McLaren 765LT

[WilliamWaiver]

Are McLaren still planning on building 1530 of these now the market has gone soft ?
I don't think the brand has the demand for that sort of number which was proven by the circa 2,000 600LTs that they built.

The 500/500 675LTs sold out in 2 weeks so that seems to be the number for rarity and exclusivity for the brand.

Surely they can learn from the mistakes and the 600LT.
Product is great but way to market is all wrong IMHO. They keep shafting their loyal customers and will never grow the brand like that. They need new customers at dame time as renewing existing customer base.

1530 cars specced between £330 - £400k seems optimistic to me even without the downturn

[anonymous-user]

WilliamWaiver said:

Are McLaren still planning on building 1530 of these now the market has gone soft ?
I don't think the brand has the demand for that sort of number which was proven by the circa 2,000 600LTs that they built.

The 500/500 675LTs sold out in 2 weeks so that seems to be the number for rarity and exclusivity for the brand.

Surely they can learn from the mistakes and the 600LT.
Product is great but way to market is all wrong IMHO. They keep shafting their loyal customers and will never grow the brand like that. They need new customers at dame time as renewing existing customer base.

1530 cars specced between £330 - £400k seems optimistic to me even without the downturn

Since the release of the 675LT, demand for McLaren in the US has increased. Would be interesting to see the split between RHD and LHD.

[LotusJas]

WilliamWaiver said:

Are McLaren still planning on building 1530 of these now the market has gone soft ?
I don't think the brand has the demand for that sort of number which was proven by the circa 2,000 600LTs that they built.

Yes they are, but they have reduced UK (RHD) cars, and are exporting more of them.

btw there were nearly 3,000 600LT cars. I've forgotten the exact number. It was unlimited.

[Turbo cab]

I've had several dealers offering me a placement for one of these, Oddly enough including one who i have a relationship with but haven't even purchased from.

I politely declined telling the last one id rather wait and see how the discounts pan out like the 600LT

[WilliamWaiver]

LotusJas said:

Yes they are, but they have reduced UK (RHD) cars, and are exporting more of them.

btw there were nearly 3,000 600LT cars. I've forgotten the exact number. It was unlimited.

3,000 600LTs really.
Thats a huge amount.
I know it wasn't limited like 675 but that's way too many and explains them being over stocked, being given away and used car prices plummeting.

When I last enquired at mac dealer they were trying to make out it was a lot less and I was very suspicious and dubious at time.
3,000 confirms my fears.
I thought 2,000 was far too many.
They really do shoot themselves in the foot as at £140k its a cracking car and the price has only been driven down by the volume.

I think people will be very sceptical with 765LT.
Who will want to pay list and face instant massive depreciation.
From what I can make out it Seems 675LT is the McLaren to buy today if you want to retain its value

[anonymous-user]

LotusJas said:

Yes they are, but they have reduced UK (RHD) cars, and are exporting more of them.

btw there were nearly 3,000 600LT cars. I've forgotten the exact number. It was unlimited.

Are you sure? I thought there was no more than 1800, 10% of which was sold in the UK.

[LotusJas]

MAC 720S said:

Are you sure? I thought there was no more than 1800, 10% of which was sold in the UK.

I've forgotten the exact figures now, but from memory there were nearly 1500 coupe alone.

Anyway, 765LT is limited in numbers to 765 coupes, plus likely the same for spiders.

[Rocketreid]

WilliamWaiver said:

3,000 600LTs really.
Thats a huge amount.
I know it wasn't limited like 675 but that's way too many and explains them being over stocked, being given away and used car prices plummeting.

When I last enquired at mac dealer they were trying to make out it was a lot less and I was very suspicious and dubious at time.
3,000 confirms my fears.
I thought 2,000 was far too many.
They really do shoot themselves in the foot as at £140k its a cracking car and the price has only been driven down by the volume.

I think people will be very sceptical with 765LT.
Who will want to pay list and face instant massive depreciation.
From what I can make out it Seems 675LT is the McLaren to buy today if you want to retain its value

I don’t concur, the best cars by a country mile are 720s, faster, smoother and more modern than a 675LT.

A 2 yr newer 720s, well specced would be in region of £60,000 less than a 675LT.

I don’t believe The 765LT will help 675 residuals

[RBT0]

It depends what you’re after.

LT is more engaging and emotional even at lower speed.

[Rocketreid]

RBT0 said:

It depends what you’re after.

LT is more engaging and emotional even at lower speed.

Well you could always buy an Exige Cup430 with
the money you save by buying a 720s. You can’t get much more engaging or emotional than a Lotus

[RBT0]

Rocketreid said:

RBT0 said:

It depends what you’re after.

LT is more engaging and emotional even at lower speed.

Well you could always buy an Exige Cup430 with
the money you save by buying a 720s. You can’t get much more engaging or emotional than a Lotus

No way, a league below wrt speed.

You know McLarens are Lotus on steroids.....

[WilliamWaiver]

Rocketreid said:

I don’t concur, the best cars by a country mile are 720s, faster, smoother and more modern than a 675LT.

A 2 yr newer 720s, well specced would be in region of £60,000 less than a 675LT.

I don’t believe The 765LT will help 675 residuals

I specced up a 765LT coupe and it was conservatively £330k, that makes an equivalent spider £360k

Like to see how McLaren take that to market - if its anything like 600LT it will be a blood bath. Also 1530 units is 53% more than a 675LT
On rarity alone 675LT will hold its value very well ala early low production limited edition ferraris IMHO. I see it being like a Challenge stradale for McLaren

[LordOfTheManor]

I'm thinking the 765lt is the way to go. there would be no better car on the road.

i'm thinking white with senna seats

[av185]

WilliamWaiver said:

3,000 600LTs really.
Thats a huge amount.
I know it wasn't limited like 675 but that's way too many and explains them being over stocked, being given away and used car prices plummeting.

When I last enquired at mac dealer they were trying to make out it was a lot less and I was very suspicious and dubious at time.
3,000 confirms my fears.
I thought 2,000 was far too many.
They really do shoot themselves in the foot as at £140k its a cracking car and the price has only been driven down by the volume.

I think people will be very sceptical with 765LT.
Who will want to pay list and face instant massive depreciation.
From what I can make out it Seems 675LT is the McLaren to buy today if you want to retain its value

296 UK 600LTs.

[WilliamWaiver]

av185 said:

296 UK 600LTs.

Well thats closer to the 350 UK RHD the dealer told me and I didn't believe him.
Uk usually accounts for 10% of overall production so maybe the 350 was truthful.

Still a lot of cars though cf sub 100 675 LTs but then again sports series volumes are a lot higher than super series.
Not sure I would want such a mass produced car as I like my exclusivity to much

[av185]

WilliamWaiver said:

av185 said:

296 UK 600LTs.

Well thats closer to the 350 UK RHD the dealer told me and I didn't believe him.
Uk usually accounts for 10% of overall production so maybe the 350 was truthful.

Still a lot of cars though cf sub 100 675 LTs but then again sports series volumes are a lot higher than super series.
Not sure I would want such a mass produced car as I like my exclusivity to much

Depends what you read into exclusivity.

I would much prefer a less exclusive car that is more of a focused drivers car than a more exclusive car that is compromised from a drivers perspective.

[WilliamWaiver]

av185 said:

Depends what you read into exclusivity.

I would much prefer a less exclusive car that is more of a focused drivers car than a more exclusive car that is compromised from a drivers perspective.

Yeah I Agree and I'm talking 675LT so its scores in abundance on both accounts

[D4rez]

There weren’t anything like that many 600LTs the other number is much closer. For reference:

Pista just over 2000
GT2RS 3100
GT3RS (.2 gen) 4200
Performante 2450

[WilliamWaiver]

D4rez said:

There weren’t anything like that many 600LTs the other number is much closer. For reference:

Pista just over 2000
GT2RS 3100
GT3RS (.2 gen) 4200
Performante 2450

Not as many as 3,000 ?

So are you saying 2,500 600LTS worldwide with 350 being in the UK.
Also is the UK split likely to be spider based so 250 spiders and 100 coupe ?

[av185]

Wordwide numbers are largely irrelevant to the UK market.

E.g. only 140 991.2 GT2 RS in the UK.