Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?
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I had a VY 650S before the VR GT. The 650S was whilst living in the Middle East and hence I’d get the pops and sparkles in the direct sunlight everyday. It’s very light dependent (I guess like all Volcano colours) and is probably my favourite of the bunch. VR seemed more appropriate for the GT/UK though.
As I'm seriously looking for a 570S I've just read the previous 15 pages of post! - a great informative read... Especially the critique/history of cars that have been on sale. Plus of course the weekly round-up of prices 
I've driven a friends 12C a few times, and absolutely awesome. Yet to drive a 570S, but my research tells to expect a very similar experience, ie. speed/handling in real world (not on track, or someone that can drive them at ten 10ths), even without the active suspension and air.
Interesting to see 12Cs and 570S now at similar prices - obviously these are early 570S coupe which are my budget range.
I've driven a friends 12C a few times, and absolutely awesome. Yet to drive a 570S, but my research tells to expect a very similar experience, ie. speed/handling in real world (not on track, or someone that can drive them at ten 10ths), even without the active suspension and air.
Interesting to see 12Cs and 570S now at similar prices - obviously these are early 570S coupe which are my budget range.
Edited by mick43 on Thursday 8th December 13:19
mick43 said:
As I'm seriously looking for a 570S I've just read the previous 15 pages of post! - a great informative read... Especially the critique/history of cars that have been on sale. Plus of course the weekly round-up of prices
I've driven a friends 12C a few times, and absolutely awesome. Yet to drive a 570S, but my research tells to expect a very similar experience, ie. speed/handling in real world (not on track, or someone that can drive them at ten 10ths), even without the active suspension and air.
Interesting to see 12Cs and 570S now at similar prices - obviously these are early 570S coupe which are my budget range.
12C and don't shoot me it more like a GT missile type class car, extremely fast and very comfortable, also remember a 650 is an updated 12C, so the 650 is also exceptional value.I've driven a friends 12C a few times, and absolutely awesome. Yet to drive a 570S, but my research tells to expect a very similar experience, ie. speed/handling in real world (not on track, or someone that can drive them at ten 10ths), even without the active suspension and air.
Interesting to see 12Cs and 570S now at similar prices - obviously these are early 570S coupe which are my budget range.
Edited by mick43 on Thursday 8th December 13:19
For me Sports and Super series drive quite different, I love cars to handle how you expect a car to handle, but I also love gokarts, as such I far prefer the sports series, but the super series make going fast even easier, for me too easy.
To be able to buy a 650 or 570 for under 100k is amazing to be honest as they are superb cars and now bargains.
Anyone coming to Mclarens will be in the same boat with the same choices at that budget Mick, i was last year.
I discounted the 12c due to its age and first foray into mass production and personally i preferred the more modern styling of the 650s/570s.
I think simply for me, the newer car proved to tempting an option for vaguley the same price, i prefer the cabin, monocell 11, cheaper warranty and overall styling of the 570s, to me it just seems overall more modern.
I dont feel i missed out on the hydraulic cross linked suspension as tbf, all of us are familiar with anti roll bars, so unless youve experienced it for some time, you probbaly wont miss what youve never had, i will save that one for when i can afford a 720s.
All great cars though, no wrong choice to make, go drive them and see which works for you and enjoy, my ownership has been thoroghly enjoyable.
I discounted the 12c due to its age and first foray into mass production and personally i preferred the more modern styling of the 650s/570s.
I think simply for me, the newer car proved to tempting an option for vaguley the same price, i prefer the cabin, monocell 11, cheaper warranty and overall styling of the 570s, to me it just seems overall more modern.
I dont feel i missed out on the hydraulic cross linked suspension as tbf, all of us are familiar with anti roll bars, so unless youve experienced it for some time, you probbaly wont miss what youve never had, i will save that one for when i can afford a 720s.
All great cars though, no wrong choice to make, go drive them and see which works for you and enjoy, my ownership has been thoroghly enjoyable.
Davyt said:
I think the bright vivid colours can be in and out of fashion within a relatively small timescale, perhaps the original purchases choose something more mundane with this in mind? Back in the 90’s I had a lovely yellow 300zx tt, you should of seen the flies it attracted in spring/summer..
A pearlescent yellow Nissan 300ZX twin turbo did you say?!I had a UK manual one of them from '93 to '95.
What a car that was back in the day.
That was the start of my love of wild colours.
Wheelspinning said:
A pearlescent yellow Nissan 300ZX twin turbo did you say?!
I had a UK manual one of them from '93 to '95.
What a car that was back in the day.
That was the start of my love of wild colours.
Bought from a chap in Swansea, reg A15AWN, guy had a timber/diy place hence the plate, loved the car, had it almost 4 years, running approx 350bhp which was plenty back in those days,, the guy I sold it to’s mate drove it home for some reason, smashed it up about 1 mile away from our house !!I had a UK manual one of them from '93 to '95.
What a car that was back in the day.
That was the start of my love of wild colours.
Gibbo205 said:
12C and don't shoot me it more like a GT missile type class car, extremely fast and very comfortable, also remember a 650 is an updated 12C, so the 650 is also exceptional value.
For me Sports and Super series drive quite different, I love cars to handle how you expect a car to handle, but I also love gokarts, as such I far prefer the sports series, but the super series make going fast even easier, for me too easy.
+1For me Sports and Super series drive quite different, I love cars to handle how you expect a car to handle, but I also love gokarts, as such I far prefer the sports series, but the super series make going fast even easier, for me too easy.
Weekly Market Update since Sat 3rd Dec:
18 new listings and 12 cars sold, so the number of cars on the market has increased again this week.
The 570S Coupes went for between £86k and £96k depending on age, consistent with previous weeks, early 2016/17 cars either side of £90k, later cars a little more.
The 'cheapest on the market' £76.5k metallic grey GT at Sytner popped up on AT and disappeared. Ascot finally sold their Vermillion Red 2019 GT, last advertised at £108k having cut £5k off the price. The 2018+ GTs with the ceramics do seem to fetch over £100k from McLaren dealers.
The 2019 540C which sold was initially listed at £100k, was quickly cut to £90k and now sold, perhaps showing where they sit vs the 570s.
The orange Spider apparently sold by McLaren Hatfield, last seen at £123k, was really top of the market so perhaps slightly surprising.
The reductions include six cars at McLaren franchised dealers, as Davyt spotted; they're mostly the usual £2-3k off. The biggest reduction is at the bottom of the market, a 2016 Vermillion red car at John Harrison now the cheapest on offer at £78k.
Of the new listings I noticed this Volcano Orange 2017 GT, interesting in that the seller states he only bought it from GVE a month or two and 500 miles ago. GVE had it up for £90k, he advertised at £95k but has now cut it to £93k, and in the text states "If you message asking for a Buy it now lower than £85k I won’t reply", suggesting where his bottom line may lie.
My car of the week is another new listing, this 2017 Fistral Blue 570S at McLaren Brum
A good spec with lift, carbon interior, sports exhaust, soft close doors, the lightest wheels and a great colour scheme, plus sub 5k miles, perhaps make it attractive value at just under £100k.
Overall same story I think, some cars are moving, mostly those at attractive prices (think 'draining from the bottom'), but cars of the right age/spec/mileage can still command a healthier sum.
Disclaimers as usual, prices and 'sold' are only those seen on daily observations of AT.
Note - I'll post the Sold, New and Reduced listings as separate posts as they now include pics, so are each a bit lengthy.
18 new listings and 12 cars sold, so the number of cars on the market has increased again this week.
The 570S Coupes went for between £86k and £96k depending on age, consistent with previous weeks, early 2016/17 cars either side of £90k, later cars a little more.
The 'cheapest on the market' £76.5k metallic grey GT at Sytner popped up on AT and disappeared. Ascot finally sold their Vermillion Red 2019 GT, last advertised at £108k having cut £5k off the price. The 2018+ GTs with the ceramics do seem to fetch over £100k from McLaren dealers.
The 2019 540C which sold was initially listed at £100k, was quickly cut to £90k and now sold, perhaps showing where they sit vs the 570s.
The orange Spider apparently sold by McLaren Hatfield, last seen at £123k, was really top of the market so perhaps slightly surprising.
The reductions include six cars at McLaren franchised dealers, as Davyt spotted; they're mostly the usual £2-3k off. The biggest reduction is at the bottom of the market, a 2016 Vermillion red car at John Harrison now the cheapest on offer at £78k.
Of the new listings I noticed this Volcano Orange 2017 GT, interesting in that the seller states he only bought it from GVE a month or two and 500 miles ago. GVE had it up for £90k, he advertised at £95k but has now cut it to £93k, and in the text states "If you message asking for a Buy it now lower than £85k I won’t reply", suggesting where his bottom line may lie.
My car of the week is another new listing, this 2017 Fistral Blue 570S at McLaren Brum
A good spec with lift, carbon interior, sports exhaust, soft close doors, the lightest wheels and a great colour scheme, plus sub 5k miles, perhaps make it attractive value at just under £100k.
Overall same story I think, some cars are moving, mostly those at attractive prices (think 'draining from the bottom'), but cars of the right age/spec/mileage can still command a healthier sum.
Disclaimers as usual, prices and 'sold' are only those seen on daily observations of AT.
Note - I'll post the Sold, New and Reduced listings as separate posts as they now include pics, so are each a bit lengthy.
Sold Cars (12)
| Model | Last Price | Year | Mileage | Ad Date | Seller | Pic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 540C | £89,990 | 2019 | 6,000 miles | 04 Nov | Autocentre (U.K.) Limited |  |
| 570S | £85,991 | 2016 | 17,600 miles | 06 Dec | Scott Hardy Ltd |  |
| 570S | £89,000 | 2017 | 16,700 miles | 22 Nov | Mclaren Manchester |  |
| 570S | £94,995 | 2018 | 27,000 miles | 03 Dec | Elm Motor Company |  |
| 570S | £95,990 | 2018 | 12,540 miles | 23 Jun | Redline Specialist Cars |  |
| 570GT | £76,500 | 2016 | 28,923 miles | 27 Oct | Sytner Tamworth BMW |  |
| 570GT | £89,000 | 2017 | 18,100 miles | 17 Nov | Mclaren Manchester |  |
| 570GT | £107,950 | 2019 | 8,351 miles | 28 Apr | Mclaren Ascot |  |
| 600LT | £148,995 | 2020 | 5,265 miles | 10 Nov | Hampshire Classics Ltd |  |
| 600LT | £165,995 | 2020 | 1,670 miles | 27 Oct | Nick Cartwright Specialist Cars LTD |  |
| 570S Spider | £107,995 | 2018 | 12,000 miles | 18 Nov | LEE GAME PRESTIGE LTD |  |
| 570S Spider | £122,900 | 2019 | 10,190 miles | 12 Oct | Grange Mclaren Hatfield |  |
New Listings (18)
| Model | Price | Year | Mileage | Seller | Pic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 540C | £89,995 | 2018 | 18,500 miles | Thorney Motorsport |  ad |
| 540C | £89,999 | 2018 | 20,500 miles | Noya Motor Group |  ad |
| 540C | £96,495 | 2019 | 11,004 miles | Tangelo |  ad |
| 570S | £81,995 | 2017 | 15,000 miles | Private seller |  ad |
| 570S | £86,949 | 2016 | 23,000 miles | Platinum Marques |  ad |
| 570S | £99,850 | 2017 | 4,467 miles | McLaren Birmingham |  ad |
| 570S | £109,950 | 2019 | 9,098 miles | Redline Specialist Cars |  ad |
| 570GT | £79,995 | 2017 | 16,800 miles | BAM Specialist Cars |  ad |
| 570GT | £92,750 | 2017 | 9,500 miles | Private seller |  ad |
| 600LT | £149,898 | 2020 | 4,900 miles | Adaptive Vehicle Solutions Limited |  ad |
| 600LT | £165,995 | 2020 | 1,670 miles | Nick Cartwright Specialist Cars LTD | ad |
| 570S Spider | £105,950 | 2019 | 24,160 miles | Mclaren Ascot |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £105,995 | 2018 | 19,000 miles | Goldstone Cars Limited |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £112,900 | 2017 | 9,870 miles | Grange Mclaren Hatfield |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £113,000 | 2018 | 17,000 miles | Mclaren Manchester |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £114,990 | 2018 | 8,885 miles | McLaren Leeds | ad |
| 570S Spider | £115,000 | 2018 | 9,700 miles | Mclaren Manchester |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £117,000 | 2019 | 14,500 miles | Mclaren Manchester |  ad |
Price Changes (14)
| Model | Old Price | New Price | Year | Mileage | Seller | Pic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 570S | £85,000 | £77,995 | 2016 | 20,018 miles | John Harrison (Lowdham) Limited |  ad |
| 570S | £85,900 | £82,900 | 2016 | 20,865 miles | Gve London Ltd |  ad |
| 570S | £87,995 | £83,995 | 2016 | 16,000 miles | Affordable Prestige Cars |  ad |
| 570S | £94,885 | £89,985 | 2019 | 23,000 miles | Kingston Cars13 Limited |  ad |
| 570S | £96,999 | £92,999 | 2017 | 8,081 miles | Noya Motor Group |  ad |
| 570S | £99,995 | £94,995 | 2017 | 26,000 miles | Aspire International Sourcing Ltd |  ad |
| 570S | £96,088 | £95,090 | 2017 | 8,899 miles | The Car Lounge by Lowton Motor Company |  ad |
| 570S | £102,850 | £99,850 | 2018 | 8,671 miles | McLaren Birmingham |  ad |
| 570GT | £81,495 | £79,995 | 2017 | 27,000 miles | Veloce Auto |  ad |
| 600LT | £142,000 | £139,000 | 2019 | 9,100 miles | Mclaren Manchester |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £113,000 | £111,000 | 2018 | 11,600 miles | Mclaren Manchester |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £118,950 | £114,950 | 2018 | 3,058 miles | Mclaren London |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £122,000 | £119,000 | 2019 | 9,620 miles | Mclaren Manchester |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £121,950 | £119,950 | 2020 | 10,562 miles | Mclaren London |  ad |
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