So who's getting an i3?

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53x11

176 posts

74 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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Anyone got an i3 on a 3 year PCP doing about 25k per year? Trying to prep myself with some figures before I go to the dealer. I got around a 20% discount from list on the 135. Auto and quite a few options on it. Monthly is around £450 so would like to stick close to that if possible.

Would be looking at an i3s with Rex, metallic paint, HK audio and parking sensors. List is a shade over £40k.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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Be prepared for a total cost comparison by the dealer: i.e current is £450 + fuel to give them something to justify a potentially higher lease on.

25k miles at 450 might be a touch optimistic, but you might get there or thereabouts

A quick scan of contract hire and leasing found a 3+47 i3 non rex £435.44 20k per annum

53x11

176 posts

74 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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JPJPJP said:
Be prepared for a total cost comparison by the dealer: i.e current is £450 + fuel to give them something to justify a potentially higher lease on.

25k miles at 450 might be a touch optimistic, but you might get there or thereabouts

A quick scan of contract hire and leasing found a 3+47 i3 non rex £435.44 20k per annum
Great, thanks. Will get a few lease quotes for comparison.

covmutley

3,012 posts

189 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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I think I pay £443 for 20k on a 4 year PCP. That was with a £2k deposit.

CooperS

4,500 posts

218 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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covmutley said:
I think I pay £443 for 20k on a 4 year PCP. That was with a £2k deposit.
I pay £475 over 4 years which was 2k down but its a nicely spec'd 94ah Rex.

I'd be tempted with another one but alot of chat on the UK Facebook site that new owners of MY18 cars saying the acceleration has been softened...

RossP

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2,523 posts

282 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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CooperS said:
I'd be tempted with another one but alot of chat on the UK Facebook site that new owners of MY18 cars saying the acceleration has been softened...

I have an i3s to play with this weekend. I'll report back.

Greg_D

6,542 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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It’s probably the s’s Fault they have slowed the standard one down! Need to show a difference to sell the posher one

Prancing Horse

9 posts

74 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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CooperS said:
I pay £475 over 4 years which was 2k down but its a nicely spec'd 94ah Rex.

I'd be tempted with another one but alot of chat on the UK Facebook site that new owners of MY18 cars saying the acceleration has been softened...
Would be interesting to hear if anyone has managed to do the opposite. I find starting from a standstill the car almost bogs down and only at 10mph does it begin to move.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Greg_D said:
It’s probably the s’s Fault they have slowed the standard one down! Need to show a difference to sell the posher one
I suspect it's just a difference in the pedal mapping. imo, the difference in demand between normal and eco pro is far too much in the std car. Drive at say 30mph in eco pro, hold a fixed pedal to do that, flip into normal and the car takes off down the road to about 50mph! Personally, i think variable pedal maps with modes is bl**dy stupid. If you want to go slower, accelerate less, not hard is it. Modern cars are not exactly difficult to drive after all.

Job38

1,968 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I suspect it to prevent potential damage to motor-mounts.

Such a shame to dial-out performance - its one of the best things about the car!

ctallchris

1,266 posts

178 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Luke. said:
Yes. I often do a 110 mile round trip in ours and never use the Rex. Weather dependent of course. BTW, you'll find the i3 could become your fun car. 0-30 is faster than an M3.
I have just hit 20,000 miles with my 94ah I3 in the last 12 months. every day i commute 60 miles 40 of which are fast motorway miles. When I get home i usually have between 40 and 50% range remaining.

If you regularly do 100 miles I personally think you would be more comfortable with the REX. Accidents can close a road and you will enjoy the car a lot more if you are not driving efficiently all the way. One of the best features of an electric cars is you can drive with a lead foot and still be efficient.


herewego

8,814 posts

212 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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ctallchris said:
Luke. said:
Yes. I often do a 110 mile round trip in ours and never use the Rex. Weather dependent of course. BTW, you'll find the i3 could become your fun car. 0-30 is faster than an M3.
I have just hit 20,000 miles with my 94ah I3 in the last 12 months. every day i commute 60 miles 40 of which are fast motorway miles. When I get home i usually have between 40 and 50% range remaining.

If you regularly do 100 miles I personally think you would be more comfortable with the REX. Accidents can close a road and you will enjoy the car a lot more if you are not driving efficiently all the way. One of the best features of an electric cars is you can drive with a lead foot and still be efficient.
Do you mean the miles per kWh is the same no matter how you drive, how can that be?

RossP

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2,523 posts

282 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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herewego said:
ctallchris said:
Luke. said:
Yes. I often do a 110 mile round trip in ours and never use the Rex. Weather dependent of course. BTW, you'll find the i3 could become your fun car. 0-30 is faster than an M3.
I have just hit 20,000 miles with my 94ah I3 in the last 12 months. every day i commute 60 miles 40 of which are fast motorway miles. When I get home i usually have between 40 and 50% range remaining.

If you regularly do 100 miles I personally think you would be more comfortable with the REX. Accidents can close a road and you will enjoy the car a lot more if you are not driving efficiently all the way. One of the best features of an electric cars is you can drive with a lead foot and still be efficient.
Do you mean the miles per kWh is the same no matter how you drive, how can that be?
No , he definitely doesn't mean that. Driving style has a huge impact on that.

I think he means that they are very cheap to run, so no matter how much you boot it, it still won't be expensive.

danp

1,603 posts

261 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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herewego said:
Do you mean the miles per kWh is the same no matter how you drive, how can that be?
I think the RX-8 is about the only car where this is apparently the case!

jjwilde

1,904 posts

95 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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herewego said:
Do you mean the miles per kWh is the same no matter how you drive, how can that be?
Absolutely means they are so cheap to run (free for some people near public chargers) that it does not matter how you drive it.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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herewego said:
Do you mean the miles per kWh is the same no matter how you drive, how can that be?
Because an EV has regen, as long as you don't use the friction brakes, the system recaptures around 70% of the energy stored in its mass at speed. The biggest effect on consumption (and hence range) is simply the average speed you travel at. Aero drag goes up with the cube of speed, so small increases in average speed require massively more power to achieve.

In summary, as long as you preempt having to slow down, avoid the use of the friction brakes, and don't sit at high speeds for long periods, you can drive pretty 'aggressively' in an EV and still return decent economy.


Another big difference to an ICE is what happens when you get stuck in traffic. An ICE powertrain has a point of minimum consumption at, typically, around 40mph (lowest speed you get do in top gear), drop below that, and despite the road load continuing to fall, consumption increases as engine friction and parasitic losses starts to dominate. For an EV, consumption falls all the way to zero mph, so get stuck in traffic and your range actually goes up!!

nbetts

1,455 posts

228 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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RossP said:

I have an i3s to play with this weekend. I'll report back.
So come on RossP - How was it? Spill the beans old chap smile

tyrrell

1,670 posts

207 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Yes very interested in a BEV i3S my commute is ten miles a day in traffic, let hear your thoughts.

RossP

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2,523 posts

282 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Didn't happen. Cock up at BMW frown

53x11

176 posts

74 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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RossP said:
Didn't happen. Cock up at BMW frown
I'm not having much luck getting a response from Warrington BMW on my i3 enquiry either.