Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?

[akadk]

AB car sold?

[AtomWhore]

Seems great value

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13863586?u...

[akadk]

Buyer beware

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303215...

Grade 3

[Mwn11]

akadk said:

AB car sold?

Damn that was a nice one! Hope the owner is on here

[samoht]

Sold, New and Price Changes between 2023-03-18 and 2023-03-26

Sold Cars (19)

Model	Last Price	Year	Mileage	Ad Date	Seller	Pic
540C	£78,995	2017	12,900 miles	03 Mar	Private seller
540C	£82,995	2018	28,000 miles	01 Jul	HF Performance Ltd
570S	£77,995	2016	20,018 miles	31 Jan	John Harrison (Lowdham) Limited
570S	£84,995	2016	13,000 miles	23 Mar	Private seller
570S	£91,000	2017	2,258 miles	11 Feb	Private seller
570S	£115,950	2020	2,840 miles	21 Nov	Hendy Performance Poole
570GT	£91,650	2019	31,000 miles	02 Oct	FTC Prestige & Performance Cars
570GT	£99,990	2019	14,863 miles	18 Nov	McLaren Leeds
570GT	£102,950	2018	14,430 miles	03 Feb	Mclaren Ascot
570GT	£104,850	2019	6,394 miles	01 Sep	McLaren Birmingham
600LT	£134,950	2019	7,168 miles	03 Nov	Romans International
600LT	£138,950	2019	9,800 miles	08 Dec	McLaren New Forest
600LT	£138,950	2019	7,177 miles	15 Feb	Mclaren London
600LT	£139,990	2019	7,885 miles	13 Aug	McLaren Leeds
600LT	£165,000	2018	5,000 miles	06 Feb	Usedcarnetwork.Co.Uk
570S Spider	£109,950	2018	10,000 miles	02 Dec	Thorney Motorsport
570S Spider	£114,950	2018	12,000 miles	13 Jan	Thorney Motorsport
600LT Spider	£146,990	2020	12,644 miles	07 Mar	McLaren Glasgow
600LT Spider	£159,991	2020	14,142 miles	14 Mar	Scott Hardy Ltd

New Listings (19)

Model	Price	Year	Mileage	Seller	Pic
540C	£83,995	2018	21,233 miles	CarSynergy-UK	ad
540C	£84,995	2017	13,000 miles	Polo Prestige	ad
570S	£80,495	2016	43,000 miles	Private seller	ad
570S	£90,950	2016	10,600 miles	H Specialist Cars Ltd	ad
570S	£129,995	2019	7,500 miles	Arun Prestige Ltd	ad
570GT	£89,950	2017	14,730 miles	Thorney Motorsport	ad
570GT	£96,500	2017	6,400 miles	Hillmoren	ad
570GT	£99,990	2020	10,000 miles	Sascron Car Supermarket	ad
570GT	£99,995	2017	4,225 miles	PREMIER GT LIMITED	ad
600LT	£143,000	2020	13,100 miles	Mclaren Manchester	ad
600LT	£149,990	2020	6,838 miles	McLaren Glasgow	ad
600LT	£157,995	2020	4,478 miles	SCUDERIA PRESTIGE AUTOMOBILE LTD	ad
570S Spider	£115,000	2019	14,693 miles	Private seller	ad
570S Spider	£116,900	2017	6,170 miles	Grange Mclaren Hatfield	ad
570S Spider	£119,950	2019	7,450 miles	Mclaren London	ad
570S Spider	£120,000	2019	7,000 miles	Mclaren Manchester	ad
570S Spider	£121,900	2019	3,900 miles	Grange Mclaren Hatfield	ad
570S Spider	£122,950	2020	6,452 miles	Mclaren London	ad
600LT Spider	£154,850	2019	4,309 miles	McLaren Birmingham	ad

Price Changes (10)

Model	Old Price	New Price	Year	Mileage	Seller	Pic
540C	£77,995	£74,994	2016	28,560 miles	Anchor Cars	ad
540C	£77,950	£76,950	2016	55,000 miles	Bournemouth Cars	ad
540C	£88,450	£83,500	2016	12,250 miles	Thorney Motorsport	ad
540C	£89,795	£84,995	2019	11,004 miles	Tangelo	ad
570S	£83,000	£81,000	2016	32,700 miles	Private seller	ad
570S	£89,990	£87,990	2016	12,000 miles	Burford Car Sales	ad
600LT	£151,900	£141,900	2019	5,600 miles	Anthony James Cars Ltd	ad
600LT	£159,990	£157,990	2019	1,500 miles	Hills Prestige	ad
600LT Spider	£144,489	£146,980	2019	11,798 miles	Sterling Finance	ad
600LT Spider	£157,990	£156,990	2020	6,665 miles	Acklam Car Centre Ltd	ad

[ex-devonpaul]

Thanks for the update again.

I wonder if the 540 at Polo is the Private one that has gone from AT?

[TBCTBC]

Thanks for the update.

Interesting to see a Thorney car reduced, whichconsidering they come fully checked and ready for a year's worth of hassle free motoring, is a little unexpected.

Might be the bespoke white paintwork with decals?

[samoht]

TBCTBC said:

Thanks for the update.

Interesting to see a Thorney car reduced, which considering they come fully checked and ready for a year's worth of hassle free motoring, is a little unexpected.

Might be the bespoke white paintwork with decals?

IMO £88k for a 2016 540C is well over the odds, that budget will get you into almost half the 570Ss on the market. No lift mentioned, no interior carbon/extended paddles. That's before you get into the subjective issue of whether you want your supercar in refrigerator white, or the aftermarket add-ons.

The 540C makes sense if it gets you into a Sports Series for less, or it gets you a newer car for the same money than a 570. With New Forest offering an approved used white 570S for £85k, paying more for less doesn't stack up.

[andymc]

a 570 went through Manheim Leeds this morning, entered by Leeds Mclaren, didn't hit the reserve

[Davyt]

[quote=TBCTBC]Thanks for the update.

Interesting to see a Thorney car reduced, whichconsidering they come fully checked and ready for a year's worth of hassle free motoring, is a little unexpected.

Might be the bespoke white paintwork with decals?[/quote

i think the ticket price only provides 3 months of warranty cover with the option to extend to 12 months £££..

[samoht]

andymc said:

a 570 went through Manheim Leeds this morning, entered by Leeds Mclaren, didn't hit the reserve

Am I right that buyers don't get much chance to inspect the car at such an auction? I'd be thinking, a tiny bit of bubbling paint here, a hairline crack there, a drop of oil underneath and the car could easily cost another ten, twenty grand to get into a saleable condition, so buying a McLaren from auction like that would seem very risky.

[andymc]

samoht said:

andymc said:

a 570 went through Manheim Leeds this morning, entered by Leeds Mclaren, didn't hit the reserve

Am I right that buyers don't get much chance to inspect the car at such an auction? I'd be thinking, a tiny bit of bubbling paint here, a hairline crack there, a drop of oil underneath and the car could easily cost another ten, twenty grand to get into a saleable condition, so buying a McLaren from auction like that would seem very risky.

it had full Mc history but there must be something up as why aren't Leeds retailing it? "Price range" cars are good sellers it seems, you could have a good look around it and make your own mind up.

[Penrhyn]

samoht said:

andymc said:

a 570 went through Manheim Leeds this morning, entered by Leeds Mclaren, didn't hit the reserve

Am I right that buyers don't get much chance to inspect the car at such an auction? I'd be thinking, a tiny bit of bubbling paint here, a hairline crack there, a drop of oil underneath and the car could easily cost another ten, twenty grand to get into a saleable condition, so buying a McLaren from auction like that would seem very risky.

Jeez that car has to be suspect.

l assume Mclaren proper will still cover the bodywork, everything else not. Why are they selling by auction really is a worry.

[PinkHouse]

Low mileage 600LT on CC. Could be an accurate barometer of where the market is now
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-mclaren-6...

[justin220]

PinkHouse said:

Low mileage 600LT on CC. Could be an accurate barometer of where the market is now
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-mclaren-6...

That's absolutely stunning!

[CharlesElliott]

PinkHouse said:

Low mileage 600LT on CC. Could be an accurate barometer of where the market is now
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-mclaren-6...

With dealers very keen to buy cars at the moment (esp 600LT), it will be interesting to see what it goes for and whether that is more than would be offered. I would expect a car like that to be bid at around 135K to the trade? 10K to prep / warranty it and then 20K margin?

ETA - I had assumed it was a Spider so my prices are ~15K over!

Edited by CharlesElliott on Tuesday 28th March 18:35

[PinkHouse]

justin220 said:

PinkHouse said:

Low mileage 600LT on CC. Could be an accurate barometer of where the market is now
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-mclaren-6...

That's absolutely stunning!

Agreed! Have you decided on whether you'll be moving on from your 540 this year and if so would you try CC?

[Streetbeat]

CharlesElliott said:

With dealers very keen to buy cars at the moment (esp 600LT), it will be interesting to see what it goes for and whether that is more than would be offered. I would expect a car like that to be bid at around 135K to the trade? 10K to prep / warranty it and then 20K margin?

With some nice coupes at below £140k even with main dealers, i reckon any indy dealer paying £135k, no matter how nice the colour is, will be taking a massive punt. I suspect a main dealer would have been offering £120-£125 tops.

[CharlesElliott]

Streetbeat said:

With some nice coupes at below £140k even with main dealers, i reckon any indy dealer paying £135k, no matter how nice the colour is, will be taking a massive punt. I suspect a main dealer would have been offering £120-£125 tops.

My mistake, I saw it as a Spider. I agree with you given it is a Coupe.

[samoht]

A supercar finance guy on The Intercooler podcast was saying that they'd done more business in Q1 this year than Q1 2022, so generally demand looks to be fairly strong despite the higher interest rates. He also said that they're seeing new car production recover after the chip shortages, which means a bigger supply of used cars coming to market as trade-ins. Also talked about seasonal demand, i.e. open cars being particularly wanted currently.

I guess that matches what we've been seeing here, with a fairly steady stream of cars being sold, and prices fairly steady. It's an open question whether new sales of the Artura, MC20 and possibly 296GTB will push more Sports Series cars into the market and what that'll do to values; I wouldn't anticipate any big movements in either direction this year personally as I don't see any big changes in either supply or demand.

PinkHouse said:

Low mileage 600LT on CC. Could be an accurate barometer of where the market is now
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-mclaren-6...

Being 3,500 miles & with the Senna seats and a good colour, I reckon if advertised by a dealer maybe £145-150k asking price.

Of course whatever it goes for on CC, need to add £7200 on top for the actual price.