONs". When they win the premiership in 2050, I will sell it.
The 600 LT is worth a punt to resell if it could be bought for £6-7K. Hmmmm……
WARNING - The following pictures may offend.
Edited by MAC 720S on Sunday 18th August 13:31
Edited by MAC 720S on Sunday 18th August 18:26
Pocty
I’ve done 2500 miles in mine now that included a drive to Spa, the Senna seats are incredible and both the wife and I got out the other end after 3 hrs straight with no adverse effects.
This is my first Mac and I am absolutely blown away with it, which considering the first time I ever drove one was on the way home after collection is quite a relief!
Just got back from Blenheim after a great day at Salon Prive and I can’t think of much that I saw up there I’d change it for currently.
Oh and nothing’s gone wrong in those 2500 miles!
This is my first Mac and I am absolutely blown away with it, which considering the first time I ever drove one was on the way home after collection is quite a relief!
Just got back from Blenheim after a great day at Salon Prive and I can’t think of much that I saw up there I’d change it for currently.
Oh and nothing’s gone wrong in those 2500 miles!
I borrowed a 600lt this week while my 570s Track Pack was in dealers for new pads
No doubt it is a rocket ship, but on road performance wasn’t so different to mine and it also rode far harsher ( was on Trofeos ) The Senna seats were fantastic and as it was a Spider the ability to drop rear glass and listen to the noise was a definite positive .
Where the 600lt will excell is on Track. The aero while looking good is there for the downforce and will give far greater track stability and cornering speed .
In summary for regular tracking the 600lt is the one to go for but for mainly road use I think a 570s Track Pack with the high downforce kit is a better road car
No doubt it is a rocket ship, but on road performance wasn’t so different to mine and it also rode far harsher ( was on Trofeos ) The Senna seats were fantastic and as it was a Spider the ability to drop rear glass and listen to the noise was a definite positive .
Where the 600lt will excell is on Track. The aero while looking good is there for the downforce and will give far greater track stability and cornering speed .
In summary for regular tracking the 600lt is the one to go for but for mainly road use I think a 570s Track Pack with the high downforce kit is a better road car
Joehow said:
Had the fortune of driving a 600LT spider today...jumping straight out of a 997.2 GT3 CS. What a machine! Too fast for the road but my god do I want to try one on track.
Congrats to the owners
Congrats to the owners
Agree it's a bit of waste on roads, however, however, it's the one to go for even on the road if you want a more raw experience a la GT3/RS/Scuderia. Exhaust and engagement from steering wheel due to more straight connection with Engine and suspensions (720S links and arms if I remember well) makes a huge difference.
570S it's a bit too refined. Still stunning bloody fast machine.
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