Has anyone went from Mclaren into Porsche/Aston?
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12pack said:
I think you are quoting Chris Evan’s Daily Mail hearsay about Adrian Newey, and Clarkson know’s little about performance driving. As a competitive amateur racer, I prefer to drive well-engineered performance cars - sadly to me the V12V isn’t. Certainly beautiful and full of character. But take that gear lever as an example. Stunning - but placed too far back for fast changes. A previous FD RX7 and a current Atom are my references.
Anyway, I’m responding to the OP who was looking for opinions, and that was mine. As you said - looking at the cars from different points of view.
I think I’m just envious that you have both. I would love to add a 720 but I have nowhere to hide it.
Anyway, I’m responding to the OP who was looking for opinions, and that was mine. As you said - looking at the cars from different points of view.
I think I’m just envious that you have both. I would love to add a 720 but I have nowhere to hide it.
Edited by 12pack on Friday 29th November 13:00
12pack said:
Perhaps not relevant as I have 6sp manual V12 Vantage next to my 650s. Kept it because of the NA V12 and genuinely manual gearbox. But it’s really quite poor to drive. Terrible visibility, unnecessarily stiff and nose heavy. Rarely gets driven to the extent that I’m extending the service intervals ( not bothered about resale). While it may be a bit easier to get in and out of, and is perhaps more robust because of less complexity - it’s rarely my choice for a drive in my varied garage.
Interesting to hear, I love trying different cars and brands. Aston and Lambo are the 2 I haven't tried yet but I love the look and sound of a Vantage V12S. Currently in a 570GT. I don't necessarily daily my cars as I work from home mostly but I use them all year round whenever I feel like it, for me they are a daily. I was thinking of trying the V12S next but the 570 is razor sharp, super quick, yet comfortable enough to do some longer trips in, which I don't do alot of. I think it will be hard going from a Mclaren to something else in the same price/category range. Unless you go to something completely different and draw no comparisons.I owned a V12VS (with Sportshift 3 and the full performance pack, ie full titanium exhaust plus secondary cats removed) and a 600LT Spider at the same time.
As already mentioned, the Macca was in a different league dynamically BUT the Aston was just fabulous regarding theatre / drama with that engine / exhaust combination. Timing the upshifts with SS3 was also great fun.
As already mentioned, the Macca was in a different league dynamically BUT the Aston was just fabulous regarding theatre / drama with that engine / exhaust combination. Timing the upshifts with SS3 was also great fun.
If the weekend comes around and you don't fancy a drive because you can't be bothered cleaning it when you get back, or perhaps your partner (if you have one) finds it a little bit uncomfortable hitting all the potholes or you struggle to find a decent car park space or your a bit worried about the millage clocking up or a warning light popping up on the dash and the annual service cost are to pay for whether you use it or not then its time for a change. If the answer is no and your okay with all the above stick with it! If not get something more usable.……., more comfortable but still Sporty but not Super! I had a F430 for 8 years on my second 911 Turbo.
mogg said:
I owned a V12VS (with Sportshift 3 and the full performance pack, ie full titanium exhaust plus secondary cats removed) and a 600LT Spider at the same time.
As already mentioned, the Macca was in a different league dynamically BUT the Aston was just fabulous regarding theatre / drama with that engine / exhaust combination. Timing the upshifts with SS3 was also great fun.
Of course you are correct and perhaps I was overly harsh on the Vantage it had so much character and I loved owning it. It left me with alot of affection for Aston so much so that I recently bought a DBSS as a companion for my 600 …different to the Vantage yes but a nice package and great value now imo. As already mentioned, the Macca was in a different league dynamically BUT the Aston was just fabulous regarding theatre / drama with that engine / exhaust combination. Timing the upshifts with SS3 was also great fun.
I made the switch from 650s spider into a V12 Vantage, but have also now just sold that..
Very different cars and driving experiences obviously but they both felt an occasion / special. For me, the 650 was in a different league in just about every aspect of ownership but I suppose it depends on your use case.
Before both of the above I also had a 911 CSR (think poor man’s GT3) which I loved. A real GT3 or RS may well be the answer to more usable and still special occasion car, but having not ever driven or owned one I couldn’t confirm.
I’m currently without a ‘toy’ as the M3T covers so many bases but funnily enough my old 650 is currently for sale and I’m very tempted, still such amazing value and nothing else out there I can think of I’d rather have for the money
Very different cars and driving experiences obviously but they both felt an occasion / special. For me, the 650 was in a different league in just about every aspect of ownership but I suppose it depends on your use case.
Before both of the above I also had a 911 CSR (think poor man’s GT3) which I loved. A real GT3 or RS may well be the answer to more usable and still special occasion car, but having not ever driven or owned one I couldn’t confirm.
I’m currently without a ‘toy’ as the M3T covers so many bases but funnily enough my old 650 is currently for sale and I’m very tempted, still such amazing value and nothing else out there I can think of I’d rather have for the money
I am in the happy position of having a foot in both camps. In various ways.
I have a 720s which I have had and very much enjoyed for almost 4 years. That is going nowhere (metaphorically!). Ridiculously fast, brilliantly engineered and so reliable I feel very put out at having spent so much warrantying it. Prior to that I had a 12c for 2 years (also fantastic and led the way to the 720s).
My daily has moved during the McLaren era from an old Aston V8 Vantage (slow and so unreliable I returned it) to a RWD V8 F Type (largely undriveable, soft suspension even in sport mode - worst driver's car I've owned). Thereafter an AMG GTS (magnificent machine which handled superbly, looked and sounded great too) to a 992 Carrera S (extremely capable car but almost silent even with sports exhaust and lacking a sense of occasion) to my current steed - an Aston Martin DB11 V8. Which Im loving - in no small part due to that fantastic AMG v8 engine from the GTS which I adored. As good a no turbo lag due to the hot V configuration of the turbos. Combines that great torquey engine and its glorious sound with even better looks and a real sense of specialness. DB12 coming out has really helped get prices for the DB11 into better territory. And the fact that visually the DB12 is basically the DB11 with a new nose helps keep the DB11 looking contemporary.
I have a 720s which I have had and very much enjoyed for almost 4 years. That is going nowhere (metaphorically!). Ridiculously fast, brilliantly engineered and so reliable I feel very put out at having spent so much warrantying it. Prior to that I had a 12c for 2 years (also fantastic and led the way to the 720s).
My daily has moved during the McLaren era from an old Aston V8 Vantage (slow and so unreliable I returned it) to a RWD V8 F Type (largely undriveable, soft suspension even in sport mode - worst driver's car I've owned). Thereafter an AMG GTS (magnificent machine which handled superbly, looked and sounded great too) to a 992 Carrera S (extremely capable car but almost silent even with sports exhaust and lacking a sense of occasion) to my current steed - an Aston Martin DB11 V8. Which Im loving - in no small part due to that fantastic AMG v8 engine from the GTS which I adored. As good a no turbo lag due to the hot V configuration of the turbos. Combines that great torquey engine and its glorious sound with even better looks and a real sense of specialness. DB12 coming out has really helped get prices for the DB11 into better territory. And the fact that visually the DB12 is basically the DB11 with a new nose helps keep the DB11 looking contemporary.
Edited by AndM on Friday 6th December 12:23
Edited by AndM on Friday 6th December 12:25
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