600LT v 720S

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Streetbeat

859 posts

75 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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From the chat on here, Lux packs always seem at the lower end of the market and have to agree with the comments above, that interior is very marmite and i wouldnt say Saros is the most flattering colour on the 720s, apologies to the other Saros owner posting above.

£6k fees, warranty and retrim you are going to be up to £150 ish anyway.

However, if you like Saros and tan its a bargain, i wonder what the reserve was.

matrignano

4,344 posts

209 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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I may be an outlier but I see a lot of (performance pack) cars are specced with black/grey interior, not even contrast stitching of some sort, which I find boring as hell

Gibbo205

3,527 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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matrignano said:
I may be an outlier but I see a lot of (performance pack) cars are specced with black/grey interior, not even contrast stitching of some sort, which I find boring as hell
Was something I noticed looked at 600LT half the cars I viewed with black interiors and black stitching, very dull.

All been well I've found the 600LT Spider for me, which house coloured stitching throughout. smile

RSbandit

2,590 posts

131 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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Funnily enough I think Saros blue is one of the best 720s colours really shows off the creases and flow on the body work.

Streetbeat

859 posts

75 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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matrignano said:
I may be an outlier but I see a lot of (performance pack) cars are specced with black/grey interior, not even contrast stitching of some sort, which I find boring as hell
100% agree with you, its good to see some colour accents, but full tan or as another example after a browse through the for sale pages, full red, not for me.

964Cup

1,407 posts

236 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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Streetbeat said:
100% agree with you, its good to see some colour accents, but full tan or as another example after a browse through the for sale pages, full red, not for me.
Having just spent 11 days and a little over 3,000 miles in mine, I must say I was glad to have a light interior just as a more inviting place to sit. Black alcantara certainly looks racier, but I find the whole coal-scuttle effect rather wears you down in the end. I'm not myself quite such a fan of the darker tan colour, but I would (and did) take Luxury over Performance given the choice for a daily or even frequent driver.



The interior of the example we're discussing does seem oddly worn, though. My seats don't show anything like that kind of wear and I'm only 1,000 miles short of the same mileage. Maybe I got there faster and have less seat time...

Streetbeat

859 posts

75 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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Certainly more subtle than the tan one, very Ferrari esque and nice there is no cream on the dash ala the tan car, maybe thats why the tan one is just too ott for me.

Each to their own of course, would be a very boring world if we all liked the same thing.

RSbandit

2,590 posts

131 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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So had an hour in a 720S Spider yday, first time driving a 720S...tricky to open it up much as plenty of traffic around but when I did it was just warp speed. The suspension is super compliant which is quite remarkable for a car with such performance. I think the best feature is undoubtedly being able to drop the rear window to allow more noise into the cabin. It sounded pretty good with some proper bangs on downshifts. However this makes me think how more pronounced this will be in a 600LT Spider with the exhausts right behind your head. I enjoyed the hour in the car but I think it's defo left me leaning more towards a 600LT Spider rather than a 720S coupe but I still need a drive in the former.

matrignano

4,344 posts

209 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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For those interested and in the market, McLaren Ascot have just put for sale a Myan orange 600LT with lots of carbon.
it looks very nice indeed!

yak293

172 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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720 just a very very fast Daily.
600LT more fun occasional weekend/track-day car.
LT's every time.

964Cup

1,407 posts

236 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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yak293 said:
720 just a very very fast Daily.
600LT more fun occasional weekend/track-day car.
LT's every time.
I have a stock 720s Coupe, and a track-prepared 991.1GT3RS. The McLaren is comfortably as fast - and as fun - as the GT3 on track, despite being on PS4S against the Cup 2s on the Porsche. People do use 600LTs (and GT3RSs, come to that) for touring, but I'd much rather be in the 720.

Streetbeat

859 posts

75 months

Wednesday 5th October 2022
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yak293 said:
720 just a very very fast Daily.
600LT more fun occasional weekend/track-day car.
LT's every time.
I thinks it very difficult to quantify fun when it comes to cars, i totally get the 600lt may give a more visceral, raw experience than a 720s, but more fun, depends on the owners definition.

12pack

1,533 posts

167 months

Wednesday 5th October 2022
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Per my thoughts in the “Why we love Mclarens” thread, I think raw and visceral is just nonsense if doesn’t make the car a better performer…..

Gibbo205

3,527 posts

206 months

Wednesday 5th October 2022
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Streetbeat said:
I thinks it very difficult to quantify fun when it comes to cars, i totally get the 600lt may give a more visceral, raw experience than a 720s, but more fun, depends on the owners definition.
Driven both, 720S is faster, 600 LT more engaging.

My money went on the 600 LT Spider, just for a far more engaging and more fun car. smile

Plus its an LT so will be the one in years that is the wanted one along with 675LT and 765LT.

Streetbeat

859 posts

75 months

Wednesday 5th October 2022
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So more engagement means more fun for you, fair enough smile I find 711hp very engaging so its 720s everytime for me smile

Although i will say i prefer the sharper steering in the 600LT.

Rocketreid

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626 posts

71 months

Wednesday 5th October 2022
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Gibbo205 said:
Driven both, 720S is faster, 600 LT more engaging.

My money went on the 600 LT Spider, just for a far more engaging and more fun car. smile

Plus its an LT so will be the one in years that is the wanted one along with 675LT and 765LT.
The 600LT is a lighter car with steering/handling that has been designed to provide a bit more fun.

However the 600LT Spider is no lighter than a Track Pack 720s Coupe which is a much faster more advanced car.

It’s why McLaren make different cars to suit different folks.

While I still do like, my old 600LT the 720s I have now does everything and more on road.

At the limit on track it is perhaps not so engaging but you are travelling quicker.

Sarnie

8,025 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th October 2022
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People prefer the cars they own or want to buy over other cars they don't own or want to buy.

Shocker biggrin

Gibbo205

3,527 posts

206 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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Streetbeat said:
So more engagement means more fun for you, fair enough smile I find 711hp very engaging so its 720s everytime for me smile

Although i will say i prefer the sharper steering in the 600LT.
What equates more fun to me is at what point to I start to get a thrill when driving on a UK road, now to be bluntly honest no Mclaren particular shines at this as these cars have to be going a proper lick to start engaging with the driver.

But all the times I've driven a 720S I've frankly had to drive at speeds which would not just get me in trouble but frankly land me in jail and probably for a long time, that for me is why the 720S is out.

As daft as it sounds if I wanted a car purely for lap times the 720S would probably be the better choice, no two ways about it but its an easy car to pedal extremely fast, even if your only at 7-8/10's of the cars ability its like you've got a cheat code activated on track.

I drive my cars mainly on road, maybe 1-2 track days per year, now the 600 LT is still a bit manic for the road but in my experience I found the 600 LT particular the Spider a lot more rewarding at lower speeds compared to a 720S.

I totally get why people love 720S the ride is magical and the performance effortless, they make excellent daily drivers, not that a sports series is a bad daily either but for me my own personal fun levels of engagement are at a lower speeds in a 600 LT compared to a 720S, which when driving on our roads full of cameras and speed limits is somewhat a major consideration. I am not happy to do 130-160mph on public roads, my crazy days are behind me and yes I know a 600 LT is still too fast for the road but a 720S is a just not making me smile within or just over speed limits.

This is also why older cars can be so much fun, and is why I own stuff like a 987.2 Spyder manual, Lotus Exige and an old E36 M3 as they deliver fun and engagement in truck loads even within the speed limit, faster never means better! Hence I went with the car that gave me more feedback and had me smiling at lower speeds, the 600 LT.

Were all different and I don't want to be driving down country roads or blast down motorways at 100mph plus to get my kicks, plus the roads are dramatically different to 20 years ago.

Edited by Gibbo205 on Thursday 6th October 10:23

Streetbeat

859 posts

75 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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You've probably highlighted what I was getting at, my 570s is too fast for the road and back to back with the 720 I still prefer the sharper steering of 570s. I can't really see im going to be going any faster on the road in my 570s to a 720s, or a 600lt, they are all at license loosing speeds in 6 secs or so.

I'm at the stage where driving on the road is now just a necessary evil to get to somewhere (i.e trackday, euro trip) to enjoy the car to its or my abilities so I'm biased to something more relaxed on the road.

I would love to be in your position of multiple cars to suit the mood, but I need the best all rounder, the 720s fits that bill better for me, but as rocketreid, I would really like a track pack, if just for the p1 seats.

Looking forward to hearing what you think of it with a trackday under your belt, my 570s track pack seems to come alive on the track.

roboR

199 posts

106 months

Thursday 6th October 2022
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Just a question, but here in Europe I've seen a number of 600LT's with the roof snorkel (which the 5 year old in my brain absolutely adores). Why have I never seen a UK spec car with this? I'm imagining it was a pricey option? And of course I fully understand not to many (many!) customers tastes.