No Artura love?!
Discussion
ChrisW. said:
1. I am the second owner of the car so have done nothing
2. When I taxed the car at purchase that's what the VED cost me
3. When I put in my reg. and V5 reference number into the DVLA system this is what it said the car would cost to tax ...
???
Its so odd Chris! I'm chuffed for you but these seems to be the facts:2. When I taxed the car at purchase that's what the VED cost me
3. When I put in my reg. and V5 reference number into the DVLA system this is what it said the car would cost to tax ...
???
The McLaren Artura's Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) depends on its registration date, but as a plug-in hybrid (PHEV) with low CO2 emissions (around 104-108g/km), it generally incurs the standard £195 annual rate after the first year, but also the £425 "premium" tax for the first five years due to its high price (over £40k), making it around £620 annually for the initial period, then £195.
What year is it mate?
D
Ken Figenus said:
ChrisW. said:
1. I am the second owner of the car so have done nothing
2. When I taxed the car at purchase that's what the VED cost me
3. When I put in my reg. and V5 reference number into the DVLA system this is what it said the car would cost to tax ...
???
Its so odd Chris! I'm chuffed for you but these seems to be the facts:2. When I taxed the car at purchase that's what the VED cost me
3. When I put in my reg. and V5 reference number into the DVLA system this is what it said the car would cost to tax ...
???
The McLaren Artura's Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) depends on its registration date, but as a plug-in hybrid (PHEV) with low CO2 emissions (around 104-108g/km), it generally incurs the standard £195 annual rate after the first year, but also the £425 "premium" tax for the first five years due to its high price (over £40k), making it around £620 annually for the initial period, then £195.
What year is it mate?
D
Just finished reading a book present - Kyle Fortune's "McLaren the road cars 2010 - 2024".
It provides a good overall picture of what the title suggests.
The Artura really represents "Gen 2" McLaren.
Out goes the M838 / M840 and Graziano box, and in comes a cleverly packaged 120deg V6 M630 Hybrid with 700hp at around 1400kg.
Other interesting differences are: Brake Steer remains, but now complemented with an electronic LSD. My perception is this adds finesse to the Yaw control process. The HVAC is now "electric" for Heating, and not coolant water heated, new one on me but likely enabled by the big battery. Rear suspension no longer double wishbone, but upper wishbone with two lower links, this doubles the lower hub pickup points which overcomes the single lower ball joint in the double wishbone setup, (imagine what that is subjected to in launch mode) plus it provides greater stability and geometric control. The electrical system is on a different level to the earlier cars, to cope with torque fill and all the control systems, must be pretty elaborate. Steering remains hydraulic. They skipped hydraulic Proactive Chassis. Dry sump is retained. Gearbox goes to 8 ratios, clever move as more ratio's makes torque fill easier. Reverse gear is obsolete with e-motor. Port injection is replaced with direct injection. Wheelbase reduces by 30mm v's 650S. A single windscreen wiper is retained. Swipe Door - not reinstated unfortunately. To my eye, perhaps their best looking car since MP4 12C launch.
In summary, a mass produced daily driver P1 ??
It provides a good overall picture of what the title suggests.
The Artura really represents "Gen 2" McLaren.
Out goes the M838 / M840 and Graziano box, and in comes a cleverly packaged 120deg V6 M630 Hybrid with 700hp at around 1400kg.
Other interesting differences are: Brake Steer remains, but now complemented with an electronic LSD. My perception is this adds finesse to the Yaw control process. The HVAC is now "electric" for Heating, and not coolant water heated, new one on me but likely enabled by the big battery. Rear suspension no longer double wishbone, but upper wishbone with two lower links, this doubles the lower hub pickup points which overcomes the single lower ball joint in the double wishbone setup, (imagine what that is subjected to in launch mode) plus it provides greater stability and geometric control. The electrical system is on a different level to the earlier cars, to cope with torque fill and all the control systems, must be pretty elaborate. Steering remains hydraulic. They skipped hydraulic Proactive Chassis. Dry sump is retained. Gearbox goes to 8 ratios, clever move as more ratio's makes torque fill easier. Reverse gear is obsolete with e-motor. Port injection is replaced with direct injection. Wheelbase reduces by 30mm v's 650S. A single windscreen wiper is retained. Swipe Door - not reinstated unfortunately. To my eye, perhaps their best looking car since MP4 12C launch.
In summary, a mass produced daily driver P1 ??
The immediacy of the heater on start-up is amazing. In fact, to my liking it goes a little over-temperature before settling back ... but maybe this is just inertia in the system ...
A recent Pistonheads review of the Artura suggested that when the HV charger of the car was connected, the system kept the engine pre-heated ... but maybe this was just their explanation for the electric heater providing immediate heat rather than continuous engine heat providing this from start-up ?
A recent Pistonheads review of the Artura suggested that when the HV charger of the car was connected, the system kept the engine pre-heated ... but maybe this was just their explanation for the electric heater providing immediate heat rather than continuous engine heat providing this from start-up ?
Yeah the HV is brilliant on it - better than my Taycan - and once you have an EV you cant look back and wait for the engine water to warm up 3 miles down the road
It also avoids all those long hoses front to rear and the dodgy Temu clips they used to use - this long fixed I hope!;)
I cant work out your VED Chris as mine is Oct 2024 - you got lucky mate
It also avoids all those long hoses front to rear and the dodgy Temu clips they used to use - this long fixed I hope!;)I cant work out your VED Chris as mine is Oct 2024 - you got lucky mate
Another advantage of the EV propulsion could also be how much better they do on ice. Would be nice to get out of my steep driveway which the 650 just can’t do when it’s iced over. Has to do with how much faster electric motors can adjust, compared to a petrol power train.
Been cruising past abandoned RR’s, just with PS4S’s on my Tesla MS on iced over Lake District lanes. Unbelievably, idiot owners have just left them square on the road.
Been cruising past abandoned RR’s, just with PS4S’s on my Tesla MS on iced over Lake District lanes. Unbelievably, idiot owners have just left them square on the road.
Ken Figenus said:
Yeah the HV is brilliant on it - better than my Taycan - and once you have an EV you cant look back and wait for the engine water to warm up 3 miles down the road It also avoids all those long hoses front to rear and the dodgy Temu clips they used to use - this long fixed I hope!;)
I cant work out your VED Chris as mine is Oct 2024 - you got lucky mate
Maybe until next time ... we shall see It also avoids all those long hoses front to rear and the dodgy Temu clips they used to use - this long fixed I hope!;)I cant work out your VED Chris as mine is Oct 2024 - you got lucky mate
GlynV8 said:
HIS LM said:
I thought Ascot had closed
Yes, they have closed the site at Ascot and moved the sales to their Bracknell site, where previously they did servicing and had the Stratstone Select showroom. Essentially just a couple of miles down the road.Seems strange writing that as I've moaned before about Porsche seeming more interested in the teaspoons the dealer has than the cars themselves but this was just too far the other way
Anyway, liked the Artura (felt i could get more comfortable in it than when i looked at the 570 a few years ago) so need to set something up to take one out.....
The evolution of the Artura ...
P1, the Speedtail, then Artura !!
But only the Artura has the big battery and electric range autonomy ...
I love mine ... 'did the drive back oop North last Thursday in the most torrential rain, and enjoyed it !!!
P1, the Speedtail, then Artura !!
But only the Artura has the big battery and electric range autonomy ...
I love mine ... 'did the drive back oop North last Thursday in the most torrential rain, and enjoyed it !!!
Edited by ChrisW. on Sunday 18th January 14:05
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