600 LT's with carbon louvred wings yet no carbon exterior?
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The Senna seats add so much theatre to the car, I’ve done a few cars shows with mine this year, with the doors up people always come to talk about the seats.
Even non car people for some reason know about Senna seats and always comment about how thin the carbon fibre is, next question is how comfortable are they, the answer is always fabulous, they give you such a connection with the car especially when pressing on.
I am 6ft2 age 61 and can get in and out of them no problem at all, the only problem of getting out of them means the journey is over for another time, I have the touring version by the way.
Even non car people for some reason know about Senna seats and always comment about how thin the carbon fibre is, next question is how comfortable are they, the answer is always fabulous, they give you such a connection with the car especially when pressing on.
I am 6ft2 age 61 and can get in and out of them no problem at all, the only problem of getting out of them means the journey is over for another time, I have the touring version by the way.
I couldn't live with the Sennas I found them hard to get in and out of the car and pile inducingly firm to sit in. Went for the P1 fatboys. I saw Leeds have the grey Spider I nearly bought back in looks like its got 500 ish more miles on it but I'm sure its the same car. 162k Must have only been out a month.
They certainly aren't cars that sell easily especially in the current market. Scott Hardy sold a few when I was looking they seemed to be the only dealer that actually moved them when I was buying I actually missed 2 cars I would have bought.
You have to be careful with none Franchise as well as they will zap the warranty if they find out its passed through a dealer!
They certainly aren't cars that sell easily especially in the current market. Scott Hardy sold a few when I was looking they seemed to be the only dealer that actually moved them when I was buying I actually missed 2 cars I would have bought.
You have to be careful with none Franchise as well as they will zap the warranty if they find out its passed through a dealer!
RSbandit said:
The Abyss black paint is really stunning it has a blue green fleck through it, saw one in that colour at a Mcl dealer couple of months back...stunning when the sun hits it. Mc Glasgow have a MSO pure black spider which looks the nuts, comfort seats the negative point tho...has to be buckets or Sennas in an LT for me.
My previous McLaren had comfort seats which I thought were fantastic and perhaps the comfiest seats I have sat in.My current one had the P1s fitted and also a set of comforts; after a year I had them swapped, but immediately realised I had made a mistake...it felt like i was sitting on the car rather than in it and the P1s are even more comfy.
The weight difference between the P1s and comforts is also massive which is only noticeable when your lugging them about.
Gibbo205 said:
Good info on the seats.
So the P1 and Senna seats sit you a few inches lower in the cabin then?
Anyone know the weight differences?
Also is that true about McLaren voiding warranties on cars sold SOR via a third party dealer then?
Comfort seats are somewhere between 25-30kgSo the P1 and Senna seats sit you a few inches lower in the cabin then?
Anyone know the weight differences?
Also is that true about McLaren voiding warranties on cars sold SOR via a third party dealer then?
P1 are 10.5kg
Senna 8kg (4kg for the shell)
Extended warranty cannot be transferred if the car is sold through a non-franchise dealer. If it’s a private sale it can be transferred as long as the process is followed. Make sure you do it properly.
simon_j said:
Comfort seats are somewhere between 25-30kg
P1 are 10.5kg
Senna 8kg (4kg for the shell)
Extended warranty cannot be transferred if the car is sold through a non-franchise dealer. If it’s a private sale it can be transferred as long as the process is followed. Make sure you do it properly.
Thank you.P1 are 10.5kg
Senna 8kg (4kg for the shell)
Extended warranty cannot be transferred if the car is sold through a non-franchise dealer. If it’s a private sale it can be transferred as long as the process is followed. Make sure you do it properly.
Those weight differences in the seats probably don’t impact performance at all then.
But if P1 and Senna sit lower then I get how they I’ll give the driver a better feel of connection with the car.
So if I buy a car via a third party dealer on SOR I guess the only way to do it properly is that the original owner is present to do the exchange / paperwork etc?
Gibbo205 said:
Thank you.
Those weight differences in the seats probably don’t impact performance at all then.
But if P1 and Senna sit lower then I get how they I’ll give the driver a better feel of connection with the car.
So if I buy a car via a third party dealer on SOR I guess the only way to do it properly is that the original owner is present to do the exchange / paperwork etc?
And the lower seats give you more headroom with a helmet. There’s also more support at the sides.Those weight differences in the seats probably don’t impact performance at all then.
But if P1 and Senna sit lower then I get how they I’ll give the driver a better feel of connection with the car.
So if I buy a car via a third party dealer on SOR I guess the only way to do it properly is that the original owner is present to do the exchange / paperwork etc?
This is an extract from the Warranty document. It should be up to date but I can’t guarantee it’s the latest version. You’ll have to check.
Should you sell the Vehicle covered by this Warranty privately, the benefits of the unexpired portion of the Warranty may be transferred to the new owner, on payment of the applicable transfer fee. The transfer is subject to the approval of the Company and the following procedure and conditions being adhered to:
i) The transfer documentation is completed through a McLaren Retailer or Authorised Service Centre.
ii) The transfer is applied for within seven days of the date of sale and there is a minimum of three months-unexpired balance remaining on the Warranty.
iii) The Vehicle has been serviced at the appropriate time/mileage intervals in accordance with the manufacturer recommendations.
The Warranty cannot be transferred if the title transfer of the Vehicle passes through a person or entity other than the subsequent buyer or if the Vehicle is sold or traded to an individual or entity in the business of buying and selling Vehicles.
simon_j said:
Gibbo205 said:
Good info on the seats.
So the P1 and Senna seats sit you a few inches lower in the cabin then?
Anyone know the weight differences?
Also is that true about McLaren voiding warranties on cars sold SOR via a third party dealer then?
Comfort seats are somewhere between 25-30kgSo the P1 and Senna seats sit you a few inches lower in the cabin then?
Anyone know the weight differences?
Also is that true about McLaren voiding warranties on cars sold SOR via a third party dealer then?
P1 are 10.5kg
Senna 8kg (4kg for the shell)
Extended warranty cannot be transferred if the car is sold through a non-franchise dealer. If it’s a private sale it can be transferred as long as the process is followed. Make sure you do it properly.
Whilst 4 kg is crazy light, being more than half the weight of the P1 seats in the grand scheme of things it is not material.
The senna seat does noticeably hold you in better on the track especially under cornering g-force versus all other seat options.
The reason you’d buy them is for the visual impact. All that carbon really makes your interior stand out not just against other mclaren but against other supercars.
simon_j said:
And the lower seats give you more headroom with a helmet. There’s also more support at the sides.
This is an extract from the Warranty document. It should be up to date but I can’t guarantee it’s the latest version. You’ll have to check.
Should you sell the Vehicle covered by this Warranty privately, the benefits of the unexpired portion of the Warranty may be transferred to the new owner, on payment of the applicable transfer fee. The transfer is subject to the approval of the Company and the following procedure and conditions being adhered to:
i) The transfer documentation is completed through a McLaren Retailer or Authorised Service Centre.
ii) The transfer is applied for within seven days of the date of sale and there is a minimum of three months-unexpired balance remaining on the Warranty.
iii) The Vehicle has been serviced at the appropriate time/mileage intervals in accordance with the manufacturer recommendations.
The Warranty cannot be transferred if the title transfer of the Vehicle passes through a person or entity other than the subsequent buyer or if the Vehicle is sold or traded to an individual or entity in the business of buying and selling Vehicles.
^This is for the extended warranty only. The three year initial manufacturers warranty will always be with the car, until it's three years old.This is an extract from the Warranty document. It should be up to date but I can’t guarantee it’s the latest version. You’ll have to check.
Should you sell the Vehicle covered by this Warranty privately, the benefits of the unexpired portion of the Warranty may be transferred to the new owner, on payment of the applicable transfer fee. The transfer is subject to the approval of the Company and the following procedure and conditions being adhered to:
i) The transfer documentation is completed through a McLaren Retailer or Authorised Service Centre.
ii) The transfer is applied for within seven days of the date of sale and there is a minimum of three months-unexpired balance remaining on the Warranty.
iii) The Vehicle has been serviced at the appropriate time/mileage intervals in accordance with the manufacturer recommendations.
The Warranty cannot be transferred if the title transfer of the Vehicle passes through a person or entity other than the subsequent buyer or if the Vehicle is sold or traded to an individual or entity in the business of buying and selling Vehicles.
Sarnie said:
^This is for the extended warranty only. The three year initial manufacturers warranty will always be with the car, until it's three years old.
Good to know so I can essentially buy a car that is within three year manufacturer warranty and have no issues with the warranty been voided, I assume I just visit McLaren 30 days prior to the warranty expiring to have an extended warranty put on the car for 1 or 2 years?I'd like to know what happens when a situation like mine occurs, I have the original manufacturers warranty remaining until beginning of January next year but I also have the extended warranty already added for a further year.
I suppose if I sell it before the original warranty runs out then it transfers with the car without the strict rules but after January I have to play by the extended warranty rules. Seems odd to me but then already having an extended warranty many months before the expired standard warranty is unusual too.
I suppose if I sell it before the original warranty runs out then it transfers with the car without the strict rules but after January I have to play by the extended warranty rules. Seems odd to me but then already having an extended warranty many months before the expired standard warranty is unusual too.
Gibbo205 said:
Hi there
Test drove the Helios Orange at Baytree cars today and the car seems immaculate but noticed they have had it since November 21 and the warranty expire May 22.
FL19 AAJ is the registration and I wondered if anyone knew the car? It’s comfort seats with leather interior is this a major off putting for most potential buyers or is Helios Orange not a desirable colour?
If the price is right on the car, right spec etc and its just the seats, you could always source a set of P1's or Sennas, whilst they wont be cheap, it will definitely help you when you come to sell.Test drove the Helios Orange at Baytree cars today and the car seems immaculate but noticed they have had it since November 21 and the warranty expire May 22.
FL19 AAJ is the registration and I wondered if anyone knew the car? It’s comfort seats with leather interior is this a major off putting for most potential buyers or is Helios Orange not a desirable colour?
Crazy4557 said:
I'd like to know what happens when a situation like mine occurs, I have the original manufacturers warranty remaining until beginning of January next year but I also have the extended warranty already added for a further year.
I suppose if I sell it before the original warranty runs out then it transfers with the car without the strict rules but after January I have to play by the extended warranty rules. Seems odd to me but then already having an extended warranty many months before the expired standard warranty is unusual too.
I would imagine you would have to go through the same extended warranty transfer process regardless of when the car is sold.I suppose if I sell it before the original warranty runs out then it transfers with the car without the strict rules but after January I have to play by the extended warranty rules. Seems odd to me but then already having an extended warranty many months before the expired standard warranty is unusual too.
As I understand it, the extended warranty is a separate product, and would have to be specifically transferred to the new owner even if ownership of the car changed hands before it commenced.
I certainly wouldn't assume otherwise without checking, put it that way.
Sarnie said:
I've absolutely no idea why any would feel the need to tune a 600LT......it's one of the very best cars out there, out of the box...
Worth having a look at the Thorney video mechanical overview of all things McLaren - the long and the short of it is you would be crazy to have these engines tuned. Esp when the cost of a new engine (or rebuild) is considered!Peter
northpolar said:
Worth having a look at the Thorney video mechanical overview of all things McLaren - the long and the short of it is you would be crazy to have these engines tuned. Esp when the cost of a new engine (or rebuild) is considered!
Peter
A 600LT is literally one of the fastest cars on the road. I've no idea what anyone could be thinking in wanting it to be faster still.....it can only be the chav army wanting flames which McLaren dialled out pretty quickly.......Peter
Edited by Sarnie on Sunday 18th September 03:14
northpolar said:
Worth having a look at the Thorney video mechanical overview of all things McLaren - the long and the short of it is you would be crazy to have these engines tuned. Esp when the cost of a new engine (or rebuild) is considered!
Peter
Except Thorney tune them and offer a warranty with their tune, so not really accurate.Peter
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