650s CoupΓ©

650s CoupΓ©

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GT4RS

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

141 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Hi

Would anyone happen to know the owner of this 650s, I believe it may be on SOR and I have a question regarding the specification / original order.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...


breadvan

1,369 posts

112 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Blimey, that looks lovely.

2k miles and what, half price?

GT4RS

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

141 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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breadvan said:
Blimey, that looks lovely.

2k miles and what, half price?

It does look a nice car, I would like to get a better understanding on why it has the unusual wing vents.

Have these been retro fitted?

Not sure on the list price as I think these got discounted when new, from ready other threads these have taken a hammering in price lately so it could be half price I guess.

It’s also a Coupé, I think the cab carries more of a following and is priced higher.

Sarnie

6,154 posts

153 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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GT4RS said:

It does look a nice car, I would like to get a better understanding on why it has the unusual wing vents.

Have these been retro fitted?

Not sure on the list price as I think these got discounted when new, from ready other threads these have taken a hammering in price lately so it could be half price I guess.

It’s also a Coupé, I think the cab carries more of a following and is priced higher.
Only circa 40-50 Coupes in the UK........apparently.........Spider came straight after the Coupe and almost no one ordered Coupe after that......

GT4RS

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

141 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Sarnie said:
GT4RS said:

It does look a nice car, I would like to get a better understanding on why it has the unusual wing vents.

Have these been retro fitted?

Not sure on the list price as I think these got discounted when new, from ready other threads these have taken a hammering in price lately so it could be half price I guess.

It’s also a Coupé, I think the cab carries more of a following and is priced higher.
Only circa 40-50 Coupes in the UK........apparently.........Spider came straight after the Coupe and almost no one ordered Coupe after that......
Is a coupe a harder sell than a cab then?

Sarnie

6,154 posts

153 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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GT4RS said:
Is a coupe a harder sell than a cab then?
Not to someone who wants a Coupe!

Charlie360

350 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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I noticed that car too and it's now 2K cheaper as well. I had been looking at 720s, but given the way the market is going everywhere I wonder if this is a more sensible option - the coupes have a nicer roof line in my view.

GT4RS

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1,791 posts

141 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Charlie360 said:
I noticed that car too and it's now 2K cheaper as well. I had been looking at 720s, but given the way the market is going everywhere I wonder if this is a more sensible option - the coupes have a nicer roof line in my view.
Am I correct in thinking it’s been up for sale for a long time?

Charlie360

350 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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No, I think it has only just come on the market recently. There is a similar priced, aged and mileage coupe (in Orange) which GVE have had for a long time and the price has progressively followed the market down from £160k + to £124,900 now. I'm probably not in a position to buy currently, but have to wonder whether a 2018 720s with similar mileage really is worth £70k+ more than these relatively rare 650 coupes, especially in the long term? Is the 720 really that much better/faster?

br d

7,084 posts

170 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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720 is certainly faster but the 650 is plenty fast enough. I'd take a 650 Spider and 70k change over a 720 coupe.

Charlie360

350 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Hi Brad, thank you for the input, having owned both, I guess you've voted with your feet and gone from 650 to 570 via 720, so are well placed to answer that - is the 720 really noticeably faster on the road (I know Mclaren figures show 0-60 in 2.9 vs 3.0 or something similar) but do you really notice 0.1 of a second? and from my perspective, it's the more intangible differences, plus the reliability question - the depreciation is a known (or rather we can make our own judgement, based upon the vehicle's values on the market) Sorry for the rambling question, but I'm trying to judge if it's worthwhile and am therefore interested from an ownership perspective, which I cannot judge from a 5 minute test drive of either car.

Sarnie

6,154 posts

153 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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720s is blisteringly fast, almost too fast!?

But how fast do you want/can you go on the UK roads?

I have a 570s.........I've never once thought that it's not fast enough!

breadvan

1,369 posts

112 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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It looks like the price has gone up overnight with this 650?

WCZ

6,832 posts

138 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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the 720s is noticeably faster and there's a childish appeal about knowing you have literally one of the fastest cars on the planet imo

isaldiri

4,767 posts

112 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Sarnie said:
Only circa 40-50 Coupes in the UK........apparently.........Spider came straight after the Coupe and almost no one ordered Coupe after that......
They were made available at the same time.

Charlie360 said:
is the 720 really noticeably faster on the road (I know Mclaren figures show 0-60 in 2.9 vs 3.0 or something similar) but do you really notice 0.1 of a second?
Yes it really is noticeably faster on the road. Whether or not it's worth due to that difference in speed is subjective but there is absolutely no doubt the 720 is blisteringly quick to the point of being hard to believe.

GT4RS

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

141 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Clearly that dealer has seen this thread and know people are talking about the car so has decided to take his chance and increase his asking price. If so it’s not good business IMO.

I’ve kept an eye on the coupe which VVS have had up for sale since the summer at £117k, it hasn’t been dropped in price yet but assume a drop on this car may be coming or it may get taken off sale as it doesn’t look good being for sale for so long.

There’s a few Mclaren dealer spiders priced around £125k now, IMO it would make sense to try and secure a deal on a siper which has been Mclaren inspected and you also get the benefit of the 12 month warranty.

I’m contemplating another car and a 650s may fit the bill compared to other cars available.

Do people think these will follow the 12c pricing? I don’t really want to take a £40k hit over 2 to 3 years on a car I will do around 2000 miles a year in at most.

Would anyone know what the trade bid would be on the black car in this advert?

IMI A

6,779 posts

145 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Unbelievable VFM but if a dealer did that wouldn't even bother picking phone up to that sort of outfit.

breadvan

1,369 posts

112 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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IMI A said:
Unbelievable VFM but if a dealer did that wouldn't even bother picking phone up to that sort of outfit.
+1.

GT4RS

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

141 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Car was originally priced £3k less

Never you mind

1,396 posts

56 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Nice looking car and I ain't no fan of 650s. Bit shocking of the dealer to up the price though.