How reliable is a 675lt?
Discussion
WilliamWaiver said:
LordOfTheManor said:
Really can't afford to get it wrong as it intends to be the "keeper" car so it needs to the right car, free from stories or accuses.
Absolutely that's why that car is almost a one off and very sensibly priced given the mileage. Delivery mileage and a saving of £80k off list, there aren't going to be many 4 year old cars like that coming up let alone 675LT spiders of which there is circa 40 in the UK.Hope you can find away round it my lord
This one may have 'delivery' 500miles but you would be doing the car a real dis-service by not using it ( i also doubt you would be able resist ) so very quickly you could rack up 3.5k miles and you have taken it down to the same value as the others....thats a big, quick hit in value.
If you want it as a garage queen it is appealing, however i personally do feel that 675LTs have a bit more to slip in price yet...like almost everything in the next few months.
Just my thoughts as i also have been considering a 675LT spider since before lockdown but for the first time in my life i am actually thinking long and hard...
I love the 675LT story, Ron Dennis etc and when I was looking to upgrade my 570s I looked at a lovely 2016 Napier Green Spider.
I was persuaded by my 2 teenage sons to go for a 720s instead. In their opinion the 720s was more modern, better looking and faster !
I’ve not regretted it one bit, over 2 yrs newer £80,000 less and full of Carbon and all the extras.
Many 675LT’s don’t get used as intended which defeats imo the object of owning one which is to drive it. I know some folks like the 675LT Kudos and have it as an event car which of course is their choice, I prefer to drive mine both on road and track. Went today and it confirmed to me how good the 720 is on track and then as smooth and comfortable as a Range Rover on way home.
But really a well specced 720s is a mighty beast and more than a match for a 675.
I have to confess never driven a 675LT on track and I concede I could have a different opinion but on road the 720s is the better car.
I was persuaded by my 2 teenage sons to go for a 720s instead. In their opinion the 720s was more modern, better looking and faster !
I’ve not regretted it one bit, over 2 yrs newer £80,000 less and full of Carbon and all the extras.
Many 675LT’s don’t get used as intended which defeats imo the object of owning one which is to drive it. I know some folks like the 675LT Kudos and have it as an event car which of course is their choice, I prefer to drive mine both on road and track. Went today and it confirmed to me how good the 720 is on track and then as smooth and comfortable as a Range Rover on way home.
But really a well specced 720s is a mighty beast and more than a match for a 675.
I have to confess never driven a 675LT on track and I concede I could have a different opinion but on road the 720s is the better car.
650spider said:
2 other napier green 675LT spiders have also been up for sale lately each with around 4k miles and both for around £205k which i am sure could have had very slight negotiation on.
This one may have 'delivery' 500miles but you would be doing the car a real dis-service by not using it ( i also doubt you would be able resist ) so very quickly you could rack up 3.5k miles and you have taken it down to the same value as the others....thats a big, quick hit in value.
If you want it as a garage queen it is appealing, however i personally do feel that 675LTs have a bit more to slip in price yet...like almost everything in the next few months.
Just my thoughts as i also have been considering a 675LT spider since before lockdown but for the first time in my life i am actually thinking long and hard...
675LTs are very spec dependent.This one may have 'delivery' 500miles but you would be doing the car a real dis-service by not using it ( i also doubt you would be able resist ) so very quickly you could rack up 3.5k miles and you have taken it down to the same value as the others....thats a big, quick hit in value.
If you want it as a garage queen it is appealing, however i personally do feel that 675LTs have a bit more to slip in price yet...like almost everything in the next few months.
Just my thoughts as i also have been considering a 675LT spider since before lockdown but for the first time in my life i am actually thinking long and hard...
Anything MSO seems name your price.
I'm also looking whilst saving but not so sure they will drop to my budget as a preferred spider and if I'm too slow may move further away.
I can't get away from the fact that some of these cars were worth £400k just 3 years ago.
Some good ones sold last month at circa £225k and I'm worried supply will dry up before I get my chance but as its an additional car on top of the ferrari and lambo I'm happy to not rush in unless the exact spec car and price forces my hand lol.
In reality any of these are a steal at £200k IMHO especially when 10 year old standard 458s are £150k
WilliamWaiver said:
650spider said:
2 other napier green 675LT spiders have also been up for sale lately each with around 4k miles and both for around £205k which i am sure could have had very slight negotiation on.
This one may have 'delivery' 500miles but you would be doing the car a real dis-service by not using it ( i also doubt you would be able resist ) so very quickly you could rack up 3.5k miles and you have taken it down to the same value as the others....thats a big, quick hit in value.
If you want it as a garage queen it is appealing, however i personally do feel that 675LTs have a bit more to slip in price yet...like almost everything in the next few months.
Just my thoughts as i also have been considering a 675LT spider since before lockdown but for the first time in my life i am actually thinking long and hard...
675LTs are very spec dependent.This one may have 'delivery' 500miles but you would be doing the car a real dis-service by not using it ( i also doubt you would be able resist ) so very quickly you could rack up 3.5k miles and you have taken it down to the same value as the others....thats a big, quick hit in value.
If you want it as a garage queen it is appealing, however i personally do feel that 675LTs have a bit more to slip in price yet...like almost everything in the next few months.
Just my thoughts as i also have been considering a 675LT spider since before lockdown but for the first time in my life i am actually thinking long and hard...
Anything MSO seems name your price.
I'm also looking whilst saving but not so sure they will drop to my budget as a preferred spider and if I'm too slow may move further away.
I can't get away from the fact that some of these cars were worth £400k just 3 years ago.
Some good ones sold last month at circa £225k and I'm worried supply will dry up before I get my chance but as its an additional car on top of the ferrari and lambo I'm happy to not rush in unless the exact spec car and price forces my hand lol.
In reality any of these are a steal at £200k IMHO especially when 10 year old standard 458s are £150k
The napier green one in discussion was listed just under £290k at the beginning of this year.
650spider said:
6 months ago a 675LT spider at less than £250k was an eyeopener.
The napier green one in discussion was listed just under £290k at the beginning of this year.
I know it was low mileage but £290k was still optimistic only 6 months ago as it was quite a basic spec car. I've only seen it at £270k until it recently dropped. The napier green one in discussion was listed just under £290k at the beginning of this year.
I could of had a 100 mile car just like it from Mac Manchester back in November 17 for £298 less £8k finance deposit but I didn't want to finance at the time.
Within 2 days it then sold doooh !
Because of these kind of recent drops I think they will have bottomed out especially when supply of good ones dries up. There are what probably 40 UK RHD spiders so its not like the 1,000's of 720S and 600LT's out there.
Longer term I'm convinced they will reach Challenge stradale status just through rarity and a growing brand, unless they go insolvent lol when they will be worth even more just like TVR.
I do want to get into one beofre its too late and I miss the boat altogether so i think the time is close but its hard 2nd guessing where the bottom is and the rise begins
WilliamWaiver said:
I know it was low mileage but £290k was still optimistic only 6 months ago as it was quite a basic spec car. I've only seen it at £270k until it recently dropped.
I could of had a 100 mile car just like it from Mac Manchester back in November 17 for £298 less £8k finance deposit but I didn't want to finance at the time.
Within 2 days it then sold doooh !
Because of these kind of recent drops I think they will have bottomed out especially when supply of good ones dries up. There are what probably 40 UK RHD spiders so its not like the 1,000's of 720S and 600LT's out there.
Longer term I'm convinced they will reach Challenge stradale status just through rarity and a growing brand, unless they go insolvent lol when they will be worth even more just like TVR.
I do want to get into one beofre its too late and I miss the boat altogether so i think the time is close but its hard 2nd guessing where the bottom is and the rise begins
If it’s a Long term keeper, I’d be buying now. If you are putting your financial head on, wait a couple of months. I think the bottom is close.I could of had a 100 mile car just like it from Mac Manchester back in November 17 for £298 less £8k finance deposit but I didn't want to finance at the time.
Within 2 days it then sold doooh !
Because of these kind of recent drops I think they will have bottomed out especially when supply of good ones dries up. There are what probably 40 UK RHD spiders so its not like the 1,000's of 720S and 600LT's out there.
Longer term I'm convinced they will reach Challenge stradale status just through rarity and a growing brand, unless they go insolvent lol when they will be worth even more just like TVR.
I do want to get into one beofre its too late and I miss the boat altogether so i think the time is close but its hard 2nd guessing where the bottom is and the rise begins
MAC 720S said:
If it’s a Long term keeper, I’d be buying now. If you are putting your financial head on, wait a couple of months. I think the bottom is close.
Yeah it would be a long termer and buying now would give me some summer use so I am on the fence at my.Ideally I want a high spec MSO car and preference is napier green or papaya spark orange under 6,000 miles.
Don't want a garage queen as not good for car and I will put min 3,000 miles pa annum on it .
I do 12,000 private mainly weekend miles across 3 cars now
WilliamWaiver said:
Yeah it would be a long termer and buying now would give me some summer use so I am on the fence at my.
Ideally I want a high spec MSO car and preference is napier green or papaya spark orange under 6,000 miles.
Don't want a garage queen as not good for car and I will put min 3,000 miles pa annum on it .
I do 12,000 private mainly weekend miles across 3 cars now
Some cars don’t hit the classifieds. Have you tried AB? He may be able to approach someone he knows with the spec you want. Most UK owners know each other.Ideally I want a high spec MSO car and preference is napier green or papaya spark orange under 6,000 miles.
Don't want a garage queen as not good for car and I will put min 3,000 miles pa annum on it .
I do 12,000 private mainly weekend miles across 3 cars now
MAC 720S said:
Some cars don’t hit the classifieds. Have you tried AB? He may be able to approach someone he knows with the spec you want. Most UK owners know each other.
Yes thanks for suggestion and I have spoken to Alistair at length as well as most Mclaren dealers.I might pop along to new forest dealer this weekend as not been there before and don't know the guys.
There is a possible car in pipeline but I think the owner wants to sell it in September now
LordOfTheManor said:
over £7k Mclaren service and warranty plus £6k for proper PPF = 13k
It might not be a lot to some BUT it made my new toy a "tad" expensive for me at this time.
Here's some numbers from my McLarens as a contrastIt might not be a lot to some BUT it made my new toy a "tad" expensive for me at this time.
Every service has been around £1k
PPF Xpel Ultimate on both cars £3k on 650 £1.5k on 675 (some already on)
2 year warranty on 675 from Warranty Wise £3.6k, (never needed to claim)
None of the above involved Thorney
You need to shop around and listen to the advice from guys that have run these cars
Trying to leverage your £13k figure as a discount on the car is not going to be received well
LordOfTheManor said:
Once the AB part is mentioned everything loses all credibility, I was being offered a 6mths warranty and as most of their adverts say.
you can pay extra for something else. Lets not go there again
Yes, you can save money if you do the Mclaren Warranty for two years then its nearly £8k - you're as bad as her indoors at spending my money
You need to park your needle with AB.you can pay extra for something else. Lets not go there again
Yes, you can save money if you do the Mclaren Warranty for two years then its nearly £8k - you're as bad as her indoors at spending my money
You got the wrong end of a stick and you are the only person I've come across who has an issue with him.
You are doing both of you disservice.
He is far more trustworthy and knowledgeable than most the McLaren dealers
Rocketreid said:
But really a well specced 720s is a mighty beast and more than a match for a 675.
I have to confess never driven a 675LT on track and I concede I could have a different opinion but on road the 720s is the better car.
That really depends on what you want from the car.I have to confess never driven a 675LT on track and I concede I could have a different opinion but on road the 720s is the better car.
I drove my 650, a 720 and a 675 on track and the local dealers "test" route.
I cancelled my new 720 order and bought a lighlty used 675LT spider.
Yes its got a slower top end and fractioanlly slower 0-60.
But it knocks sock of a 720 for engagement and handling.
I've loved touring the UK and France in it.
My ONLY regret is not finding a Volcano Orange spider for sale.
Cue photo!
DSC00124PS by Mikey K 675LT, on Flickrmikey k said:
That really depends on what you want from the car.
I drove my 650, a 720 and a 675 on track and the local dealers "test" route.
I cancelled my new 720 order and bought a lighlty used 675LT spider.
Yes its got a slower top end and fractioanlly slower 0-60.
But it knocks sock of a 720 for engagement and handling.
I've loved touring the UK and France in it.
My ONLY regret is not finding a Volcano Orange spider for sale.
Cue photo!
DSC00124PS by Mikey K 675LT, on Flickr
Always debateable, and no 675LT owner is going to admit the 720s is overall the better car. Horses for Courses !!I drove my 650, a 720 and a 675 on track and the local dealers "test" route.
I cancelled my new 720 order and bought a lighlty used 675LT spider.
Yes its got a slower top end and fractioanlly slower 0-60.
But it knocks sock of a 720 for engagement and handling.
I've loved touring the UK and France in it.
My ONLY regret is not finding a Volcano Orange spider for sale.
Cue photo!
DSC00124PS by Mikey K 675LT, on FlickrRocketreid said:
mikey k said:
That really depends on what you want from the car.
I drove my 650, a 720 and a 675 on track and the local dealers "test" route.
I cancelled my new 720 order and bought a lighlty used 675LT spider.
Yes its got a slower top end and fractioanlly slower 0-60.
But it knocks sock of a 720 for engagement and handling.
I've loved touring the UK and France in it.
My ONLY regret is not finding a Volcano Orange spider for sale.
Cue photo!
DSC00124PS by Mikey K 675LT, on Flickr
Always debateable, and no 675LT owner is going to admit the 720s is overall the better car. Horses for Courses !!I drove my 650, a 720 and a 675 on track and the local dealers "test" route.
I cancelled my new 720 order and bought a lighlty used 675LT spider.
Yes its got a slower top end and fractioanlly slower 0-60.
But it knocks sock of a 720 for engagement and handling.
I've loved touring the UK and France in it.
My ONLY regret is not finding a Volcano Orange spider for sale.
Cue photo!
DSC00124PS by Mikey K 675LT, on FlickrI don’t think I could live with a 675LT as a regular McLaren user (15K miles in 14 months with 720S), but if I could just resist the temptation to drive the socks off it, I would buy a 675LT. The 720S is just such a damn capable supercar for every occasion. I just can’t stop driving the thing.
mikey k said:
That really depends on what you want from the car.
I drove my 650, a 720 and a 675 on track and the local dealers "test" route.
I cancelled my new 720 order and bought a lighlty used 675LT spider.
Yes its got a slower top end and fractioanlly slower 0-60.
But it knocks sock of a 720 for engagement and handling.
I've loved touring the UK and France in it.
My ONLY regret is not finding a Volcano Orange spider for sale.
Cue photo!
DSC00124PS by Mikey K 675LT, on Flickr
Very nice Spider you have there!I drove my 650, a 720 and a 675 on track and the local dealers "test" route.
I cancelled my new 720 order and bought a lighlty used 675LT spider.
Yes its got a slower top end and fractioanlly slower 0-60.
But it knocks sock of a 720 for engagement and handling.
I've loved touring the UK and France in it.
My ONLY regret is not finding a Volcano Orange spider for sale.
Cue photo!
DSC00124PS by Mikey K 675LT, on FlickrFYI, there was a beautiful 675LT Spider on sale at McBristol for ages, going back about a year now i think! So much carbon fibre, the only thing was it had comfort seats.. preferred by some, however, i assume it put the majority of buyers off.
WilliamWaiver said:
MAC 720S said:
Some cars don’t hit the classifieds. Have you tried AB? He may be able to approach someone he knows with the spec you want. Most UK owners know each other.
Yes thanks for suggestion and I have spoken to Alistair at length as well as most Mclaren dealers.I might pop along to new forest dealer this weekend as not been there before and don't know the guys.
There is a possible car in pipeline but I think the owner wants to sell it in September now
Happy to answer any questions on PM's.
MAC 720S said:
Rocketreid said:
mikey k said:
That really depends on what you want from the car.
I drove my 650, a 720 and a 675 on track and the local dealers "test" route.
I cancelled my new 720 order and bought a lighlty used 675LT spider.
Yes its got a slower top end and fractioanlly slower 0-60.
But it knocks sock of a 720 for engagement and handling.
I've loved touring the UK and France in it.
My ONLY regret is not finding a Volcano Orange spider for sale.
Cue photo!
DSC00124PS by Mikey K 675LT, on Flickr
Always debateable, and no 675LT owner is going to admit the 720s is overall the better car. Horses for Courses !!I drove my 650, a 720 and a 675 on track and the local dealers "test" route.
I cancelled my new 720 order and bought a lighlty used 675LT spider.
Yes its got a slower top end and fractioanlly slower 0-60.
But it knocks sock of a 720 for engagement and handling.
I've loved touring the UK and France in it.
My ONLY regret is not finding a Volcano Orange spider for sale.
Cue photo!
DSC00124PS by Mikey K 675LT, on FlickrI don’t think I could live with a 675LT as a regular McLaren user (15K miles in 14 months with 720S), but if I could just resist the temptation to drive the socks off it, I would buy a 675LT. The 720S is just such a damn capable supercar for every occasion. I just can’t stop driving the thing.
correct as per first line of my post 
I've done 500 mile days in the LTS along with the wife no issues.
The wizardry of CF tubs and hydraulic suspension actually make it a great GT, not much noisier than my 650 was.
720 is a mental car, possibly too mental. Having driven several on and off track I just felt it didn't "talk to me" as much as as 675LT does. I like a car that "communicates" what its doing, this was my main issue with the 650 (and 720). That said not doing that makes then a superb mile muncher and a monster at the flick of a switch. I will be sad to see my 675 go (looming property deal requires the funds). I'll probably follow Micks lead and by a 2year old 720 spider to mess with fettle. Doubt I'll take my 765 slot.
McLarenGuru said:
Very nice Spider you have there!
FYI, there was a beautiful 675LT Spider on sale at McBristol for ages, going back about a year now i think! So much carbon fibre, the only thing was it had comfort seats.. preferred by some, however, i assume it put the majority of buyers off.
I recall it and know the owner.FYI, there was a beautiful 675LT Spider on sale at McBristol for ages, going back about a year now i think! So much carbon fibre, the only thing was it had comfort seats.. preferred by some, however, i assume it put the majority of buyers off.
LT's with out the P1 seats really do struggle to sell.
That seat in that car just seems to be a contradiction.
IIRC less than 5% were speced wiht them.
I had one hell of a search trying to find an LT with leather/CF interior with P1 seats rather than all alcantara
I did eventually
Never seen another one with that interior combo.
I've driven 600LTS, 675LTS and a number of 720S' and own a 720S coupe.
In my opinion the 675LT and 720S are not truly comparable, and each is better than the other in a number of respects.
The 675LT is considerably more exciting and engaging. But the 720S is much quicker, and a better all round car.
However, that actually means that for my own personal type of usage (weekends and occasions, plus occasional track), the 675LTS would actually be the better car for me personally.
For a mainly road car, and especially for a daily or almost daily however, the 720S is the better car.
Interior of the 720S is considerably better too.
The holy grail will be the 765LT, which will combine both. Except that the 720S will remain the better daily, even then.
In my opinion the 675LT and 720S are not truly comparable, and each is better than the other in a number of respects.
The 675LT is considerably more exciting and engaging. But the 720S is much quicker, and a better all round car.
However, that actually means that for my own personal type of usage (weekends and occasions, plus occasional track), the 675LTS would actually be the better car for me personally.
For a mainly road car, and especially for a daily or almost daily however, the 720S is the better car.
Interior of the 720S is considerably better too.
The holy grail will be the 765LT, which will combine both. Except that the 720S will remain the better daily, even then.
LotusJas said:
I've driven 600LTS, 675LTS and a number of 720S' and own a 720S coupe.
In my opinion the 675LT and 720S are not truly comparable, and each is better than the other in a number of respects.
The 675LT is considerably more exciting and engaging. But the 720S is much quicker, and a better all round car.
However, that actually means that for my own personal type of usage (weekends and occasions, plus occasional track), the 675LTS would actually be the better car for me personally.
For a mainly road car, and especially for a daily or almost daily however, the 720S is the better car.
Interior of the 720S is considerably better too.
The holy grail will be the 765LT, which will combine both. Except that the 720S will remain the better daily, even then.
I agree with the above bar the final sentence about the 765LT being the holy grail. Personally I don't think anymore speed/performance over a 675LT is required on the road having driven both a 675LTS and a 720S.In my opinion the 675LT and 720S are not truly comparable, and each is better than the other in a number of respects.
The 675LT is considerably more exciting and engaging. But the 720S is much quicker, and a better all round car.
However, that actually means that for my own personal type of usage (weekends and occasions, plus occasional track), the 675LTS would actually be the better car for me personally.
For a mainly road car, and especially for a daily or almost daily however, the 720S is the better car.
Interior of the 720S is considerably better too.
The holy grail will be the 765LT, which will combine both. Except that the 720S will remain the better daily, even then.
What I want from a supercar on public roads is driver engagement and excitement and the faster and more capable a car is the less it gives you of this at sensible speeds.
TBH the 675LT is plenty fast enough let alone another 90bhp that you cant use safely. 720S is an amazingly capable car and great as a daily driver but its not really a sunny weekend toy like the LT.
I have a deposit in on a 765LTS but would actually prefer to pick up a 675LTS beforehand if the right one comes along
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