Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?
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Grey_Area said:
did they ever offer the MSO Titanium exhaust as an option on the 570GT?
They still do; it’s a £4.3k dealer fitted option.
That seems pretty decent value for an MSO Titanium exhaust especially if it is including fitting. They still do; it’s a £4.3k dealer fitted option.
I would have thought it would be a lot more factoring in the 'McLaren tax' and premium you inevitably pay to keep the car OEM. Looking at other titanium aftermarket options like Akrapovic etc they seem to be similar price if not more money (and that is not fitted).
Edited by BlackR8 on Friday 31st March 16:43
BlackR8 said:
Grey_Area said:
did they ever offer the MSO Titanium exhaust as an option on the 570GT?
They still do; it’s a £4.3k dealer fitted option.
That seems pretty decent value for an MSO Titanium exhaust especially if it is including fitting. They still do; it’s a £4.3k dealer fitted option.
I would have thought it would be a lot more factoring in the 'McLaren tax' and premium you inevitably pay to keep the car OEM. Looking at other titanium aftermarket options like Akrapovic etc they seem to be similar price if not more money (and that is not fitted).
Edited by BlackR8 on Friday 31st March 16:43
targarama said:
BlackR8 said:
Grey_Area said:
It’s a fully fitted vat included price; and does make a serious difference imho.
Sounds like a great deal.
Looks very smart. I'm sure the weather will be looking warmer and drier soon.Cars sold, newly listed and with price changes since last Sunday 26th March
25 cars sold, which feels like a lot. More than half of the 600LT Spiders which were available last weekend are now gone, for instance. Average asking prices for both coupe and spider 600LTs are on the up (which might be as simple as the cheaper cars having been bought, hence the average prices for remaining cars are higher than before). May just be a blip, dunno.
Sold Cars (25)
New Listings (9)
Price Changes (8)
25 cars sold, which feels like a lot. More than half of the 600LT Spiders which were available last weekend are now gone, for instance. Average asking prices for both coupe and spider 600LTs are on the up (which might be as simple as the cheaper cars having been bought, hence the average prices for remaining cars are higher than before). May just be a blip, dunno.
Sold Cars (25)
| Model | Last Price | Year | Mileage | Ad Date | Seller | Pic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 540C | £84,995 | 2019 | 11,004 miles | 07 Dec | Tangelo |  |
| 570S | £84,995 | 2016 | 19,988 miles | 23 Feb | McLaren New Forest |  |
| 570S | £84,995 | 2016 | 16,000 miles | 05 Sep | Affordable Prestige Cars |  |
| 570S | £86,949 | 2016 | 23,000 miles | 08 Dec | Platinum Marques |  |
| 570S | £88,950 | 2015 | 7,800 miles | 15 Mar | Promus Vehicles |  |
| 570S | £90,950 | 2017 | 18,000 miles | 07 Feb | ALASTAIR BOLS LIMITED |  |
| 570S | £92,995 | 2017 | 8,038 miles | 07 Mar | D P Vehicles Ltd |  |
| 570S | £94,995 | 2019 | 12,900 miles | 17 Jul | Private seller |  |
| 570S | £129,995 | 2019 | 7,500 miles | 03 Mar | Arun Prestige Ltd |  |
| 570GT | £83,995 | 2017 | 24,000 miles | 28 Oct | Precision Motor Group |  |
| 570GT | £96,990 | 2017 | 8,900 miles | 10 Feb | Grange Mclaren Hatfield |  |
| 570GT | £97,900 | 2019 | 9,545 miles | 06 Sep | Baytree Cars |  |
| 600LT | £142,000 | 2019 | 9,800 miles | 24 Jan | Mclaren Manchester |  |
| 570S Spider | £109,990 | 2018 | 14,250 miles | 06 Feb | McLaren Leeds | |
| 570S Spider | £114,490 | 2019 | 15,214 miles | 09 Jan | McLaren Glasgow | |
| 570S Spider | £114,490 | 2019 | 14,895 miles | 09 Jan | McLaren Glasgow | |
| 570S Spider | £114,950 | 2018 | 9,100 miles | 14 Mar | TOP 555 LIMITED |  |
| 570S Spider | £115,000 | 2018 | 9,700 miles | 05 Dec | Mclaren Manchester |  |
| 570S Spider | £119,000 | 2019 | 28,784 miles | 10 Mar | Berkeley Motors Limited |  |
| 600LT Spider | £149,900 | 2020 | 12,199 miles | 02 Nov | Gve London Ltd |  |
| 600LT Spider | £152,995 | 2020 | 10,700 miles | 21 Nov | Sedgley Group Limited |  |
| 600LT Spider | £154,850 | 2019 | 4,309 miles | 01 Mar | McLaren Birmingham |  |
| 600LT Spider | £159,950 | 2020 | 3,380 miles | 27 Mar | Mclaren Ascot |  |
| 600LT Spider | £164,995 | 2020 | 10,100 miles | 07 Mar | Divine Automotive Ltd |  |
| 600LT Spider | £174,950 | 2020 | 1,600 miles | 17 Sep | ALASTAIR BOLS LIMITED |  |
New Listings (9)
| Model | Price | Year | Mileage | Seller | Pic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 540C | £93,995 | 2017 | 4,000 miles | Hitchfields Ltd |  ad |
| 570S | £80,000 | 2016 | 13,500 miles | Private seller |  ad |
| 570S | £82,995 | 2016 | 32,000 miles | XLCR Vehicle Management Ltd |  ad |
| 570S | £89,995 | 2016 | 18,636 miles | Crystal Motor Company |  ad |
| 600LT | £166,995 | 2018 | 5,945 miles | SCUDERIA PRESTIGE AUTOMOBILE LTD |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £114,950 | 2018 | 8,020 miles | McLaren New Forest |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £125,850 | 2019 | 6,443 miles | McLaren Birmingham |  ad |
| 600LT Spider | £152,995 | 2020 | 10,000 miles | Sedgley Group Limited |  ad |
| 600LT Spider | £159,995 | 2020 | 7,851 miles | Amari Supercars (GB) |  ad |
Price Changes (8)
| Model | Old Price | New Price | Year | Mileage | Seller | Pic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 540C | £84,995 | £82,994 | 2017 | 24,700 miles | Romans Of St Albans |  ad |
| 540C | £85,000 | £84,000 | 2017 | 16,029 miles | Alistair Buchan |  ad |
| 540C | £85,098 | £84,098 | 2017 | 22,761 miles | Rdm Direct Ltd |  ad |
| 570S | £89,980 | £86,980 | 2017 | 7,560 miles | Dreamspec |  ad |
| 570S | £90,950 | £89,950 | 2016 | 10,600 miles | H Specialist Cars Ltd |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £99,500 | £97,450 | 2017 | 34,000 miles | Baytree Cars |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £114,988 | £109,988 | 2019 | 7,500 miles | themotoringhub.com |  ad |
| 570S Spider | £115,000 | £110,000 | 2019 | 14,693 miles | Private seller |  ad |
samoht said:
Cars sold, newly listed and with price changes since last Sunday 26th March
25 cars sold, which feels like a lot. More than half of the 600LT Spiders which were available last weekend are now gone, for instance. Average asking prices for both coupe and spider 600LTs are on the up (which might be as simple as the cheaper cars having been bought, hence the average prices for remaining cars are higher than before). May just be a blip, dunno.
Sold Cars (25)
New Listings (9)
Price Changes (8)
Thanks for the update, very interesting. I have also seen the number of McLarens for sale dropping so I guess more seem to be selling than coming onto the market right now. I have also noticed certainly the spiders are priced for more money than previously, I assume this is simply due to dealers probably expecting demand to pick up now that we have entered Spring. 25 cars sold, which feels like a lot. More than half of the 600LT Spiders which were available last weekend are now gone, for instance. Average asking prices for both coupe and spider 600LTs are on the up (which might be as simple as the cheaper cars having been bought, hence the average prices for remaining cars are higher than before). May just be a blip, dunno.
Sold Cars (25)
| Model | Last Price | Year | Mileage | Ad Date | Seller | Pic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 540C | £84,995 | 2019 | 11,004 miles | 07 Dec | Tangelo | |
| 570S | £84,995 | 2016 | 19,988 miles | 23 Feb | McLaren New Forest | |
| 570S | £84,995 | 2016 | 16,000 miles | 05 Sep | Affordable Prestige Cars | |
| 570S | £86,949 | 2016 | 23,000 miles | 08 Dec | Platinum Marques | |
| 570S | £88,950 | 2015 | 7,800 miles | 15 Mar | Promus Vehicles | |
| 570S | £90,950 | 2017 | 18,000 miles | 07 Feb | ALASTAIR BOLS LIMITED | |
| 570S | £92,995 | 2017 | 8,038 miles | 07 Mar | D P Vehicles Ltd | |
| 570S | £94,995 | 2019 | 12,900 miles | 17 Jul | Private seller | |
| 570S | £129,995 | 2019 | 7,500 miles | 03 Mar | Arun Prestige Ltd | |
| 570GT | £83,995 | 2017 | 24,000 miles | 28 Oct | Precision Motor Group | |
| 570GT | £96,990 | 2017 | 8,900 miles | 10 Feb | Grange Mclaren Hatfield | |
| 570GT | £97,900 | 2019 | 9,545 miles | 06 Sep | Baytree Cars | |
| 600LT | £142,000 | 2019 | 9,800 miles | 24 Jan | Mclaren Manchester | |
| 570S Spider | £109,990 | 2018 | 14,250 miles | 06 Feb | McLaren Leeds | |
| 570S Spider | £114,490 | 2019 | 15,214 miles | 09 Jan | McLaren Glasgow | |
| 570S Spider | £114,490 | 2019 | 14,895 miles | 09 Jan | McLaren Glasgow | |
| 570S Spider | £114,950 | 2018 | 9,100 miles | 14 Mar | TOP 555 LIMITED | |
| 570S Spider | £115,000 | 2018 | 9,700 miles | 05 Dec | Mclaren Manchester | |
| 570S Spider | £119,000 | 2019 | 28,784 miles | 10 Mar | Berkeley Motors Limited | |
| 600LT Spider | £149,900 | 2020 | 12,199 miles | 02 Nov | Gve London Ltd | |
| 600LT Spider | £152,995 | 2020 | 10,700 miles | 21 Nov | Sedgley Group Limited | |
| 600LT Spider | £154,850 | 2019 | 4,309 miles | 01 Mar | McLaren Birmingham | |
| 600LT Spider | £159,950 | 2020 | 3,380 miles | 27 Mar | Mclaren Ascot | |
| 600LT Spider | £164,995 | 2020 | 10,100 miles | 07 Mar | Divine Automotive Ltd | |
| 600LT Spider | £174,950 | 2020 | 1,600 miles | 17 Sep | ALASTAIR BOLS LIMITED | |
New Listings (9)
| Model | Price | Year | Mileage | Seller | Pic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 540C | £93,995 | 2017 | 4,000 miles | Hitchfields Ltd | ad |
| 570S | £80,000 | 2016 | 13,500 miles | Private seller | ad |
| 570S | £82,995 | 2016 | 32,000 miles | XLCR Vehicle Management Ltd | ad |
| 570S | £89,995 | 2016 | 18,636 miles | Crystal Motor Company | ad |
| 600LT | £166,995 | 2018 | 5,945 miles | SCUDERIA PRESTIGE AUTOMOBILE LTD | ad |
| 570S Spider | £114,950 | 2018 | 8,020 miles | McLaren New Forest | ad |
| 570S Spider | £125,850 | 2019 | 6,443 miles | McLaren Birmingham | ad |
| 600LT Spider | £152,995 | 2020 | 10,000 miles | Sedgley Group Limited | ad |
| 600LT Spider | £159,995 | 2020 | 7,851 miles | Amari Supercars (GB) | ad |
Price Changes (8)
| Model | Old Price | New Price | Year | Mileage | Seller | Pic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 540C | £84,995 | £82,994 | 2017 | 24,700 miles | Romans Of St Albans | ad |
| 540C | £85,000 | £84,000 | 2017 | 16,029 miles | Alistair Buchan | ad |
| 540C | £85,098 | £84,098 | 2017 | 22,761 miles | Rdm Direct Ltd | ad |
| 570S | £89,980 | £86,980 | 2017 | 7,560 miles | Dreamspec | ad |
| 570S | £90,950 | £89,950 | 2016 | 10,600 miles | H Specialist Cars Ltd | ad |
| 570S Spider | £99,500 | £97,450 | 2017 | 34,000 miles | Baytree Cars | ad |
| 570S Spider | £114,988 | £109,988 | 2019 | 7,500 miles | themotoringhub.com | ad |
| 570S Spider | £115,000 | £110,000 | 2019 | 14,693 miles | Private seller | ad |
If you look on AT and take away the car under offer and the one duplicated there are only 18 600lt’s for sale currently, numbers were double this a couple of months ago, anything new coming to market has done so with a decent price increase from a few months ago especially the spiders,,
For another perspective on value, here's median prices for 2016-18 570S coupes compared with median AT asking prices for cars of comparable performance and of the same years, in ascending order of price:
I'm using 0-100mph times just to show that these cars aren't that far apart in a straight line, and thus are reasonable to consider together - obviously there's far more to a car than a single straight line performance metric.
The GTR is obviously good value here, the other outlier is the R8 which seems to turn in quicker times than I'd imagined in Plus guise and is on a par with the McLaren. The other cars are either a bit or a lot more expensive, getting on for double the money for the Italian cars.
(FWIW removing the age restriction to look at all 650S Coupes, they come out at £92k median ask and ~5.6 secs 0-100).
I imagine one could find errors or holes in this dataset, however I do think the underlying point is valid, that the Sports Series represent strikingly good value at current prices for what they offer the driver.
| Model | Spec | 0-100 | Median Price |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nissan GTR | 6.9 | £80k | |
| McLaren 570S | S | 6.0 | £87k |
| Audi R8 | Plus | 5.9 | £89k |
| AMG GT | R | 6.8 | £111k |
| Porsche 911 Turbo | S | 6.2 | £120k |
| Ferrari 488 | GTB | 5.9 | £165k |
| Lambo Huracan | LP610-4 | 5.6 | £170k |
I'm using 0-100mph times just to show that these cars aren't that far apart in a straight line, and thus are reasonable to consider together - obviously there's far more to a car than a single straight line performance metric.
The GTR is obviously good value here, the other outlier is the R8 which seems to turn in quicker times than I'd imagined in Plus guise and is on a par with the McLaren. The other cars are either a bit or a lot more expensive, getting on for double the money for the Italian cars.
(FWIW removing the age restriction to look at all 650S Coupes, they come out at £92k median ask and ~5.6 secs 0-100).
I imagine one could find errors or holes in this dataset, however I do think the underlying point is valid, that the Sports Series represent strikingly good value at current prices for what they offer the driver.
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