McLarens & Reliability
Discussion
Turbo cab said:
Why would you assume that the fact you've had two reliable cars and awesome dealer service I'm disappointed? I'm happy you've had a great experience so far.
The OP has asked a question and I have responded with my own personal ownership woes as I have in the past when the subject has cropped up.
This is exactly the type of behaviour I was referencing albeit slightly more passive aggressive in its approach.
Three recent posters on this thread have all had two McLarens each...….zero issues across six cars...….that makes your woes, the exception not the rule.The OP has asked a question and I have responded with my own personal ownership woes as I have in the past when the subject has cropped up.
This is exactly the type of behaviour I was referencing albeit slightly more passive aggressive in its approach.
McLaren are playing catch up on all the other brands....the cars are there.....they just need to catch up the rest of the infrastructure...…….issues may take longer than ideal to resolve...….but they are getting there.....
You have been passionate in your denigration of the brand due to your experiences...…..are you bullying us?? No...…...but neither are we when providing counter responses so that potential owners don't read your posts and think it's symptomatic of all McLarens because it's not......as per the other peoples posts on this thread and others...……..
Sarnie said:
Turbo cab said:
Why would you assume that the fact you've had two reliable cars and awesome dealer service I'm disappointed? I'm happy you've had a great experience so far.
The OP has asked a question and I have responded with my own personal ownership woes as I have in the past when the subject has cropped up.
This is exactly the type of behaviour I was referencing albeit slightly more passive aggressive in its approach.
Three recent posters on this thread have all had two McLarens each...….zero issues across six cars...….that makes your woes, the exception not the rule.The OP has asked a question and I have responded with my own personal ownership woes as I have in the past when the subject has cropped up.
This is exactly the type of behaviour I was referencing albeit slightly more passive aggressive in its approach.
McLaren are playing catch up on all the other brands....the cars are there.....they just need to catch up the rest of the infrastructure...…….issues may take longer than ideal to resolve...….but they are getting there.....
You have been passionate in your denigration of the brand due to your experiences...…..are you bullying us?? No...…...but neither are we when providing counter responses so that potential owners don't read your posts and think it's symptomatic of all McLarens because it's not......as per the other peoples posts on this thread and others...……..
"My Mclarens never had a single problem".. "well my three have"... "well three other posters with two cars haven't" - It's all very boring.
My issue is and as you have proved so very well - owners that have had issues get heckled, flamed and bullied for voicing it.
Well I thought it was a thread on McLaren reliability, as per the original op saying how he had good experiences of several that had passed through his hands.
Some people then chime in with there experiences good or bad, you have had some bad experiences fair enough.
It’s an open forum for people to express their opinions, sometimes we all don’t agree on what’s said or posted.
Some people then chime in with there experiences good or bad, you have had some bad experiences fair enough.
It’s an open forum for people to express their opinions, sometimes we all don’t agree on what’s said or posted.
tyrrell said:
Well I thought it was a thread on McLaren reliability, as per the original op saying how he had good experiences of several that had passed through his hands.
Some people then chime in with there experiences good or bad, you have had some bad experiences fair enough.
It’s an open forum for people to express their opinions, sometimes we all don’t agree on what’s said or posted.
And there it is right there!Some people then chime in with there experiences good or bad, you have had some bad experiences fair enough.
It’s an open forum for people to express their opinions, sometimes we all don’t agree on what’s said or posted.
Thank you Tyrrell.
I think I posted in a different thread, so will mention it here too.
New 720S bought last summer.
Zero reliability issues, electrical issues, warning lights or other glitches. Yes zero.
Even the connection to iPhone has been rock solid, dropping Bluetooth once in all that time. Surprisingly a LOT more reliable than in my BMW where its a lottery whether the iPhone will connect or not on a day.
New 720S bought last summer.
Zero reliability issues, electrical issues, warning lights or other glitches. Yes zero.
Even the connection to iPhone has been rock solid, dropping Bluetooth once in all that time. Surprisingly a LOT more reliable than in my BMW where its a lottery whether the iPhone will connect or not on a day.
I believe the point the naysayers on this thread are making is about how poorly McLaren respond when there is an issue.
I'm with the recent posters above in that I haven't had any issues. Would be good to also hear from people who have - and the or dealer/McLaren have responded well to fix it?
I'm with the recent posters above in that I haven't had any issues. Would be good to also hear from people who have - and the or dealer/McLaren have responded well to fix it?
12pack said:
I believe the point the naysayers on this thread are making is about how poorly McLaren respond when there is an issue.
I'm with the recent posters above in that I haven't had any issues. Would be good to also hear from people who have - and the or dealer/McLaren have responded well to fix it?
Yes it does rather sound as if there is a variable response in terms of resolving problems - which in the first instance lies with the dealers. In my case McBristol have been very helpful around my issue which was a lack of bluetooth phone mic, which turned out to be a damaged wiring loom that needed replacing and there was a delay in sourcing the replacement which took 3 weeks - not that I was particularly bothered at this time of year, but it did seem a little odd that they couldn't get one, given it's required for all 720s and probably the same for all current McLarens, so surely there must have been some at the factory, but otherwise I'm happy at the moment, bring on the summer and I can put some miles on and see how reliable it really is.I'm with the recent posters above in that I haven't had any issues. Would be good to also hear from people who have - and the or dealer/McLaren have responded well to fix it?
tyrrell said:
It’s an open forum for people to express their opinions, sometimes we all don’t agree on what’s said or posted.
Reading this stuff as a non-McLaren owner, it’s not about “agreeing” or “disagreeing”.You sense from the people who’s cars haven’t had problems, that they don’t really believe the people who say that they have.
Which is peculiar.
Why would anyone who has bought a McLaren, make up having had a poor experience??
It all comes across as a bit religious - “believers” see those experiences as blasphemous.
I had a 12C for 14k miles and 2.5 years. It was not without its problems and it did cause me some anxiety. However it was a great car and I would have another. I don't see what the problem is if you pay for the warranty. I bought the warranty and everything was sorted, car was always picked up and bought back. It probably spent 6-8 weeks a year off the road but I got replacement cars when I needed them.
I know from the owners group that some have issues and some do not, its luck of the draw and its no use those without problems and those with problems arguing either way that the other is wrong, that's life. Every BMW M car I have had has been an unmitigated disaster and money pit but I seem to be in the minority.
If you have the warranty and have a good relationship with your dealer all will be fine. There is no other car that will offer the performance, drama & excitement for the price and that price 'may' include some time off the road but its all covered in the warranty.
I know from the owners group that some have issues and some do not, its luck of the draw and its no use those without problems and those with problems arguing either way that the other is wrong, that's life. Every BMW M car I have had has been an unmitigated disaster and money pit but I seem to be in the minority.
If you have the warranty and have a good relationship with your dealer all will be fine. There is no other car that will offer the performance, drama & excitement for the price and that price 'may' include some time off the road but its all covered in the warranty.
Ferruccio said:
Reading this stuff as a non-McLaren owner, it’s not about “agreeing” or “disagreeing”.
You sense from the people who’s cars haven’t had problems, that they don’t really believe the people who say that they have.
Which is peculiar.
Why would anyone who has bought a McLaren, make up having had a poor experience??
It all comes across as a bit religious - “believers” see those experiences as blasphemous.
I certainly don't see it that way, as a McLaren owner I'm certainly aware that other owners have had problems, but my frustration is that there are far too many people who appear to take a certain pleasure belittling the brand. I get very frustrated when reading the responses to any new McLaren launch where the standard response is always 'they're totally unreliable and will spend at least 13 months at the dealership every year' blah blah. Yes, they're not perfect, but there are plenty of owners who do get decent service from their dealers, and plenty of owners who don't have any reliability issues.You sense from the people who’s cars haven’t had problems, that they don’t really believe the people who say that they have.
Which is peculiar.
Why would anyone who has bought a McLaren, make up having had a poor experience??
It all comes across as a bit religious - “believers” see those experiences as blasphemous.
Owners aren't denying there are problems, they are simply trying to provide some balance against those claiming the brand is rotten to the core.
The Surveyor said:
I certainly don't see it that way, as a McLaren owner I'm certainly aware that other owners have had problems, but my frustration is that there are far too many people who appear to take a certain pleasure belittling the brand. I get very frustrated when reading the responses to any new McLaren launch where the standard response is always 'they're totally unreliable and will spend at least 13 months at the dealership every year' blah blah. Yes, they're not perfect, but there are plenty of owners who do get decent service from their dealers, and plenty of owners who don't have any reliability issues.
Owners aren't denying there are problems, they are simply trying to provide some balance against those claiming the brand is rotten to the core.
+ 1Owners aren't denying there are problems, they are simply trying to provide some balance against those claiming the brand is rotten to the core.
The Surveyor said:
Owners aren't denying there are problems, they are simply trying to provide some balance against those claiming the brand is rotten to the core.
Exactly. But, I also get the sense that non-owners are disingenuously using hearsay to bash the new player making real progress,or to justify sticking with what they have. 
tyrrell said:
The Surveyor said:
I certainly don't see it that way, as a McLaren owner I'm certainly aware that other owners have had problems, but my frustration is that there are far too many people who appear to take a certain pleasure belittling the brand. I get very frustrated when reading the responses to any new McLaren launch where the standard response is always 'they're totally unreliable and will spend at least 13 months at the dealership every year' blah blah. Yes, they're not perfect, but there are plenty of owners who do get decent service from their dealers, and plenty of owners who don't have any reliability issues.
Owners aren't denying there are problems, they are simply trying to provide some balance against those claiming the brand is rotten to the core.
+ 1Owners aren't denying there are problems, they are simply trying to provide some balance against those claiming the brand is rotten to the core.
No Supercars are perfect nor the dealers that you have to deal with.
As I am currently in the market for a used 570s I have visited a couple of dealers and remain impressed.
Popped into Porsche Silverstone today and was not at all impressed with the service and even less impressed with their pair of 2017 911 GT3s at £152,500. I know they are fantastic track cars but with only 493bhp and having to pay a £20k premium over the original new price it seems a 2017 570s for £120k a bargain
As I am currently in the market for a used 570s I have visited a couple of dealers and remain impressed.
Popped into Porsche Silverstone today and was not at all impressed with the service and even less impressed with their pair of 2017 911 GT3s at £152,500. I know they are fantastic track cars but with only 493bhp and having to pay a £20k premium over the original new price it seems a 2017 570s for £120k a bargain
Bispal said:
I had a 12C for 14k miles and 2.5 years. It was not without its problems and it did cause me some anxiety. However it was a great car and I would have another. I don't see what the problem is if you pay for the warranty. I bought the warranty and everything was sorted, car was always picked up and bought back. It probably spent 6-8 weeks a year off the road but I got replacement cars when I needed them.
I know from the owners group that some have issues and some do not, its luck of the draw and its no use those without problems and those with problems arguing either way that the other is wrong, that's life. Every BMW M car I have had has been an unmitigated disaster and money pit but I seem to be in the minority.
If you have the warranty and have a good relationship with your dealer all will be fine. There is no other car that will offer the performance, drama & excitement for the price and that price 'may' include some time off the road but its all covered in the warranty.
Sounds good, but how will things develop, if the warranty can´t get extended any longer? The 12 c is already 6-7 years old and the max warranty is 12 years. No concerns about keeping it long time?I know from the owners group that some have issues and some do not, its luck of the draw and its no use those without problems and those with problems arguing either way that the other is wrong, that's life. Every BMW M car I have had has been an unmitigated disaster and money pit but I seem to be in the minority.
If you have the warranty and have a good relationship with your dealer all will be fine. There is no other car that will offer the performance, drama & excitement for the price and that price 'may' include some time off the road but its all covered in the warranty.
bigdog-k9 said:
Sounds good, but how will things develop, if the warranty can´t get extended any longer? The 12 c is already 6-7 years old and the max warranty is 12 years. No concerns about keeping it long time?
There are McLaren specific indy specialists offering warranties on McLarens already, perfectly viable alternatives to the factory warranty. There will be even more options in 5 years time. As there are more cars falling outside the factory warranty scheme, the indy market will develop IMHO.How do you see things developing ?
Friend bought one 4 weeks ago (540)
It’s spent 3 weeks at McClaren Hatfield, who to be fair, have tried their hardest. They just don’t know how to fix their cars.
Engine light back on 10 minutes after leaving the dealer, went out for 200 miles, now back on again. I wouldn’t expect that from Dacia, let alone a premium (sic) brand.
It’s spent 3 weeks at McClaren Hatfield, who to be fair, have tried their hardest. They just don’t know how to fix their cars.
Engine light back on 10 minutes after leaving the dealer, went out for 200 miles, now back on again. I wouldn’t expect that from Dacia, let alone a premium (sic) brand.
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