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jwdh1

209 posts

90 months

Thursday 30th June
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LotusJas said:
jwdh1 said:
looks like you're up against my father-in-law! Thought I recognised your pictures taken from a different angle!
Nice! The hypercars class (Pursuit of Speed) was won by a stunning Koenigsegg. No shame in that for the 2 McLarens in the class (a beautiful SLR + mine), which were punching hard above their weight.
I was wondering what won! His cars (F40, F50 and Enzo) were transported there and none of us had time to go and attend, which was a shame as it looked like a good event - your car looks stunning, congrats smile

LotusJas

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1,256 posts

212 months

Saturday 2nd July
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jwdh1 said:
I was wondering what won! His cars (F40, F50 and Enzo) were transported there and none of us had time to go and attend, which was a shame as it looked like a good event - your car looks stunning, congrats smile
Wow, I didn't realise those three were all owned by one person! All 3 were beautiful. What a wonderful trinity to own!

I think all the others in the class might have been transported there.

Mine was driven there, so wasn't spotless. It also had (relatively) a lot of miles on it. For example it had done more miles in one month than the F40 had done in 30 years!

R8Reece

1,305 posts

70 months

Sunday 3rd July
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LotusJas said:
Mine was driven there, so wasn't spotless. It also had (relatively) a lot of miles on it. For example it had done more miles in one month than the F40 had done in 30 years!
If someone looked up the word "travesty" in the petrol head's dictionary, that should be what they read.

jwdh1

209 posts

90 months

Sunday 3rd July
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R8Reece said:
LotusJas said:
Mine was driven there, so wasn't spotless. It also had (relatively) a lot of miles on it. For example it had done more miles in one month than the F40 had done in 30 years!
If someone looked up the word "travesty" in the petrol head's dictionary, that should be what they read.
He’s just bought the F40 so lack of miles nothing to do with us but in terms of lack of use, we have plenty of other cars to drive hence yearly mileage on any given car is always low.

LotusJas

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1,256 posts

212 months

Sunday 3rd July
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To be fair, if someone buys an ultra low mileage F40 or similar today, I'd totally understand the buyer not putting more miles on it and devaluing it.

Personally, I'd struggle with staying away from the driving seat though.

r o n n i e

298 posts

157 months

Sunday 3rd July
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LotusJas said:
To be fair, if someone buys an ultra low mileage F40 or similar today, I'd totally understand the buyer not putting more miles on it and devaluing it.

Personally, I'd struggle with staying away from the driving seat though.
Jas you are clearly passionate about your cars and that is great to see.

Really enjoyed listening to you share your story…


LotusJas

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1,256 posts

212 months

Sunday 3rd July
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Thanks Ronnie smile

JayK12

2,221 posts

183 months

Tuesday 5th July
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That looks stunning!! Was in one at Donington Park last week and for a road car, on track it was mighty impressive!!

LotusJas

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1,256 posts

212 months

Wednesday 6th July
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JayK12 said:
That looks stunning!! Was in one at Donington Park last week and for a road car, on track it was mighty impressive!!
Thanks.

765LT is easily the best car I've ever driven, although not the quickest. Just the best overall in driver engagement & secondly performance.

Desert Dragon

1,246 posts

65 months

Thursday 7th July
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I understand the LT models are the track specials but out of 675 LT and 765LT but which one do PH owners of these beasts maybe goes down a choppy UK country road better? Do either flow with UK roads?

LotusJas

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1,256 posts

212 months

Friday 8th July
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Desert Dragon said:
I understand the LT models are the track specials but out of 675 LT and 765LT but which one do PH owners of these beasts maybe goes down a choppy UK country road better? Do either flow with UK roads?
765 grounds less than 675, but 720 beats them both down a very bumpy road. As demonstrated on a recent 32 McLaren fast drive in the far North of England and Southern Scotland.

But all super series cars cope surprisingly well with bad surfaces, thanks to their hydraulic suspension.

That's VERY bumpy roads. On slightly bumpy, average or smooth roads, all the LT cars are perfectly at home.

Bispal

1,238 posts

132 months

Saturday 9th July
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Desert Dragon said:
I understand the LT models are the track specials but out of 675 LT and 765LT but which one do PH owners of these beasts maybe goes down a choppy UK country road better? Do either flow with UK roads?
I can't speak for the 765LT as never driven one but the 675LT rides very well on bumpy roads better than my Exige, MX5 and Boxster. On very poor roads it will occasionally bottom out but it has under body protection and that's what scrapes, in 9k miles I have heard plenty of scrapes but never had any damage as the protection takes it all. A good trick on bumpy roads is to go against instinct and put the car in sport instead of normal. The harder suspension means it bottoms out less as less suspension travel. With the lift up, available to 39mph on both axles, it will go over anything, so on a really bad road where you wouldn't want to go any faster anyway its actually no problem. On a flowing UK B road its supreme, soaking up the bumps, utterly composed and with tons of feedback. Still the best car I have ever driven which is why I never intend to sell it :-)





LotusJas

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1,256 posts

212 months

Saturday 9th July
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Bispal said:
With the lift up, available to 39mph on both axles,
Lift only operates on front axle, not both axles.

Agree about super series suspension, which is extremely good.

But on extremely bumpy roads, non-LT cars are better than the 675/765. Not the kinds of roads any of us really want to go v fast on anyway, as it’s a horrible feeling when the car grounds.

Bispal

1,238 posts

132 months

Saturday 9th July
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LotusJas said:
Lift only operates on front axle, not both axles.

Agree about super series suspension, which is extremely good.

But on extremely bumpy roads, non-LT cars are better than the 675/765. Not the kinds of roads any of us really want to go v fast on anyway, as it’s a horrible feeling when the car grounds.
675LT raises front and rear axles, I assume you mean 765LT only does front? You can basically go farming in a 675LT

Wheelspinning

356 posts

11 months

Saturday 9th July
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LotusJas said:
Bispal said:
With the lift up, available to 39mph on both axles,
Lift only operates on front axle, not both axles.

Agree about super series suspension, which is extremely good.

But on extremely bumpy roads, non-LT cars are better than the 675/765. Not the kinds of roads any of us really want to go v fast on anyway, as it’s a horrible feeling when the car grounds.
I am guessing the 720 is different as my 650 and current 675 had / has lift front and rear.

LotusJas

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1,256 posts

212 months

Saturday 9th July
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Bispal said:
675LT raises front and rear axles
I didn't know that. Thanks.

I did use the lift in a 675LT, but hadn't realised it was lifting both axles.

Yes, 720/765 only lift the front.

12pack

1,403 posts

149 months

Monday 11th July
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On a (slightly) related note, I’ve had both front coils springs broken and replaced under warranty on my 650. Since I got an Atom for track, the 650 takes the brunt of the bumpy road hammering now.

Desert Dragon

1,246 posts

65 months

Monday 11th July
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Cheers Phers. The way this one had been specified is beautiful. I imagine half the fun was speccing all the little bits we can't see in the pics. Looks like a UFO.

Desert Dragon

1,246 posts

65 months

Monday 11th July
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The build quality looks next level too compared Mcl regular cars I must say. They've really put some effort into these 765 LT Its especially this one. Well done McLaren. The carbon bonnet cloud9

LotusJas

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1,256 posts

212 months

Tuesday 12th July
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Desert Dragon said:
The way this one had been specified is beautiful. I imagine half the fun was speccing all the little bits we can't see in the pics. Looks like a UFO.


The build quality looks next level too compared Mcl regular cars I must say. They've really put some effort into these 765 LT Its especially this one. Well done McLaren. The carbon bonnet cloud9
Thank you. Yes, there are a lot of little details that become apparent when seen in real life, and also a lot of under the skin things - particularly to reduce weight even more.

I give MSO huge credit for their patience, given the numerous tweaks and re-renders over the 8 month spec period. I had a different render or view perspective on my PC virtually every day during those 8 months as I tweaked it. Sometime just moving a line by 1mm.

MSO took apart a fully built and road ready car, and re-built it to a great extent. Just because of how extensive the changes were.

There will be a 12 page lead article of Issue 2 of DU magazine on the story behind MSO 1.

Just posting an image here without a link, in case a link is not permitted on PH.