720S - what to look for?
Discussion
PS2018 said:
Thanks Mac720s, interesting reading.
Just a bit scary when you reference friends/owners who have been unwittingly driving their cars on low oil because thy are blind to this data.
dry sump engines don’t mean the car wouldn’t/couldn’t have an oil pressure display surely?
Your car looks great by the way! Nice spec.
I can't find any reference to oil pressure anywhere in Owners Manual. Maybe it has an oil pressure warning?Just a bit scary when you reference friends/owners who have been unwittingly driving their cars on low oil because thy are blind to this data.
dry sump engines don’t mean the car wouldn’t/couldn’t have an oil pressure display surely?
Your car looks great by the way! Nice spec.
Thanks for the compliments.
A better image
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 27th September 20:16
Thanks to everyone for the comments. A couple of things there that I wasn't aware of and would have missed, but don't seem to be any showstoppers (I can't imagine that the satnav is worse than the embarrassment they fit to the FFRR!). I'll keep eyes open and see what comes along.
As for depreciation, a good friend once pointed out to me that the ultimate depreciation you experience is with your life. Try putting a monetary value against that depreciation curve and you'll find that you can justify any car you can find the cash to run...
As for depreciation, a good friend once pointed out to me that the ultimate depreciation you experience is with your life. Try putting a monetary value against that depreciation curve and you'll find that you can justify any car you can find the cash to run...
Gunso said:
Hmmm.
What other functions are less than practical?
If your scale of priorities puts the programmability of the sat nav so high I would question wether the car is right for you rather than the car be right for its intended use. If the new GT has the same sat nav your criticism would be easier to accept.
From my perspective it just one of the areas where the car fails to meet an admittedly high benchmark. In my view important controls should be easily operable at night in less than perfect conditions. Putting these as a sub menu in the central touch screen fails to meet this basic criterion. If you want to do 500 miles cross country in Europe some of it at night on minor D and L roads in France and Germany that you are not that familiar with a good sat nav can help. For such a trip the McLaren sat nav is next to useless and for a tech company like McLaren personally I think that is poor. That said there are many things about the 720S which are class leading but by the same token there are some flaws in terms of ergonomics which let it down. What other functions are less than practical?
If your scale of priorities puts the programmability of the sat nav so high I would question wether the car is right for you rather than the car be right for its intended use. If the new GT has the same sat nav your criticism would be easier to accept.
For the avoidance of doubt the sat nav in the CGT is also poor. But as it is of its time and in other respects the controls of the car are beyond reproach, I forgive it that minor shortcoming. And yes I use the Garmin in the CGT.
Edited by lowndes on Saturday 28th September 07:31
lowndes said:
From my perspective it just one of the areas where the car fails to meet an admittedly high benchmark. In my view important controls should be easily operable at night in less than perfect conditions. Putting these as a sub menu in the central touch screen fails to meet this basic criterion. If you want to do 500 miles cross country in Europe some of it at night on minor D and L roads in France and Germany that you are not that familiar with a good sat nav can help. For such a trip the McLaren sat nav is next to useless and for a tech company like McLaren personally I think that is poor. That said there are many things about the 720S which are class leading but by the same token there are some flaws in terms of ergonomics which let it down.
OK fair enough. Appreciate the response.I've not done a long night time drive on unfamiliar roads in the 720S.
davek_964 said:
Is McLaren unique in this though? In my experience, all cars of this type (Ferrari, Aston, Porsche etc) have media / sat nav solutions that are years behind the same age Toyota or Vauxhall. It just seems to be a thing with these kind of cars.
Indeed it’s all relative. There’s is driving tech - and there is ADAS/infotainment. I have a Tesla daily - and as far as I am concerned all other Sat Nav/ infotainment/Homelink/cruise control systems are utter crap. I just get Siri to send the destination to the prewarmed car as I walk up to it, it opens the garage and gate, and shuts them on my way out, while playing my playlist depending on the day of the week.Need a sat Nav in the Mac to get me to the track/event (where I would never venture to with a Tesla, of course) and the one in the 650s is horribly cramped, so I usually have Waze running on the phone.
Edited by 12pack on Saturday 28th September 21:33
lowndes said:
From my perspective it just one of the areas where the car fails to meet an admittedly high benchmark. In my view important controls should be easily operable at night in less than perfect conditions. Putting these as a sub menu in the central touch screen fails to meet this basic criterion. If you want to do 500 miles cross country in Europe some of it at night on minor D and L roads in France and Germany that you are not that familiar with a good sat nav can help. For such a trip the McLaren sat nav is next to useless and for a tech company like McLaren personally I think that is poor. That said there are many things about the 720S which are class leading but by the same token there are some flaws in terms of ergonomics which let it down.
For the avoidance of doubt the sat nav in the CGT is also poor. But as it is of its time and in other respects the controls of the car are beyond reproach, I forgive it that minor shortcoming. And yes I use the Garmin in the CGT.
I’ve not got a dog in the fight but I wouldn’t describe McLarren as a tech company. Tesla, yes. For the avoidance of doubt the sat nav in the CGT is also poor. But as it is of its time and in other respects the controls of the car are beyond reproach, I forgive it that minor shortcoming. And yes I use the Garmin in the CGT.
Edited by lowndes on Saturday 28th September 07:31
Don’t get me wrong I trust you 100% that their Nav is poor and overpriced, but it simply isn’t going to be a major factor in purchase decision and like Ferrari but unlike Porsche and Lamborghini and at an absolute push Audi, they don’t have a parent company to justify developing cutting edge in car tech as they can’t amortise it across many other ranges
I’m not target market for these vehicles but I can’t see it being a deal breaker at this time
I had a loaner last month- a 19 plate C200 Premium. The tech in that was bloody impressive
In car navs are a waste of time tbh even the better systems like the one in my Q7 are way behind Waze in terms of traffic routing ,speed camera/ police warnings and other helpful stuff like stopped cars on motorways however the virtual cockpit itself is very slick. My Vantage infotainment is really hopeless crap nav but again I’ve never even tried to use it given Waze is so far ahead ...the nav etc was never a factor in my decision making process for that car.
Mcdriveruk said:
I'm in the same boat, seen a couple of cars I like but the prices vary greatly. Cant decide if I want a newer 570 or an older 720
There's not an insignificant price gap between an older 720S and a newer 570. You can get into a brand new 570 for the price of the cheapest used 720S. If your budget stretches to £170K, there’s some nice 720S’s to choose from. If I had my time again, I would be seriously considering this > https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
There’s no science behind my next statement, just a gut feeling, but the lower priced 720S’s seem to be bottoming out. I’ve been watching for a few months now. There’s also less for sale. There was 56 advertised 2 months ago, but 42 today. That’s quite a % difference.
I noticed it too just yesterday when I was perusing different marques and models on Autotrader.
720S prices have seen a small rebound, and there are far fewer for sale. Surprising this side of winter, as I'd expect this in spring.
Perhaps the now throttled UK supply of new 720S is now having an effect. Great news if it is
720S prices have seen a small rebound, and there are far fewer for sale. Surprising this side of winter, as I'd expect this in spring.
Perhaps the now throttled UK supply of new 720S is now having an effect. Great news if it is
Watch it race an Aventador S 6.5 V12 here. Silly but fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJGxc0x7hzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJGxc0x7hzA
I had hoped prices would continue to drop as I’m very interested but as mentioned above, they seem to have stalled. Most of the sub £160k cars have disappeared. I’m watching daily.
The purple one above does look good with decent spec but wasn’t there a purple one doing the rounds that had many reported problems?
MAC 720S and Turbo Cab, your cars both look superb...a bit different to the norm.
The purple one above does look good with decent spec but wasn’t there a purple one doing the rounds that had many reported problems?
MAC 720S and Turbo Cab, your cars both look superb...a bit different to the norm.
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