Only buy from Thorney Motorsport?
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Chrisatronic said:
Bell & Colvill ARE McLaren Guildford, an official Service centre and approved used dealer (but not new dealer).
https://guildford.mclaren.com/
https://www.am-online.com/news/dealer-news/2020/07...
Ah fair play didn't realise they are mclaren as well. https://guildford.mclaren.com/
https://www.am-online.com/news/dealer-news/2020/07...
Edited by Chrisatronic on Wednesday 11th June 10:42
Chrisatronic said:
Bell & Colvill ARE McLaren Guildford, an official Service centre and approved used dealer (but not new dealer).
https://guildford.mclaren.com/
https://www.am-online.com/news/dealer-news/2020/07...
Around a year ago, there were a few comments on here that customer service had headed south when Darren (?) left. The new guy didn't last long either but sounds like it might be improving. https://guildford.mclaren.com/
https://www.am-online.com/news/dealer-news/2020/07...
Edited by Chrisatronic on Wednesday 11th June 10:42
I don't think I'd look anywhere else apart from Thorney, V or AB when buying a Mac, although appreciate there are good and bad dealers out there.
I've owned 2 McLarens, 10 years in total and over 30k miles. A lot of experiences with all sorts of people and other owners. This is the order I would proceed with if buying.
1. First check with Alastair Bols, see if he can get you the car you want. No-one preps a car like Alastair and his aftersales service is exemplary. He is always my no. 1 call, even if he can't get me the car I want.
2. Second call to Graham Davidson at Autolunge. He personally owns a few McLaren's and is a 'real' enthusiast. He also should be able to source a good car.
3. Buy privately with an inspection from V and transferable warranty, from an enthusiast long term owner.
4. McLaren dealer and negotiate warranty.
5. Don't buy from a non-McLaren specialist 'sportscar' garage (possibly with exception of Romans)
Whatever you buy get 'V' to conduct a PPI. No-one else, V know what they are doing. Definitely not a Mc dealer.
If you negotiate a Mc warranty, fine, service at McLaren until finished if you need to.
If you don't have a Mc warranty then service at V.
McLaren dealers vastly over inflate work required. Its a job creation scheme. I've been without a warranty and going to V for 3 years and have had minimal servicing costs (£500-£900 pa) and no issues with my 675LT.
The 570GT will probably have panel corrosion, it will happen again. Just be aware of that and that it probably wont be covered by warranty. It can be easily fixed just as with any other car. McLarens are very reliable and usable, despite what the internet tells us. Many McLaren's have done high mileages and the impact on values is much less than it is for comparable Italian cars. In fact the more miles they do the better they tend to be.
I also think they did a 570GTS. The 570GT was a dialled back 570S, about 5% less steering, suspension, engine etc. BUT they then made an S option which (AFAIK) has the 570S settings. If you drive a 570S back to back with a 570GT (as I have) you will notice straight away. In isolation probably not. Also don't discount a 650S. We borrowed a 570GT for a weekend and 600 miles and we couldn't fit the luggage we took out of our 12C into the 570GT! The P11 cars have better suspension, active aero and are more spacious inside and believe it (or not) smaller outside.
1. First check with Alastair Bols, see if he can get you the car you want. No-one preps a car like Alastair and his aftersales service is exemplary. He is always my no. 1 call, even if he can't get me the car I want.
2. Second call to Graham Davidson at Autolunge. He personally owns a few McLaren's and is a 'real' enthusiast. He also should be able to source a good car.
3. Buy privately with an inspection from V and transferable warranty, from an enthusiast long term owner.
4. McLaren dealer and negotiate warranty.
5. Don't buy from a non-McLaren specialist 'sportscar' garage (possibly with exception of Romans)
Whatever you buy get 'V' to conduct a PPI. No-one else, V know what they are doing. Definitely not a Mc dealer.
If you negotiate a Mc warranty, fine, service at McLaren until finished if you need to.
If you don't have a Mc warranty then service at V.
McLaren dealers vastly over inflate work required. Its a job creation scheme. I've been without a warranty and going to V for 3 years and have had minimal servicing costs (£500-£900 pa) and no issues with my 675LT.
The 570GT will probably have panel corrosion, it will happen again. Just be aware of that and that it probably wont be covered by warranty. It can be easily fixed just as with any other car. McLarens are very reliable and usable, despite what the internet tells us. Many McLaren's have done high mileages and the impact on values is much less than it is for comparable Italian cars. In fact the more miles they do the better they tend to be.
I also think they did a 570GTS. The 570GT was a dialled back 570S, about 5% less steering, suspension, engine etc. BUT they then made an S option which (AFAIK) has the 570S settings. If you drive a 570S back to back with a 570GT (as I have) you will notice straight away. In isolation probably not. Also don't discount a 650S. We borrowed a 570GT for a weekend and 600 miles and we couldn't fit the luggage we took out of our 12C into the 570GT! The P11 cars have better suspension, active aero and are more spacious inside and believe it (or not) smaller outside.
Edited by Bispal on Wednesday 11th June 11:30
Going back to the subject of dealers, I would take each on their own merit.
I went to look at a car a Jardine Select Bracknell, which is not somewhere you would normally go for a McLaren as they usually sell more normal premium brands. However Jardine are part of the group that own McLaren Ascot, and they use them to sell some of the older models (McLaren are inexplicably reluctant to push older or higher mileage cars through their dealer network). The Jardine Bracknell site is actually where the McLaren ascot workshop is, and the car in question had been prepped in the same workshop, by the same technicians, as the McLaren approved cars. It came with their warranty, not the McLaren warranty, but if anything it seemed more comprehensive (I read the whole thing) and all work would be carried out by the same aforementioned McLaren workshop. In the end I didn't buy the car but it was bought by someone on here who had a very positive experience.
My point with this story is; don't limit your options and don't automatically discount a car just because of the sign over the door.
I went to look at a car a Jardine Select Bracknell, which is not somewhere you would normally go for a McLaren as they usually sell more normal premium brands. However Jardine are part of the group that own McLaren Ascot, and they use them to sell some of the older models (McLaren are inexplicably reluctant to push older or higher mileage cars through their dealer network). The Jardine Bracknell site is actually where the McLaren ascot workshop is, and the car in question had been prepped in the same workshop, by the same technicians, as the McLaren approved cars. It came with their warranty, not the McLaren warranty, but if anything it seemed more comprehensive (I read the whole thing) and all work would be carried out by the same aforementioned McLaren workshop. In the end I didn't buy the car but it was bought by someone on here who had a very positive experience.
My point with this story is; don't limit your options and don't automatically discount a car just because of the sign over the door.
Bispal said:
I've owned 2 McLarens, 10 years in total and over 30k miles. A lot of experiences with all sorts of people and other owners. This is the order I would proceed with if buying.
1. First check with Alastair Bols, see if he can get you the car you want. No-one preps a car like Alastair and his aftersales service is exemplary. He is always my no. 1 call, even if he can't get me the car I want.
2. Second call to Graham Davidson at Autolunge. He personally owns a few McLaren's and is a 'real' enthusiast. He also should be able to source a good car.
3. Buy privately with an inspection from V and transferable warranty, from an enthusiast long term owner.
4. McLaren dealer and negotiate warranty.
5. Don't buy from a non-McLaren specialist 'sportscar' garage (possibly with exception of Romans)
Whatever you buy get 'V' to conduct a PPI. No-one else, V know what they are doing. Definitely not a Mc dealer.
If you negotiate a Mc warranty, fine, service at McLaren until finished if you need to.
If you don't have a Mc warranty then service at V.
McLaren dealers vastly over inflate work required. Its a job creation scheme. I've been without a warranty and going to V for 3 years and have had minimal servicing costs (£500-£900 pa) and no issues with my 675LT.
The 570GT will probably have panel corrosion, it will happen again. Just be aware of that and that it probably wont be covered by warranty. It can be easily fixed just as with any other car. McLarens are very reliable and usable, despite what the internet tells us. Many McLaren's have done high mileages and the impact on values is much less than it is for comparable Italian cars. In fact the more miles they do the better they tend to be.
I also think they did a 570GTS. The 570GT was a dialled back 570S, about 5% less steering, suspension, engine etc. BUT they then made an S option which (AFAIK) has the 570S settings. If you drive a 570S back to back with a 570GT (as I have) you will notice straight away. In isolation probably not. Also don't discount a 650S. We borrowed a 570GT for a weekend and 600 miles and we couldn't fit the luggage we took out of our 12C into the 570GT! The P11 cars have better suspension, active aero and are more spacious inside and believe it (or not) smaller outside.
100% sage advice from a member who knows. 1. First check with Alastair Bols, see if he can get you the car you want. No-one preps a car like Alastair and his aftersales service is exemplary. He is always my no. 1 call, even if he can't get me the car I want.
2. Second call to Graham Davidson at Autolunge. He personally owns a few McLaren's and is a 'real' enthusiast. He also should be able to source a good car.
3. Buy privately with an inspection from V and transferable warranty, from an enthusiast long term owner.
4. McLaren dealer and negotiate warranty.
5. Don't buy from a non-McLaren specialist 'sportscar' garage (possibly with exception of Romans)
Whatever you buy get 'V' to conduct a PPI. No-one else, V know what they are doing. Definitely not a Mc dealer.
If you negotiate a Mc warranty, fine, service at McLaren until finished if you need to.
If you don't have a Mc warranty then service at V.
McLaren dealers vastly over inflate work required. Its a job creation scheme. I've been without a warranty and going to V for 3 years and have had minimal servicing costs (£500-£900 pa) and no issues with my 675LT.
The 570GT will probably have panel corrosion, it will happen again. Just be aware of that and that it probably wont be covered by warranty. It can be easily fixed just as with any other car. McLarens are very reliable and usable, despite what the internet tells us. Many McLaren's have done high mileages and the impact on values is much less than it is for comparable Italian cars. In fact the more miles they do the better they tend to be.
I also think they did a 570GTS. The 570GT was a dialled back 570S, about 5% less steering, suspension, engine etc. BUT they then made an S option which (AFAIK) has the 570S settings. If you drive a 570S back to back with a 570GT (as I have) you will notice straight away. In isolation probably not. Also don't discount a 650S. We borrowed a 570GT for a weekend and 600 miles and we couldn't fit the luggage we took out of our 12C into the 570GT! The P11 cars have better suspension, active aero and are more spacious inside and believe it (or not) smaller outside.
Edited by Bispal on Wednesday 11th June 11:30
WCZ said:
i'd personally go 650s instead
This. Of course, I’d say that because I did.But then so did a rather more experienced supercar owner in replacing his Emira.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=z8_rVvmC6t8&si=dY9...
I've actually discussed build quality in detail with someone from McLaren. Remember all use the same basic engine derived from a race car engine and those are usually very reliable.
12C were launched a bit prematurely and there were teething problems with the early 2011 cars. Those early cars are generally sorted by now. There were no major issues I've heard of with later 12Cs and 12C Spiders (by the time the Spider came along there had been hundreds of changes under the skin, there is a video of a McLaren engineer on YouTube explaining this at the 12C Spider launch). Leaking gearbox seals are not that common and V can fix those easily.
650S was an evolution and also generally very reliable.
The 570 was a time when production doubled and that's when there were issues as different types of components were used hence the issues with door struts and suspension which don't generally affect 12C/650 (other than accumulators which I consider to be a consumable item).
As with the gentleman above my experience of McLaren ownership has been far far cheaper than Ferrari and on a par if not even slightly cheaper than Porsche. I know those trying to sell you a warranty will throw horrendous numbers out there to convince you that you should never run a McLaren without.
My experience and that of many others is that you really don't need it. The only claim under my McLaren warranty was for a sticky rear spoiler, cheap and easy fix.
My car was under McLaren warranty for years and there simply were no claims.
Get a good car to start with, warm it up gently from a cold start and let the turbos cool after a hot run and you really don't need a warranty.
12C were launched a bit prematurely and there were teething problems with the early 2011 cars. Those early cars are generally sorted by now. There were no major issues I've heard of with later 12Cs and 12C Spiders (by the time the Spider came along there had been hundreds of changes under the skin, there is a video of a McLaren engineer on YouTube explaining this at the 12C Spider launch). Leaking gearbox seals are not that common and V can fix those easily.
650S was an evolution and also generally very reliable.
The 570 was a time when production doubled and that's when there were issues as different types of components were used hence the issues with door struts and suspension which don't generally affect 12C/650 (other than accumulators which I consider to be a consumable item).
As with the gentleman above my experience of McLaren ownership has been far far cheaper than Ferrari and on a par if not even slightly cheaper than Porsche. I know those trying to sell you a warranty will throw horrendous numbers out there to convince you that you should never run a McLaren without.
My experience and that of many others is that you really don't need it. The only claim under my McLaren warranty was for a sticky rear spoiler, cheap and easy fix.
My car was under McLaren warranty for years and there simply were no claims.
Get a good car to start with, warm it up gently from a cold start and let the turbos cool after a hot run and you really don't need a warranty.
cgt2 said:
Bispal said:
I've owned 2 McLarens, 10 years in total and over 30k miles. A lot of experiences with all sorts of people and other owners. This is the order I would proceed with if buying.
1. First check with Alastair Bols, see if he can get you the car you want. No-one preps a car like Alastair and his aftersales service is exemplary. He is always my no. 1 call, even if he can't get me the car I want.
2. Second call to Graham Davidson at Autolunge. He personally owns a few McLaren's and is a 'real' enthusiast. He also should be able to source a good car.
3. Buy privately with an inspection from V and transferable warranty, from an enthusiast long term owner.
4. McLaren dealer and negotiate warranty.
5. Don't buy from a non-McLaren specialist 'sportscar' garage (possibly with exception of Romans)
Whatever you buy get 'V' to conduct a PPI. No-one else, V know what they are doing. Definitely not a Mc dealer.
If you negotiate a Mc warranty, fine, service at McLaren until finished if you need to.
If you don't have a Mc warranty then service at V.
McLaren dealers vastly over inflate work required. Its a job creation scheme. I've been without a warranty and going to V for 3 years and have had minimal servicing costs (£500-£900 pa) and no issues with my 675LT.
The 570GT will probably have panel corrosion, it will happen again. Just be aware of that and that it probably wont be covered by warranty. It can be easily fixed just as with any other car. McLarens are very reliable and usable, despite what the internet tells us. Many McLaren's have done high mileages and the impact on values is much less than it is for comparable Italian cars. In fact the more miles they do the better they tend to be.
I also think they did a 570GTS. The 570GT was a dialled back 570S, about 5% less steering, suspension, engine etc. BUT they then made an S option which (AFAIK) has the 570S settings. If you drive a 570S back to back with a 570GT (as I have) you will notice straight away. In isolation probably not. Also don't discount a 650S. We borrowed a 570GT for a weekend and 600 miles and we couldn't fit the luggage we took out of our 12C into the 570GT! The P11 cars have better suspension, active aero and are more spacious inside and believe it (or not) smaller outside.
100% sage advice from a member who knows. 1. First check with Alastair Bols, see if he can get you the car you want. No-one preps a car like Alastair and his aftersales service is exemplary. He is always my no. 1 call, even if he can't get me the car I want.
2. Second call to Graham Davidson at Autolunge. He personally owns a few McLaren's and is a 'real' enthusiast. He also should be able to source a good car.
3. Buy privately with an inspection from V and transferable warranty, from an enthusiast long term owner.
4. McLaren dealer and negotiate warranty.
5. Don't buy from a non-McLaren specialist 'sportscar' garage (possibly with exception of Romans)
Whatever you buy get 'V' to conduct a PPI. No-one else, V know what they are doing. Definitely not a Mc dealer.
If you negotiate a Mc warranty, fine, service at McLaren until finished if you need to.
If you don't have a Mc warranty then service at V.
McLaren dealers vastly over inflate work required. Its a job creation scheme. I've been without a warranty and going to V for 3 years and have had minimal servicing costs (£500-£900 pa) and no issues with my 675LT.
The 570GT will probably have panel corrosion, it will happen again. Just be aware of that and that it probably wont be covered by warranty. It can be easily fixed just as with any other car. McLarens are very reliable and usable, despite what the internet tells us. Many McLaren's have done high mileages and the impact on values is much less than it is for comparable Italian cars. In fact the more miles they do the better they tend to be.
I also think they did a 570GTS. The 570GT was a dialled back 570S, about 5% less steering, suspension, engine etc. BUT they then made an S option which (AFAIK) has the 570S settings. If you drive a 570S back to back with a 570GT (as I have) you will notice straight away. In isolation probably not. Also don't discount a 650S. We borrowed a 570GT for a weekend and 600 miles and we couldn't fit the luggage we took out of our 12C into the 570GT! The P11 cars have better suspension, active aero and are more spacious inside and believe it (or not) smaller outside.
Edited by Bispal on Wednesday 11th June 11:30
Bispal said:
I've owned 2 McLarens, 10 years in total and over 30k miles. A lot of experiences with all sorts of people and other owners. This is the order I would proceed with if buying.
1. First check with Alastair Bols, see if he can get you the car you want. No-one preps a car like Alastair and his aftersales service is exemplary. He is always my no. 1 call, even if he can't get me the car I want.
2. Second call to Graham Davidson at Autolunge. He personally owns a few McLaren's and is a 'real' enthusiast. He also should be able to source a good car.
3. Buy privately with an inspection from V and transferable warranty, from an enthusiast long term owner.
4. McLaren dealer and negotiate warranty.
5. Don't buy from a non-McLaren specialist 'sportscar' garage (possibly with exception of Romans)
Whatever you buy get 'V' to conduct a PPI. No-one else, V know what they are doing. Definitely not a Mc dealer.
If you negotiate a Mc warranty, fine, service at McLaren until finished if you need to.
If you don't have a Mc warranty then service at V.
McLaren dealers vastly over inflate work required. Its a job creation scheme. I've been without a warranty and going to V for 3 years and have had minimal servicing costs (£500-£900 pa) and no issues with my 675LT.
The 570GT will probably have panel corrosion, it will happen again. Just be aware of that and that it probably wont be covered by warranty. It can be easily fixed just as with any other car. McLarens are very reliable and usable, despite what the internet tells us. Many McLaren's have done high mileages and the impact on values is much less than it is for comparable Italian cars. In fact the more miles they do the better they tend to be.
I also think they did a 570GTS. The 570GT was a dialled back 570S, about 5% less steering, suspension, engine etc. BUT they then made an S option which (AFAIK) has the 570S settings. If you drive a 570S back to back with a 570GT (as I have) you will notice straight away. In isolation probably not. Also don't discount a 650S. We borrowed a 570GT for a weekend and 600 miles and we couldn't fit the luggage we took out of our 12C into the 570GT! The P11 cars have better suspension, active aero and are more spacious inside and believe it (or not) smaller outside.
Well, well, well. Very comprehensive. Many many thanks. Will copy and paste into the appropriate sections of my brain.1. First check with Alastair Bols, see if he can get you the car you want. No-one preps a car like Alastair and his aftersales service is exemplary. He is always my no. 1 call, even if he can't get me the car I want.
2. Second call to Graham Davidson at Autolunge. He personally owns a few McLaren's and is a 'real' enthusiast. He also should be able to source a good car.
3. Buy privately with an inspection from V and transferable warranty, from an enthusiast long term owner.
4. McLaren dealer and negotiate warranty.
5. Don't buy from a non-McLaren specialist 'sportscar' garage (possibly with exception of Romans)
Whatever you buy get 'V' to conduct a PPI. No-one else, V know what they are doing. Definitely not a Mc dealer.
If you negotiate a Mc warranty, fine, service at McLaren until finished if you need to.
If you don't have a Mc warranty then service at V.
McLaren dealers vastly over inflate work required. Its a job creation scheme. I've been without a warranty and going to V for 3 years and have had minimal servicing costs (£500-£900 pa) and no issues with my 675LT.
The 570GT will probably have panel corrosion, it will happen again. Just be aware of that and that it probably wont be covered by warranty. It can be easily fixed just as with any other car. McLarens are very reliable and usable, despite what the internet tells us. Many McLaren's have done high mileages and the impact on values is much less than it is for comparable Italian cars. In fact the more miles they do the better they tend to be.
I also think they did a 570GTS. The 570GT was a dialled back 570S, about 5% less steering, suspension, engine etc. BUT they then made an S option which (AFAIK) has the 570S settings. If you drive a 570S back to back with a 570GT (as I have) you will notice straight away. In isolation probably not. Also don't discount a 650S. We borrowed a 570GT for a weekend and 600 miles and we couldn't fit the luggage we took out of our 12C into the 570GT! The P11 cars have better suspension, active aero and are more spacious inside and believe it (or not) smaller outside.
Edited by Bispal on Wednesday 11th June 11:30
murphyaj said:
Going back to the subject of dealers, I would take each on their own merit.
I went to look at a car a Jardine Select Bracknell, which is not somewhere you would normally go for a McLaren as they usually sell more normal premium brands. However Jardine are part of the group that own McLaren Ascot, and they use them to sell some of the older models (McLaren are inexplicably reluctant to push older or higher mileage cars through their dealer network). The Jardine Bracknell site is actually where the McLaren ascot workshop is, and the car in question had been prepped in the same workshop, by the same technicians, as the McLaren approved cars. It came with their warranty, not the McLaren warranty, but if anything it seemed more comprehensive (I read the whole thing) and all work would be carried out by the same aforementioned McLaren workshop. In the end I didn't buy the car but it was bought by someone on here who had a very positive experience.
My point with this story is; don't limit your options and don't automatically discount a car just because of the sign over the door.
More excellent information. Thanks.I went to look at a car a Jardine Select Bracknell, which is not somewhere you would normally go for a McLaren as they usually sell more normal premium brands. However Jardine are part of the group that own McLaren Ascot, and they use them to sell some of the older models (McLaren are inexplicably reluctant to push older or higher mileage cars through their dealer network). The Jardine Bracknell site is actually where the McLaren ascot workshop is, and the car in question had been prepped in the same workshop, by the same technicians, as the McLaren approved cars. It came with their warranty, not the McLaren warranty, but if anything it seemed more comprehensive (I read the whole thing) and all work would be carried out by the same aforementioned McLaren workshop. In the end I didn't buy the car but it was bought by someone on here who had a very positive experience.
My point with this story is; don't limit your options and don't automatically discount a car just because of the sign over the door.
12pack said:
This. Of course, I d say that because I did.
But then so did a rather more experienced supercar owner in replacing his Emira.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=z8_rVvmC6t8&si=dY9...
Yes Harry bought high sold low lost a LOT of money on that Lotus he had there. But then so did a rather more experienced supercar owner in replacing his Emira.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=z8_rVvmC6t8&si=dY9...
Learning from his experience I let somebody buy my Emira at full price ($86k-ish?) - waited for them to put 700 miles on it - and then bought it 9 months later for £62k.
Luck was on my side this time.
macdeb said:
Seconded. I bought my 12C through Graham at Autolounge, it was an ex-Alistair Bols car (in fact he was with the first owner who specced every single option available at £68k taking the new price to a staggering £234K). Anyway, Graham was a delight to deal with and it came with a McLaren warranty. I had cam phasers replaced under warranty but don't think they are much of an issue now as most early ones seemed to have been replaced. I extended warranty though really didn't need to as it's been faultless, gone from 11k miles to 24k now. McLaren customer service and B'Ham McLaren were fantastic I have to add, having free upgrades! Since I decided not to renew again as I have complete confidence in the car, I have it serviced at 'V' engineering by Steve. Top job. They are not all moneypits and there are some very good cars out there. For me it's important to sus the previous owner on how the car has been treated as a lemon will bite you. They are all incredible cars, get used to everyone with a pulse to talk to you about it and take pictures, good luck with the search and keep us posted.
Thanks.cgt2 said:
jamesgareth said:
Re warranty I did not renew my McLaren warranty this year. McLarens are far more reliable than the internet would lead you to believe, I have had several more unreliable German cars. I have confidence that V Engineering can resolve any issues for far less than the warranty cost so see no need. Even the McLaren warranty has quite specific restrictions that don't justify the cost to me.
Cannot recommend enough, and will be asking him to source my next one.
Regards warranty, the last 3 yrs of ownership i never bothered with a warranty as it never needed it, so saved myself about £17k.
AB overs the same after market warranty that McLaren does, so anything goes wrong in your 1st year, take it to McLaren....after the 1st year you will know if your gonna require to extend the warranty or not.
Overall my 650 spider and 675 spider have provided me with fantastic ownership experience over the last 6 years.
Familymad said:
Same experience here. What a gent and encyclopaedia of Mcl knowledge. Bought and sold through him and waiting for the right moment to get Alistair to find me the right 675LT spider. I d go 650S not 570 as it s more of an event and a very special car.
Interesting. I've not looked at the 650s but it seems price-wise they're around the same as the 570GTs. But is it as daily-driver as the 570GT. I will investigate - and welcome any suggestions/ opinions on that question here too.This one looks nice:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202503019...
jamesgareth said:
Interesting. I've not looked at the 650s but it seems price-wise they're around the same as the 570GTs. But is it as daily-driver as the 570GT. I will investigate - and welcome any suggestions/ opinions on that question here too.
This one looks nice:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202503019...
Drive both and judge for yourself. The suspension is freakishly good even on poor surfaces. It is a very special car indeed and frankly somewhat undervalued for what it is. Also much rarer.This one looks nice:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202503019...
jamesgareth said:
Interesting. I've not looked at the 650s but it seems price-wise they're around the same as the 570GTs. But is it as daily-driver as the 570GT. I will investigate - and welcome any suggestions/ opinions on that question here too.
This one looks nice:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202503019...
Spec is everything with mclaren, although not as familiar with the 650 as opposed to the 570s there doesn't seem to be much on that car. This one looks nice:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202503019...
jamesgareth said:
Interesting. I've not looked at the 650s but it seems price-wise they're around the same as the 570GTs. But is it as daily-driver as the 570GT. I will investigate - and welcome any suggestions/ opinions on that question here too.
To repeat what others have said. The 650s is a very reliable platform having been a development of the 12C. The 570 is the start of a new platform with a doubling of production. The 570 has some inherent issues, paintwork, doors the most common. The 650s feels quicker, has active aero (can't beat that rear spoiler coming up) and trick suspension so is supremely comfortable.
A lot will be subjective regarding appearance so i won't comment on that, it's personal, but 650s has a big analogue tacho and single wiper. That's enough for me.
As I said before the 650s has more lugage space than the 570GT, better suspension and is smaller. So as a daily should be fine.
Also 650s is available in spider or coupe
And while they have similar engines they are different, different block for starters.
200Plus Club said:
jamesgareth said:
Interesting. I've not looked at the 650s but it seems price-wise they're around the same as the 570GTs. But is it as daily-driver as the 570GT. I will investigate - and welcome any suggestions/ opinions on that question here too.
This one looks nice:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202503019...
Spec is everything with mclaren, although not as familiar with the 650 as opposed to the 570s there doesn't seem to be much on that car. This one looks nice:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202503019...
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