Living with a McLaren 650s Spider as an (almost) daily

Living with a McLaren 650s Spider as an (almost) daily

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davek_964

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8,807 posts

175 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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PCC makes more sense - next time will put my glasses on!

This morning's highlight is.... I stole my car. I had a text from Tracker this morning saying that the battery in the Tracker fob was getting low. Looked up the instructions and changed the battery.
However, the instructions I found said that after the changing the battery I should switch it on - hold the button, the LED would flash and when it stopped flashing I should release the button.
My LED came on constantly when I held the button, but after about 6s went out. Job done I thought.

What I didn't check is that the LED was now flashing. What I'd actually done was switch it off. Lesson learned, and for anybody else who needs to do it - 4s seems to be the right time, and release the button before the LED goes out. And make sure it's flashing!

Apart from that, it was a decent drive although not the long drive I had planned. No problems with audio, so think that's solved - and no error messages.

I am slightly concerned that I've had the car since Saturday and just filled up for the 3rd time - and think I've only done 300-400 miles. Guess it's got a small tank - although I haven't been letting it get too low.

justin220

5,337 posts

204 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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What mpg are you seeing, calculated and indicated?

Not sure how the fuel tanks compare to the sport series but I usually get 250-300 miles per tank

davek_964

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8,807 posts

175 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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justin220 said:
What mpg are you seeing, calculated and indicated?

Not sure how the fuel tanks compare to the sport series but I usually get 250-300 miles per tank
When I filled up today, it was indicating 13.4 I think - and I did zero it last time I filled up. But there has been a fair amount of seeing how fast it goes some collection, and that's reducing now.

I'd be happy with 250 miles from a tank although the amount of petrol it took today makes me doubt that. I had about 1/4 tank left on the fuel gauge, and it only took ~£65 of V Power.

I didn't pay attention to how many miles I'd actually done.

MDL111

6,913 posts

177 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Are dampers covered by warranty or a consumable on McLarens?

12pack

1,539 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Well, its a 72 litre fuel tank - how many miles you get will depend how you drive it. Doubt you'll get 200 miles if you drive it like it was meant to be driven...laugh

davek_964

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8,807 posts

175 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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12pack said:
Well, its a 72 litre fuel tank - how many miles you get will depend how you drive it. Doubt you'll get 200 miles if you drive it like it was meant to be driven...laugh
I think I'm doing it right then wink

McLaren say the fault is most likely due to low suspension fluid - monitor it, and if it does it again, take it in.

justin220

5,337 posts

204 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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13.4 haha!

I need to try harder!

12pack

1,539 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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It is nice, though, to be able to hit >30 mpg on a longer drive. Don't have that option on the V12 Vantage.

355spiderguy

1,476 posts

171 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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MDL111 said:
Are dampers covered by warranty or a consumable on McLarens?
Yes...covered.

My Nov '15 650 spider with extended warranty goes in for a replacement shock shortly which is covered by the warranty...which is handy as its just over £3k job parts and labour.


Also have a very, very small oil leak that they couldn't detect its location...the sort of size of leak that outside warranty you would probably just keep an eye on...but they are also going to remove air brake, decklid, determine leak and sort at whatever cost for parts and labour.

Makes the £3700 cost for extending the warranty an absolute no-brainer.

355spiderguy

1,476 posts

171 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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12pack said:
It is nice, though, to be able to hit >30 mpg on a longer drive. Don't have that option on the V12 Vantage.
Yup...got 31mpg going through to Glasgow for the service the other week thanks to the average speed cameras...not bad for a supercar...thumbup

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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MDL111 said:
IMI A said:
MDL111 said:
Not a McLaren, but stuff that lights up one or more warning lights and then disappears once I turn off the car/disconnect the battery happens on a regular basis on the FF - I figure that is one of the joys of buying a relatively modern - i.e. lots of sensors - non-German car smile
I have 2 warning lights that come on and stay on regularly since I bought the car 4 years and 60k km ago - hasn't self-destructed so far ...
Yep annoying. I think a lot of it has to do with how much you drive them. Battery always needs to be kept charged in my view. Those guys that use their cars like they stole em have very little problems from what I see.
the way I treat it is:
"yellow warning light" - ignore
"red warning light" - stop and call assist to get the car (only happened once, gearbox had packed it in)
same operating procedure as our disco 4 i see! we had gearbox tcu go on it too. yellow don't worry about it. red oh shyte not again! I think id be more precious about a F car or m car

RBT0

1,476 posts

119 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Blimey! Best I cand do with my 600LT so far is 27.

jamieo

180 posts

212 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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davek_964 said:
When I filled up today, it was indicating 13.4 I think - and I did zero it last time I filled up. But there has been a fair amount of seeing how fast it goes some collection, and that's reducing now.

I'd be happy with 250 miles from a tank although the amount of petrol it took today makes me doubt that. I had about 1/4 tank left on the fuel gauge, and it only took ~£65 of V Power.

I didn't pay attention to how many miles I'd actually done.
You’ll be looking at 250 miles on a full tank with envious eyes...

But likely a big grin 😉

davek_964

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8,807 posts

175 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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I have an OBD reader - I assume it doesn't have to be specific to McLaren?

MDL111

6,913 posts

177 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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355spiderguy said:
MDL111 said:
Are dampers covered by warranty or a consumable on McLarens?
Yes...covered.

My Nov '15 650 spider with extended warranty goes in for a replacement shock shortly which is covered by the warranty...which is handy as its just over £3k job parts and labour.


Also have a very, very small oil leak that they couldn't detect its location...the sort of size of leak that outside warranty you would probably just keep an eye on...but they are also going to remove air brake, decklid, determine leak and sort at whatever cost for parts and labour.

Makes the £3700 cost for extending the warranty an absolute no-brainer.
yup agree, that is great. I think my warranty covers hardly anything, so to McL one seems like good value for money. Don't understand why people keep complaining about the price (having said that, so far the car has not needed any work apart from the gearbox, only a matter of time though I suspect)

Desert Dragon

1,445 posts

84 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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This glitchy stuff would drive me nuts. If you were doing 150mph on the autobahn and you lost your power steering through a turn its could be curtains. Really don't know how this can be happening on a 720s let alone a 650s. So off putting. Embarrassing in a £265k car.

355spiderguy

1,476 posts

171 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Desert Dragon said:
This glitchy stuff would drive me nuts. If you were doing 150mph on the autobahn and you lost your power steering through a turn its could be curtains. Really don't know how this can be happening on a 720s let alone a 650s. So off putting. Embarrassing in a £265k car.
Only 'glitch' i have had on my mac was a temperamental airbrake and requiring reset...no issues with iris, sat nav, dab power steering etc..all have performed as they should and sound from upgraded meriden is outstanding.



Desert Dragon

1,445 posts

84 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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355spiderguy said:
Desert Dragon said:
This glitchy stuff would drive me nuts. If you were doing 150mph on the autobahn and you lost your power steering through a turn its could be curtains. Really don't know how this can be happening on a 720s let alone a 650s. So off putting. Embarrassing in a £265k car.
Only 'glitch' i have had on my mac was a temperamental airbrake and requiring reset...no issues with iris, sat nav, dab power steering etc..all have performed as they should and sound from upgraded meriden is outstanding.
Well I'm being nice. PAS going wrong more than a glitch. Its dangerous in certain situations at speed. Could be worse I suppose. At least no one has mentioned brake failure!

davek_964

Original Poster:

8,807 posts

175 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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Desert Dragon said:
355spiderguy said:
Desert Dragon said:
This glitchy stuff would drive me nuts. If you were doing 150mph on the autobahn and you lost your power steering through a turn its could be curtains. Really don't know how this can be happening on a 720s let alone a 650s. So off putting. Embarrassing in a £265k car.
Only 'glitch' i have had on my mac was a temperamental airbrake and requiring reset...no issues with iris, sat nav, dab power steering etc..all have performed as they should and sound from upgraded meriden is outstanding.
Well I'm being nice. PAS going wrong more than a glitch. Its dangerous in certain situations at speed. Could be worse I suppose. At least no one has mentioned brake failure!
It's a car. Things break.

A few years back, I overtook somebody in my reliable Cayenne - on a short straight before a tight bend. When I got to the bend, I had no PAS and the car did not want to go around the bend. AUX belt had snapped and that drove the power steering pump.

I certainly don't feel that I'm driving a fragile death trap in the 650.

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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davek_964 said:
Desert Dragon said:
355spiderguy said:
Desert Dragon said:
This glitchy stuff would drive me nuts. If you were doing 150mph on the autobahn and you lost your power steering through a turn its could be curtains. Really don't know how this can be happening on a 720s let alone a 650s. So off putting. Embarrassing in a £265k car.
Only 'glitch' i have had on my mac was a temperamental airbrake and requiring reset...no issues with iris, sat nav, dab power steering etc..all have performed as they should and sound from upgraded meriden is outstanding.
Well I'm being nice. PAS going wrong more than a glitch. Its dangerous in certain situations at speed. Could be worse I suppose. At least no one has mentioned brake failure!
It's a car. Things break.

A few years back, I overtook somebody in my reliable Cayenne - on a short straight before a tight bend. When I got to the bend, I had no PAS and the car did not want to go around the bend. AUX belt had snapped and that drove the power steering pump.

I certainly don't feel that I'm driving a fragile death trap in the 650.
You’d be potentially going far quicker in a 650s. Yes cars all break but let’s be honest Mcl do not have a bad reliability reputation for nothing.

Let’s hope the inauspicious start to your ownership experience improves and the car becomes trouble free.

It looks amazing!