Stepping up to a Mclaren?

Stepping up to a Mclaren?

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Smoothound

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148 posts

46 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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1st ever post on here!

Just sold my Cayman S and originally I was looking to replace it with a Cayman GTS but now I have a hankering to appease my inner lust and step up to a Mclaren.

I'm looking at possibly a 12C or a 540C. I briefly drove a 12C a while back but it is a distant memory! It's purely a toy but the ability top daily it without too many hiccups would be a bonus. Probably paying cash and spending up to £85k ish. Just curious as to what the consensus of the best buy would be. I fully intend to drive both before splashing the cash just looking for opinions. I think the biggest issue against the 12C is the lack of a lift and my drive vs road camber may be an issue although the Cayman and 2 MK3 Focus RS's were fine!

There are a few that interest me currently but I'm not 100% the best course of action. To be fair it's probably the GTS but then that's not why I'm here smile

RSbandit

2,602 posts

132 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Any Mclaren is a diff league to a Cayman but the running costs will be higher of course. If you can stretch to a 570s as they are nicer spec than the 540c out of the box and ceramic brakes were standard. Warranty is a must as I found out myself recently but sport series still cheaper than the 12c warranty wise. Thorney motorsport better for warranties on the older cars cost wise. Just be advised that there can be niggles and parts are expensive.

RBT0

1,476 posts

119 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Do it properly, go for a 570S, possibly with MSO titanium or sport exhaust. Telling you that because I know Cayman sounds nice.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Smoothound said:
1st ever post on here!

Just sold my Cayman S and originally I was looking to replace it with a Cayman GTS but now I have a hankering to appease my inner lust and step up to a Mclaren.

I'm looking at possibly a 12C or a 540C. I briefly drove a 12C a while back but it is a distant memory! It's purely a toy but the ability top daily it without too many hiccups would be a bonus. Probably paying cash and spending up to £85k ish. Just curious as to what the consensus of the best buy would be. I fully intend to drive both before splashing the cash just looking for opinions. I think the biggest issue against the 12C is the lack of a lift and my drive vs road camber may be an issue although the Cayman and 2 MK3 Focus RS's were fine!

There are a few that interest me currently but I'm not 100% the best course of action. To be fair it's probably the GTS but then that's not why I'm here smile
Wait a couple of months until after the usual summer spending resides and when the depression gets a grip. I’d go for a 650S.


WilliamWaiver

439 posts

45 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Yeah I'm actively looking to add a Mclaren to the Ferrari and Lamborghini to have my own holy trio but it will be another lightweight track special as I don't do regular production cars

Superleg48

1,524 posts

133 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Mclaren may have gone bust by the end of the year. Not sure how that will impact the support network, but probably not well.

I would hold off sinking £85k cash into a car that may present some significant issues for you with after sales support until the position at McLaren becomes clearer.

Just to be clear, I hope they do work it out, as I love some of their products, especially 650S, and do not subscribe a great deal to all the internet self-promoting horror story vloggers banging on about how crap they are. I hear many stories of owners having next to no issues or minor jiggly ones that blight pretty much every manufacturer.

Smoothound

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148 posts

46 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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RSbandit said:
Any Mclaren is a diff league to a Cayman but the running costs will be higher of course. If you can stretch to a 570s as they are nicer spec than the 540c out of the box and ceramic brakes were standard. Warranty is a must as I found out myself recently but sport series still cheaper than the 12c warranty wise. Thorney motorsport better for warranties on the older cars cost wise. Just be advised that there can be niggles and parts are expensive.
Yeah I am ready for the additional cost's and well aware of the warranty issues. I would imagine that the 12C is now getting to the age where Mclaren will no longer put new warranties on them? I'll add the 570s to the reading list!

Smoothound

Original Poster:

148 posts

46 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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RBT0 said:
Do it properly, go for a 570S, possibly with MSO titanium or sport exhaust. Telling you that because I know Cayman sounds nice.
That's the main draw of a new Cayman...that sound smile

12pack

1,543 posts

168 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Smoothound said:
That's the main draw of a new Cayman...that sound smile
Well, then you need a spider. Any Mac with the back glass or top down will sound better inside. My 650 spider sounds better inside than even my V12 Vantage (which just symphonic on the outside).

Smoothound

Original Poster:

148 posts

46 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Superleg48 said:
Mclaren may have gone bust by the end of the year. Not sure how that will impact the support network, but probably not well.

I would hold off sinking £85k cash into a car that may present some significant issues for you with after sales support until the position at McLaren becomes clearer.

Just to be clear, I hope they do work it out, as I love some of their products, especially 650S, and do not subscribe a great deal to all the internet self-promoting horror story vloggers banging on about how crap they are. I hear many stories of owners having next to no issues or minor jiggly ones that blight pretty much every manufacturer.
I'm sort of leaning towards holding off for a while to see how it all pans out. I do have a small amount of inside knowlege of their workings/issues/problems so I'm not too worried about what the vloggers etc. are saying! There are issues but on the whole they are a car I would like to own!

SELON

1,172 posts

129 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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£85k would stretch to a 650S coupe. But my preference would be the Mc Orange 12C with the MSO front at Alastair Bols.

anissut

248 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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The problem with the MSO Orange car at AB is that MSO Front splitter is lower than the normal splitter and that 12C doesn't have lift. Can imagine there may be a fair bit of scraping over bumps etc.

SELON

1,172 posts

129 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Looks in good condition. Is it that much lower? Anyway, I think I’d forgive it that and just avoid speed bumps. Even in S London, that’s still possible. Just.

xcentric

722 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Interesting post, given I'd come on here to ask a related question.

Now considering a 540c or 570 or similar at the £85k level - and whilst I don't want the thread to degenerate into a depreciation disaster rant, is the collective opinion that these have done most if not all of their (rather steep) initial drops and so one can buy with a little more confidence now? Obviously running costs are at supercar levels, but my impression is the these have undergone more of an L shaped depreciation curve than the exponential decay one usually sees.....


Smoothound

Original Poster:

148 posts

46 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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SELON said:
£85k would stretch to a 650S coupe. But my preference would be the Mc Orange 12C with the MSO front at Alastair Bols.
I have spoken to Alastair about that car but he has told me it is lower than a normal one at 120mm but I've read that they are 100mm and also 119mm standard? My real issue is the road camber/overider at my girlfriends house which creates a fair dip in the gutter of the road. I can get the Cayman S and MK3 Focus RS's across it with tread to spare but I'm not sure about a Mclaren without a lift?

Obviously if anyone wants to pop round and try theirs on her drive please feel free to offer laughlaughlaughjester

Edited by Smoothound on Thursday 9th July 18:02

Smoothound

Original Poster:

148 posts

46 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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anissut said:
The problem with the MSO Orange car at AB is that MSO Front splitter is lower than the normal splitter and that 12C doesn't have lift. Can imagine there may be a fair bit of scraping over bumps etc.
From looking around so far it appears most 12C's don't have a lift and some dealers will tell you none of them do! rolleyesrolleyes

Smoothound

Original Poster:

148 posts

46 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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xcentric said:
Interesting post, given I'd come on here to ask a related question.

Now considering a 540c or 570 or similar at the £85k level - and whilst I don't want the thread to degenerate into a depreciation disaster rant, is the collective opinion that these have done most if not all of their (rather steep) initial drops and so one can buy with a little more confidence now? Obviously running costs are at supercar levels, but my impression is the these have undergone more of an L shaped depreciation curve than the exponential decay one usually sees.....

I'm on the same page but I'm sat on the fence thinking maybe wait another 6 months to a year to see how the current situation affects things? I'd like to do it now as I've sold my Cayman and am stuck in my ageing Fiesta for now biggrinbiggrin

drcarrera

791 posts

225 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Smoothound said:
... My real issue is the road camber/overider at my girlfriends house ...
Easy solution to that one ...! wink

EvoSid

1,101 posts

63 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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xcentric said:
Interesting post, given I'd come on here to ask a related question.

Now considering a 540c or 570 or similar at the £85k level - and whilst I don't want the thread to degenerate into a depreciation disaster rant, is the collective opinion that these have done most if not all of their (rather steep) initial drops and so one can buy with a little more confidence now? Obviously running costs are at supercar levels, but my impression is the these have undergone more of an L shaped depreciation curve than the exponential decay one usually sees.....

I think that is the question we all want to now , If we were to buy a 570S for £85K what all it be worth in 2 years. My guess £65-70K assuming Mclaren remain in business .

EvoSid

1,101 posts

63 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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MAC 720S said:
Wait a couple of months until after the usual summer spending resides and when the depression gets a grip. I’d go for a 650S.
Why would you go for a 650S over a 570S . Please excuse my ignorance as I have not tried either , not for lack of trying