Put order in for 600LT
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isaldiri said:
DeltaOne said:
With the 600LT everyone should assume they’ll make more cars than they can easily sell, assume there will then be a spider which does the same, and make the decision as to whether to buy or not.
^ this.Huh. Couple of cancellations on here. I have an allocation for the Spider variant of the 600LT, whenever that is due. But pushing to try and get a coupe now too.
I'll probably stripper spec the thing with Carbon Pack 2 and... Well that's really it. I don't want anything else. Perhaps the luxury pack. Wonder what the list will be on that. Hopefully below £215k. I have the 720S that I'll be eventually swapping out for the 600LT. May seem like a step back but I think the rawness of an LT product might just be worth it yet. We shall see!
I'll probably stripper spec the thing with Carbon Pack 2 and... Well that's really it. I don't want anything else. Perhaps the luxury pack. Wonder what the list will be on that. Hopefully below £215k. I have the 720S that I'll be eventually swapping out for the 600LT. May seem like a step back but I think the rawness of an LT product might just be worth it yet. We shall see!
RamboLambo said:
isaldiri said:
DeltaOne said:
With the 600LT everyone should assume they’ll make more cars than they can easily sell, assume there will then be a spider which does the same, and make the decision as to whether to buy or not.
^ this.
CyCy said:
Huh. Couple of cancellations on here. I have an allocation for the Spider variant of the 600LT, whenever that is due. But pushing to try and get a coupe now too.
I'll probably stripper spec the thing with Carbon Pack 2 and... Well that's really it. I don't want anything else. Perhaps the luxury pack. Wonder what the list will be on that. Hopefully below £215k. I have the 720S that I'll be eventually swapping out for the 600LT. May seem like a step back but I think the rawness of an LT product might just be worth it yet. We shall see!
Even having just bought the 720S Cycy you will be hard pushed to get a 600LT coupe allocation now unless :I'll probably stripper spec the thing with Carbon Pack 2 and... Well that's really it. I don't want anything else. Perhaps the luxury pack. Wonder what the list will be on that. Hopefully below £215k. I have the 720S that I'll be eventually swapping out for the 600LT. May seem like a step back but I think the rawness of an LT product might just be worth it yet. We shall see!
1. There are a lot more cancellations
2. McLaren build a shed load more of them
Your local dealer currently has an allocation of 6. Of which 5 will be taken by their Senna customers and someone on here from Bath is already claiming the last allocated car ( and I think he/she will be disappointed )
As regards a spider allocation that's wishful thinking at this stage as the demand is even greater than the coupe and dealers have no idea when or how many will be coming,
If I was a betting man ( and I'm not ) I can see McLaren increasing production due to demand which then makes the whole proposition less appealing as an UNLIMITED and high volume regular production car.
If that's not important to you fairplay it will be a cracking drivers car based on previous LT's but go into it with your eyes wide open on production volumes.
I would also advise you to drive a 570S to be accustomed to the sport series as they are markedly different to the higher super series.
I ran a 570S alongside my 650S Spider and when one had to go it was an easy decision to offload the 570S
Some may prefer it but remember you usually get what you pay for and there is a difference between a supercar and a sports car.
Good luck, if you are a big baller you may have a chance, afterall I pulled my 2 orders and was first on their list over 2 years ago.
I had hoped the LT derivative would always be preserved for finite LIMITED number production and once again McLaren are likely to shoot themselves in the foot by building too many and not taking a lesson from Ferrari over limited edition cars and building less than demand to enhance the brand and residuals.
They are looking at short term profits and not long term brand building.
For now it seems the 675LT will be the ONLY McLaren limited edition LT derivative with only a 1,000 worldwide ( ok and a few HS and carbon edition at stupid money ). Future classic ? How much are the equivalent 458 Speciale Apertas these days ?
Edited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 24th July 08:46
Edited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 24th July 08:47
RamboLambo said:
CyCy said:
Huh. Couple of cancellations on here. I have an allocation for the Spider variant of the 600LT, whenever that is due. But pushing to try and get a coupe now too.
I'll probably stripper spec the thing with Carbon Pack 2 and... Well that's really it. I don't want anything else. Perhaps the luxury pack. Wonder what the list will be on that. Hopefully below £215k. I have the 720S that I'll be eventually swapping out for the 600LT. May seem like a step back but I think the rawness of an LT product might just be worth it yet. We shall see!
Even having just bought the 720S Cycy you will be hard pushed to get a 600LT coupe allocation now unless :I'll probably stripper spec the thing with Carbon Pack 2 and... Well that's really it. I don't want anything else. Perhaps the luxury pack. Wonder what the list will be on that. Hopefully below £215k. I have the 720S that I'll be eventually swapping out for the 600LT. May seem like a step back but I think the rawness of an LT product might just be worth it yet. We shall see!
1. There are a lot more cancellations
2. McLaren build a shed load more of them
Your local dealer currently has an allocation of 6. Of which 5 will be taken by their Senna customers and someone on here from Bath is already claiming the last allocated car ( and I think he/she will be disappointed )
As regards a spider allocation that's wishful thinking at this stage as the demand is even greater than the coupe and dealers have no idea when or how many will be coming,
If I was a betting man ( and I'm not ) I can see McLaren increasing production due to demand which then makes the whole proposition less appealing as an UNLIMITED and high volume regular production car.
If that's not important to you fairplay it will be a cracking drivers car based on previous LT's but go into it with your eyes wide open on production volumes.
I would also advise you to drive a 570S to be accustomed to the sport series as they are markedly different to the higher super series.
I ran a 570S alongside my 650S Spider and when one had to go it was an easy decision to offload the 570S
Some may prefer it but remember you usually get what you pay for and there is a difference between a supercar and a sports car.
Good luck, if you are a big baller you may have a chance, afterall I pulled my 2 orders and was first on their list over 2 years ago.
I had hoped the LT derivative would always be preserved for finite LIMITED number production and once again McLaren are likely to shoot themselves in the foot by building too many and not taking a lesson from Ferrari over limited edition cars and building less than demand to enhance the brand and residuals.
They are looking at short term profits and not long term brand building.
For now it seems the 675LT will be the ONLY McLaren limited edition LT derivative with only a 1,000 worldwide ( ok and a few HS and carbon edition at stupid money ). Future classic ? How much are the equivalent 458 Speciale Apertas these days ?
Edited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 24th July 08:46
Edited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 24th July 08:47
In my opinion, a Speciale Aperta (500ish?) or TDF (800ish?) is not really comparable to 675 LT given the vastly bigger number of customers Ferrari has - if McLaren did that today like for like, they'd probably have to build a limited edition with a build run of 100 cars and then you would not be getting one I suspect (like that 3-seater car they have planned). You certainly would not be able to get a Speciale Aperta by buying 2 normal production model cars over the last few years.
I suspect you will buy a 675 now (a car I love) and then for the next year we will constantly read about how important it is that a car is numbers LIMITED, has a carbon tub (again) and is track focused or some such reasoning .... let the games begin
MDL111 said:
How is a 600 LT different from a Speciale or Pista - both are time not numbers limited cars?
"Limited edition" cars seem to fare financially better among people who can't really afford long term depreciation as they may be easier to resell before the end of the production run.It's a bit comical though, as there has been a few cases in the past with some other brands where regular cars were built in fewer quantity than their "LT/RS/GT#" equivalent, which suggests that rarity may not necessarily be related to market value.
It may happen with the 600LT if original buyers remain reasonable with the option list. Not sure I'd want to spend as much on a heavily-optioned 600LT as on a fresh 720S.
MDL111 said:
How is a 600 LT different from a Speciale or Pista - both are time not numbers limited cars?
Demand/supply is going to be different. However many Pistas Ferrari make, there's going to be a lot more people wanting them than 600LTs. Mclaren do not have good history of matching demand to supply but mostly have just churned out cars whether with a limited edition or not (675s aren't really limited after all with a total of well over 1000 of them in different forms). also the Pista is iirc not being priced at a very large premium over the 488. The 600 is a fair clip over a 570, especially once options are counted in.MDL111 said:
How is a 600 LT different from a Speciale or Pista - both are time not numbers limited cars?
In my opinion, a Speciale Aperta (500ish?) or TDF (800ish?) is not really comparable to 675 LT given the vastly bigger number of customers Ferrari has - if McLaren did that today like for like, they'd probably have to build a limited edition with a build run of 100 cars and then you would not be getting one I suspect (like that 3-seater car they have planned). You certainly would not be able to get a Speciale Aperta by buying 2 normal production model cars over the last few years.
I suspect you will buy a 675 now (a car I love) and then for the next year we will constantly read about how important it is that a car is numbers LIMITED, has a carbon tub (again) and is track focused or some such reasoning .... let the games begin
A limited edition McLaren track focussed SUPERcar with a carbon tub sounds awesooooome.In my opinion, a Speciale Aperta (500ish?) or TDF (800ish?) is not really comparable to 675 LT given the vastly bigger number of customers Ferrari has - if McLaren did that today like for like, they'd probably have to build a limited edition with a build run of 100 cars and then you would not be getting one I suspect (like that 3-seater car they have planned). You certainly would not be able to get a Speciale Aperta by buying 2 normal production model cars over the last few years.
I suspect you will buy a 675 now (a car I love) and then for the next year we will constantly read about how important it is that a car is numbers LIMITED, has a carbon tub (again) and is track focused or some such reasoning .... let the games begin
Sell your house, sell your kids, sell your organs you have got to have one of these :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msu23raltng
RamboLambo said:
MDL111 said:
How is a 600 LT different from a Speciale or Pista - both are time not numbers limited cars?
In my opinion, a Speciale Aperta (500ish?) or TDF (800ish?) is not really comparable to 675 LT given the vastly bigger number of customers Ferrari has - if McLaren did that today like for like, they'd probably have to build a limited edition with a build run of 100 cars and then you would not be getting one I suspect (like that 3-seater car they have planned). You certainly would not be able to get a Speciale Aperta by buying 2 normal production model cars over the last few years.
I suspect you will buy a 675 now (a car I love) and then for the next year we will constantly read about how important it is that a car is numbers LIMITED, has a carbon tub (again) and is track focused or some such reasoning .... let the games begin
A limited edition McLaren track focussed SUPERcar with a carbon tub sounds awesooooome.In my opinion, a Speciale Aperta (500ish?) or TDF (800ish?) is not really comparable to 675 LT given the vastly bigger number of customers Ferrari has - if McLaren did that today like for like, they'd probably have to build a limited edition with a build run of 100 cars and then you would not be getting one I suspect (like that 3-seater car they have planned). You certainly would not be able to get a Speciale Aperta by buying 2 normal production model cars over the last few years.
I suspect you will buy a 675 now (a car I love) and then for the next year we will constantly read about how important it is that a car is numbers LIMITED, has a carbon tub (again) and is track focused or some such reasoning .... let the games begin
Sell your house, sell your kids, sell your organs you have got to have one of these :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msu23raltng
as said, I do like the 675 a lot (Coupe for me please) - low weight, looks good, fast. It is the only one I would buy atm (P1/F1 are so far out of reach that I do not even think about those)
MDL111 said:
argh, I clicked on that - one of those annoying bling lifestyle youtubers
as said, I do like the 675 a lot (Coupe for me please) - low weight, looks good, fast. It is the only one I would buy atm (P1/F1 are so far out of reach that I do not even think about those)
TBH Mr JWW is one of the better you tubers and not the immature get rich quick guys that just churn out annoying video's about their latest cars, wraps and exhausts. His channel has got better over time and his content is pretty good and well put together but that particular early video has stood out as one of his best purely for his GENUINE enthusiasm and passion for the 675LT.as said, I do like the 675 a lot (Coupe for me please) - low weight, looks good, fast. It is the only one I would buy atm (P1/F1 are so far out of reach that I do not even think about those)
Also to be fair to the guy he put his money where his mouth was and came back and bought a used 675 LT coupe for over List and even thought of buying it back 12 months later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP2Rhg-aTZ8
I've not driven a P1 and couldn't justify buying one but the reviews all state the 675 is close to the P1 without the electrics and is more fun and involving.
Time will tell.
More importantly specced up SPORT series 600LT's are in SUPER series territory whether that be 675LT or 720S.
If and when a 600LT spider appears its going to be £250k +
with No F1 active aero and no hydraulic suspension. Hope the car does well and sells out and even fetches a premium but I think it would have had a better chance if LIMITED to 500 units like the 675LTEdited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 24th July 20:38
Sarnie said:
RBT0 said:
After having read horrible stories about oxidated paint on 570S my interest on this car is almost gone. 
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Sarnie said:
RBT0 said:
After having read horrible stories about oxidated paint on 570S my interest on this car is almost gone.
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