Discussion
justin220 said:
Interesting. Any more thoughts on how it compared?
Biggest surprise for me was the steering, it was exceptional. Brakes took a bit of getting used to, i had to left foot brake which is fine but I can see that being an issue for people not used to it. It felt like a really really fast Cayman, which is a massive compliment.
Engine didnt sound too bad but not a patch on the Mezger with the Akrapovic...but that is personal opinion.
Gearbox was very good but it is a little bit less crisp in my view than PDK-S but its marginal.
The pure speed and poise though was exceptional, Ive driven 650s' and didnt like them but at £160-180k a 600LT feels like a bargain.
Genuinely surprised and impressed, oh and it looks absolutely stunning.
In terms of rawness though the GT3 Clubbie does feel more race car but I think that is also as its 10 years older so less modern tech.
I drove the 600lt back to back with a 570s on track, driving the 570s first. I have to say that the 570 is awesome on track as a drivers car but as soon as you get into the 600lt it really is a significant step up in terms of feel and connection to the car although not in performance (I really couldn’t tell the difference in acceleration). The 600lt is a raw/pure driving experience and if it were not for the significant cost to Change I’d swap my 570s for one tomorrow.
Rocketreid said:
I borrowed a 600lt this week while my 570s Track Pack was in dealers for new pads
No doubt it is a rocket ship, but on road performance wasn’t so different to mine and it also rode far harsher ( was on Trofeos ) The Senna seats were fantastic and as it was a Spider the ability to drop rear glass and listen to the noise was a definite positive .
Where the 600lt will excell is on Track. The aero while looking good is there for the downforce and will give far greater track stability and cornering speed .
In summary for regular tracking the 600lt is the one to go for but for mainly road use I think a 570s Track Pack with the high downforce kit is a better road car
Interesting comments. Before the 600lt I had a 570S trackpack for just over a year and loved it.No doubt it is a rocket ship, but on road performance wasn’t so different to mine and it also rode far harsher ( was on Trofeos ) The Senna seats were fantastic and as it was a Spider the ability to drop rear glass and listen to the noise was a definite positive .
Where the 600lt will excell is on Track. The aero while looking good is there for the downforce and will give far greater track stability and cornering speed .
In summary for regular tracking the 600lt is the one to go for but for mainly road use I think a 570s Track Pack with the high downforce kit is a better road car
With that being said, even at brisk road speeds the difference between the two cars is noticeable. The brakes are far stronger and confidence giving on the 600 and the car is much more planted on corner entry and exit. Turn in also feels sharper to me. The 570 always felt just a little on tippy toes in comparison to the 600. Whilst some of this is the tyres the whole car feels much more hunkered down all of the time, especially dips and crests.
In the U.K. all of these cars are too fast for the road so it is all a bit overkill. I am not sure where adding a high downforce kit to a trackpack 570 adds any value as a road car, it already corners plenty quick enough and if using it on track I would say the behaviour under heavy braking would be the first thing to try to improve upon.
Just my impressions so far but as a driving machine the 600 is very special imho.
RBT0 said:
Well agree, noise is not comparable to a NA, already discounted that.
Has anyone compared 600LT noise with Pista?
Used to have a 488 GTB and have driven the Pista on track.Has anyone compared 600LT noise with Pista?
For me, the 488GTB is most wishy washy of them all.
600LT has the most theatre and drama with the whip cracks, pops and bangs and I think it sounds great.
488 Pista, sounds way better than the GTB - seems to have unlocked more of that classic Ferrari noise, a lot crisper than the GTB and obviously a bit louder. To me its a close call between 600LT and Pista soundtrack.
lsb said:
Interesting comments. Before the 600lt I had a 570S trackpack for just over a year and loved it.
With that being said, even at brisk road speeds the difference between the two cars is noticeable. The brakes are far stronger and confidence giving on the 600 and the car is much more planted on corner entry and exit. Turn in also feels sharper to me. The 570 always felt just a little on tippy toes in comparison to the 600. Whilst some of this is the tyres the whole car feels much more hunkered down all of the time, especially dips and crests.
In the U.K. all of these cars are too fast for the road so it is all a bit overkill. I am not sure where adding a high downforce kit to a trackpack 570 adds any value as a road car, it already corners plenty quick enough and if using it on track I would say the behaviour under heavy braking would be the first thing to try to improve upon.
Just my impressions so far but as a driving machine the 600 is very special imho.
Yes the 570s is a little floaty but the ride quality on less than ideal roads was smoother than the 600ltWith that being said, even at brisk road speeds the difference between the two cars is noticeable. The brakes are far stronger and confidence giving on the 600 and the car is much more planted on corner entry and exit. Turn in also feels sharper to me. The 570 always felt just a little on tippy toes in comparison to the 600. Whilst some of this is the tyres the whole car feels much more hunkered down all of the time, especially dips and crests.
In the U.K. all of these cars are too fast for the road so it is all a bit overkill. I am not sure where adding a high downforce kit to a trackpack 570 adds any value as a road car, it already corners plenty quick enough and if using it on track I would say the behaviour under heavy braking would be the first thing to try to improve upon.
Just my impressions so far but as a driving machine the 600 is very special imho.
No criticism of the 600lt but it feels raw in comparison to the 570S as it should be, but I also have an Exige Cup 430 which is very raw on the road and I often like the more relaxed nature of the Mac for road driving
My thoughts although not my wallet are that the high downforce kit will give greater track stability but also not compromise the smooth ride quality of the 570s on the road + who doesn’t love a big wing !!
Rocketreid said:
lsb said:
Interesting comments. Before the 600lt I had a 570S trackpack for just over a year and loved it.
With that being said, even at brisk road speeds the difference between the two cars is noticeable. The brakes are far stronger and confidence giving on the 600 and the car is much more planted on corner entry and exit. Turn in also feels sharper to me. The 570 always felt just a little on tippy toes in comparison to the 600. Whilst some of this is the tyres the whole car feels much more hunkered down all of the time, especially dips and crests.
In the U.K. all of these cars are too fast for the road so it is all a bit overkill. I am not sure where adding a high downforce kit to a trackpack 570 adds any value as a road car, it already corners plenty quick enough and if using it on track I would say the behaviour under heavy braking would be the first thing to try to improve upon.
Just my impressions so far but as a driving machine the 600 is very special imho.
Yes the 570s is a little floaty but the ride quality on less than ideal roads was smoother than the 600ltWith that being said, even at brisk road speeds the difference between the two cars is noticeable. The brakes are far stronger and confidence giving on the 600 and the car is much more planted on corner entry and exit. Turn in also feels sharper to me. The 570 always felt just a little on tippy toes in comparison to the 600. Whilst some of this is the tyres the whole car feels much more hunkered down all of the time, especially dips and crests.
In the U.K. all of these cars are too fast for the road so it is all a bit overkill. I am not sure where adding a high downforce kit to a trackpack 570 adds any value as a road car, it already corners plenty quick enough and if using it on track I would say the behaviour under heavy braking would be the first thing to try to improve upon.
Just my impressions so far but as a driving machine the 600 is very special imho.
No criticism of the 600lt but it feels raw in comparison to the 570S as it should be, but I also have an Exige Cup 430 which is very raw on the road and I often like the more relaxed nature of the Mac for road driving
My thoughts although not my wallet are that the high downforce kit will give greater track stability but also not compromise the smooth ride quality of the 570s on the road + who doesn’t love a big wing !!
Love a big wing me !!
Rocketreid said:
Yes the 570s is a little floaty but the ride quality on less than ideal roads was smoother than the 600lt
No criticism of the 600lt but it feels raw in comparison to the 570S as it should be, but I also have an Exige Cup 430 which is very raw on the road and I often like the more relaxed nature of the Mac for road driving
My thoughts although not my wallet are that the high downforce kit will give greater track stability but also not compromise the smooth ride quality of the 570s on the road + who doesn’t love a big wing !!
Back a few years I had a Lotus 2 Eleven that I used on track for about 3 years. It was light and had pretty supple suspension and it rode brilliantly on track and road. I am sure the Exige 430 is fantastic. That would be my track weapon of choice if I were doing a lot of track days.No criticism of the 600lt but it feels raw in comparison to the 570S as it should be, but I also have an Exige Cup 430 which is very raw on the road and I often like the more relaxed nature of the Mac for road driving
My thoughts although not my wallet are that the high downforce kit will give greater track stability but also not compromise the smooth ride quality of the 570s on the road + who doesn’t love a big wing !!
One of the things that I like about the 600 is that it combines the light feeling and poise of a Lotus with the rawness and solidity of an RS Porsche.
I hear you regarding the wallet part of the downforce kit !!
lsb said:
Back a few years I had a Lotus 2 Eleven that I used on track for about 3 years. It was light and had pretty supple suspension and it rode brilliantly on track and road. I am sure the Exige 430 is fantastic. That would be my track weapon of choice if I were doing a lot of track days.
One of the things that I like about the 600 is that it combines the light feeling and poise of a Lotus with the rawness and solidity of an RS Porsche.
I hear you regarding the wallet part of the downforce kit !!
One of the things that I like about the 600 is that it combines the light feeling and poise of a Lotus with the rawness and solidity of an RS Porsche.
I hear you regarding the wallet part of the downforce kit !!
Big Wing 👍🏽
rickyneil said:
RBT0 said:
So tested this weekend and I can put in 1st from neutral pulling the right paddle.
It doesn’t work the opposite way if I pull the left paddle it doesn’t go to N?
It should do but you need to hold for a second or two, it is that way on my 650It doesn’t work the opposite way if I pull the left paddle it doesn’t go to N?
Tried Track mode (P) for the first time after break in.
My thoughts:
- Gearshifts are smoother, no kick.
- Less crack, pops, whips or am I wrong?
- Xmas tree gearshift lights didn’t show up, do I need to push higher than 7.5k rpm?
- Love the overall look of the instrument cluster, everything needed is displayed!
- Not sure but accelerator map felt identical to sport
Overall I feel that on the road Sport is even more fun due to kick on gearshifts.
Does anybody know what are the changes between Sport and Track, am I missing anything?
Any other thoughts?
My thoughts:
- Gearshifts are smoother, no kick.
- Less crack, pops, whips or am I wrong?
- Xmas tree gearshift lights didn’t show up, do I need to push higher than 7.5k rpm?
- Love the overall look of the instrument cluster, everything needed is displayed!
- Not sure but accelerator map felt identical to sport
Overall I feel that on the road Sport is even more fun due to kick on gearshifts.
Does anybody know what are the changes between Sport and Track, am I missing anything?
Any other thoughts?
RBT0 said:
Hi Chris H,
You’re welcome to use this topic to share your experience on 600 LT, did you mention an issue with gear changes in Normal? I always use it in Manual.
Send me a pm with you mobile, happy to create a group of 600LT on Whatsapp.
Is anyone else fed up with the Normal auto gear changes programmed to change up as soon as poss., it’s in 5th at 25 and 7th at 35mph, it’s ridiculous. Same on the overrun won’t change down until 35 mph. McLaren admit it and say it’s to meet Euro 6 certification but it affects drive ability to the point if being unsafe. It won’t accelerate at 25 in 5th or 35 in 7th if you need to in a speed limit. It can’t be doing the engine any good, it’s at tickover.You’re welcome to use this topic to share your experience on 600 LT, did you mention an issue with gear changes in Normal? I always use it in Manual.
Send me a pm with you mobile, happy to create a group of 600LT on Whatsapp.
Yes, I know I can use Manual but that’s not the point. I’ve reported this via dealer service department to Customer Support, no action after 3 months.
It needs reprogramming but I doubt they will as it affects Certification.
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