Speedtail Images
Discussion
Beefmeister said:
TB993tt said:
How is it "not that fast" , 250mph and 0-300kph in 12.8s, what are you comparing it to 
Chiron, Koenigsegg to name but two. They both achieve a higher top speed with normal mirrors and body shapes. My point being they can do this with normal design by adding huge amounts of horsepower into the mix. With the aero this thing has I’m surprised it will only do 250. As I said, relatively speaking.
MDL111 said:
I suspect it will be faster - i thought the 250 was just the minimum target?
Not that it is particularly relevant anyway imo
I like how it looks, shame it does not have a V12 though
Agree - the F1 managed 240 mph on 630 bhp, so given this looks rather more slippery and has 1000 bhp ...Not that it is particularly relevant anyway imo
I like how it looks, shame it does not have a V12 though
Pity it doesn't have a V12 though.
4321go said:
Back from the pub, and I can’t be arsed to Read three pages of replies so far. Sorry!
Back in the day (and just as much now) I’d have happily sacrificed soft and squidgy bits to own an F1.
This looks f
king awful (and I don’t care how fast it is.......)
Thank fBack in the day (and just as much now) I’d have happily sacrificed soft and squidgy bits to own an F1.
This looks f
king awful (and I don’t care how fast it is.......)k for that, someone on the same page as me 
Would you seriously wake up every day and think I must run down to the garage and check out my Speedtail.
The funny thing is anyone buying one will be doing it with their loose change, so it's not even an exercise in making money.
I can only see it in the same light as people who pay millions for crap paintings that a five year old could have done,its the "MUST" have it to be in the club scenario,look how much money I have
Well done to Mclaren for realising that its odd cars not great cars that can prise ridiculous amounts of money from billionaires.
Just imagine trying to drive the thing and navigate the many odd road situations that can be thrown at you.
Here we go, this picture is a bargain and at the same price, just 1.7 million, it would look good behind the Speedtail in the garage.
Edited by Juno on Sunday 28th October 10:13
Or you could go the whole hog and do 84 million on this
Edited by Juno on Sunday 28th October 10:39
Why they didn’t take a shape like this and develop it into a new modern F1 3 seater is beyond me. It would have been recognisable as a modern day Mac F1and build the brand on past heritage. Take a look at Porsche, they don’t try to reinvent the wheel they just improve the wheel. IMO thats what DNA and brand heritage is about and not just flying off at a tangent!
Edited by Juno on Sunday 28th October 11:14
Initially it looked odd to me, then I watched a few YouTube clips of it. I sort of like it now.
But it's all subjective, so it doesn't really matter if some like it and some dont.
If you have the money to buy it, you can probably buy a few other cars that look nicer.
I do think we are too obsessed with top speed however. To do 250 or more you need a slippery shape, pretty much all slippery shapes look like sucked sweets.
We are also too obsessed with how fast the latest super - hyper - something'er car will go round the ring. But to do that you end up with mad aero, no ground clearance, suspension that won't work on real roads, gearboxes you can only live with during a race, etc.
The problem is big numbers make it easy to sell cars, get the internet buzzing and create an image. It's pretty hard to excite the public and sell things to them if all you can say is it's nice to drive in the real world on real roads.
The best 'sports car' probably isn't going to be the fastest or most expensive. It's going to be the one you like driving the most.
But it's all subjective, so it doesn't really matter if some like it and some dont.
If you have the money to buy it, you can probably buy a few other cars that look nicer.
I do think we are too obsessed with top speed however. To do 250 or more you need a slippery shape, pretty much all slippery shapes look like sucked sweets.
We are also too obsessed with how fast the latest super - hyper - something'er car will go round the ring. But to do that you end up with mad aero, no ground clearance, suspension that won't work on real roads, gearboxes you can only live with during a race, etc.
The problem is big numbers make it easy to sell cars, get the internet buzzing and create an image. It's pretty hard to excite the public and sell things to them if all you can say is it's nice to drive in the real world on real roads.
The best 'sports car' probably isn't going to be the fastest or most expensive. It's going to be the one you like driving the most.
Juno said:
Why they didn’t take a shape like this and develop it into a new modern F1 3 seater is beyond me. It would have been recognisable as a modern day Mac F1and build the brand on past heritage. Take a look at Porsche, they don’t try to reinvent the wheel they just improve the wheel. IMO thats what DNA and brand heritage is about and not just flying off at a tangent!
My issue is the polar opposite, I think it shares too much DNA with the regular road cars to be seen as sufficiently 'special'. The front end looks like the generic 570 / 650 front end, an evolution of the old design rather than the newer 720s styling. The carbon tub and central section is a modified version of the latest mono-cell, and the rear is nice clever aero just as shown on the sketches. The engine spec is just an evolution of the old P1 formula, turbo V8 hybrid, yawn.Brand heritage is fine when you have a heritage to build on, McLaren are still young enough to create their own fresh heritage and this new Speedtail could have been ground-breaking and a stand-alone astounding new benchmark. As it is, because they have launched it before most Senna buyers have even got their car, history will see it as the fast-version of the Ultimate Series alongside the track-version Senna.
especially after reading the details in EVO today - yes!!!Gassing Station | McLaren | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff