Carbon ceramic vs steel brakes

[Flashardos]

I've been looking at 570GTs, and would like to know whether there is any strong argument to go for a car with CCBs, or are steel brakes perfectly adequate for road use?

[davek_964]

I'm sure steel are fine.

My brakes are awesome (CCB) but given the cost of I need to replace them I'd have preferred steel but that wasn't an option

[Rocketreid]

For mainly road use Ceramics are less maintenance, less brake dust and may well last for years.

But if you intend doing any vigorous tracking definitely go for steel as the CCB’s melt on hard use

[anonymous-user]

Flashardos said:

I've been looking at 570GTs, and would like to know whether there is any strong argument to go for a car with CCBs, or are steel brakes perfectly adequate for road use?

For normal road use, the CCB's should last the life of the car. Your wheels will remain cleaner due to no brake dust. Apart from that, I doubt there is much difference unless you are doing some serious illegal driving.

[Flashardos]

Rocketreid said:

But if you intend doing any vigorous tracking definitely go for steel as the CCB’s melt on hard use

Really? I always thought that carbon brakes were developed for competition/track use.

[Rocketreid]

Flashardos said:

Really? I always thought that carbon brakes were developed for competition/track use.

McLarens aren’t really Carbon, more like a Carbon laminate

[MOD500]

Had steels on 540 and ceramics on 570, think steel more than adequate for road driving and need to be going v quick to feel the increased stopping power of ceramics on the road. The steels had more pedal feel and worked better when starting from cold, vs ceramic that required good bit of heat in them to work properly

[justin220]

Steels are more than adequate on the road. I really like mine and a lot of feel through the pedal

[EK993]

CCB’s are very binary - on / off for road use and especially at low speeds, first car I have had with them and took some getting used to especially when maneuvering out of my garage or car parking spaces. But... 6 months in I now love them with the added bonus of no brake dust.

[davek_964]

I've not found mine binary at all. I think they're probably unnecessary for the road - although it does keep the wheels fairly clean - but from a use / feel point of view I've not found them worse than "normal" brakes.

[12pack]

Rocketreid said:

McLarens aren’t really Carbon, more like a Carbon laminate

Well, aren't they all? Regardless, on my normal track outings have worked them a lot harder than those on my Aston V12V and they seem to be holding up at least as well. Carrying an extra 30 mph into corners does give them a workout - but no brake fade during the session.

I do recognize they're not going to last given my track outings and will be expensive to replace - but to me, well worth it.

[650spider]

12pack said:

Well, aren't they all? Regardless, on my normal track outings have worked them a lot harder than those on my Aston V12V and they seem to be holding up at least as well. Carrying an extra 30 mph into corners does give them a workout - but no brake fade during the session.

I do recognize they're not going to last given my track outings and will be expensive to replace - but to me, well worth it.

You wanna keep an eye on them...when i dropped my mac in for a service they had another 650 spider in for work and all 4 discs were shot and were rough as hell which indicates they require to be replaced...the technicians said around £10k for pads and discs front, not much less for the rears...

i didn't confirm this with the service dept though...i thought it would be the price for all 4...but upon thinking about it, it was most probably a near enough figure.

But as mentioned before, normal driving they can last for a very long time...hard track use kills them after a short period.

[Rocketreid]

12pack said:

Well, aren't they all? Regardless, on my normal track outings have worked them a lot harder than those on my Aston V12V and they seem to be holding up at least as well. Carrying an extra 30 mph into corners does give them a workout - but no brake fade during the session.

I do recognize they're not going to last given my track outings and will be expensive to replace - but to me, well worth it.

Don’t believe the latest Porsche’s are !!

[isaldiri]

Rocketreid said:

Don’t believe the latest Porsche’s are !!

The Porsche ceramic is similar to the usual McLaren one but has an added coating applied on top of the disc. Porsche's ceramics are by sgl, McLaren/Ferrari and most of the rest use brembo (who own sgl).