650S prices

[Streetbeat]

ChrisW. said:

everybody needs turnover and a car taking up space is costing every day ... particularly if it's "not selling".

maybe worse and a car sitting doing nothing is of absolutely no value to a dealer ... or an existing owner who wants to sell ...

And this is where a good dealer comes into their own with sor cars, its never going to be easy having that conversation with an owner that their pride and joy isnt worth what they thought it was or wanted, ive recently been there myself on both sides. Sounds like Autolounge have been doing their job well though, but should have been reduced peak season.

All depends on the owners willingness to accept the facts. I viewed a 720s mid season, a couple of offers later it was clear the owner wasnt budging, advertised for 6 months and still not sold or price reduced, obviously he didnt concur with the information being presented on what was available like for like from the dealer and took it off the market. He clearly didnt need or want to sell, seems strange as its only going to cost him more to keep it, servicing, warranty, probably finance payments, mot, insurance etc etc and clearly in this market its not going up to recoup some costs, only down, so loosing more money.

Once youve decided to sell its a no brainer to end up with the car that you dont want back in your garage, however painful that might be, as i found out with my AMG GTr,

[jerrytlr]

650S said:

I'm a 650s Coupe owner since April, in Amethyst with P1 seats.

Never looked at the patchwork roof version for the reasons given by others previously, but have huge respect for their rigidity.

These cars are on a different level to the Porsches and other brands that are available. Where they join bits of metal and employ engine developers, transmission developers, suspension & steering developers, body structure developers etc, and then amalgamate these functions to a point, McLaren took a clean sheet of paper, struck out metals in favour of a carbon tub for a rigid foundation, arranged the layout around it intelligently (who really wants a fuel tank in the front crumple zone) factored aero into the design day one, blended the mechanicals, electronics and controls into a whole that could deliver 200+ top speed with stability, 60mph in near 3 seconds with 2 wheel drive and an open diff. The list of achievement from a tiny operation goes on and on - they rightly called it the "and" car. Since 2011 their competitors have copied them as far as possible. Aero perhaps most of all but bhp / torque characteristics too. The original NSX had the same effect on the Italians, and they had to sit up too.

I have accepted 2 things, one is - lots of people just don't get it (McLaren engineering) and two is, for some weird reason, there are critics who apparently don't want them to succeed.
Autocar will go into raptures over a 992 GT3RS - the most basic 12C at a decade old is a better car!

McLaren management culture fell short not issuing paint codes etc, but these cars are something else to steer.

Nail....head! Brilliant post. They even made the interior feel special with zero bling needed... It's what happens when engineers do a clean sheet design.