So who's getting an i3?
Discussion
desolate said:
The suicide doors are better in tight spaces.
If you have young kids that need helping out the suicide doors are better.
No way. I have a baby and the rear doors are terrible in car parks. If you’re in a tight space and open both doors you’re trapped and can’t reach anything/let anyone else in! The seats are also set back compared to the entrance so difficult to reach in to help with seatbelt buckling. Also if my other half wants to get in the back with the kid she can’t close the doors behind her and I have to get out and do it. They’re so annoying we use her Yaris more for nipping around town. If you have young kids that need helping out the suicide doors are better.
Got to agree with the poster who says they're a pain in car parks. I've had to pull out of a space on a number of occasions to let my teenage kids get in the back as a real pain if it's tight.
Assuming you have room they're a brilliant solution though and the amount of space inside for a car with such a small footprint is Tardis like.
Assuming you have room they're a brilliant solution though and the amount of space inside for a car with such a small footprint is Tardis like.
mcm87 said:
No way. I have a baby and the rear doors are terrible in car parks. If you’re in a tight space and open both doors you’re trapped and can’t reach anything/let anyone else in! The seats are also set back compared to the entrance so difficult to reach in to help with seatbelt buckling. Also if my other half wants to get in the back with the kid she can’t close the doors behind her and I have to get out and do it. They’re so annoying we use her Yaris more for nipping around town.
Not sure I find them quite so difficult I'd take another car but agree there's a definite level of awkwardness. Edited by SWoll on Sunday 14th July 09:32
Don’t get me wrong I love the car, and in wide open spaces the rear doors do provide lots of access. But in other circumstances they’re a huge pain.
I’ve done almost 30k miles in my i3 now and wouldn’t swap it despite the above. Although if something had been available like the new electric Mini which is the i3 drivetrain in a more “traditional” shell I would’ve gone for that.
I’ve done almost 30k miles in my i3 now and wouldn’t swap it despite the above. Although if something had been available like the new electric Mini which is the i3 drivetrain in a more “traditional” shell I would’ve gone for that.
I've had an i3 demo for a few days and think its brilliant, so contemplating getting one as a company car with the new BIK rules coming in and free charging at work. I have a 70 mile round trip commute and once a week 140mile round trip. A few questions for those in the know.
1. In summer, I think it would do the 140miles fine on one charge, but would it cope in winter conditions?
2. What is the handling like in cold/wet conditions with the narrow front tyres? And is the tyre width the same on all wheel options?
3. Is it a nightmare in snow?
4. Is the optional cabin heater worth the cost? The speal indicates it helps range by as much as 30% in winter.
5. What is the standard black interior like? My demo has the lodge spec, a bit beige but I like the quality and texture.
6. As a company car, I'd want to keep options to a minimum, and standard i3 spec seems good. Any options people would really recommend?
Thanks!
1. In summer, I think it would do the 140miles fine on one charge, but would it cope in winter conditions?
2. What is the handling like in cold/wet conditions with the narrow front tyres? And is the tyre width the same on all wheel options?
3. Is it a nightmare in snow?
4. Is the optional cabin heater worth the cost? The speal indicates it helps range by as much as 30% in winter.
5. What is the standard black interior like? My demo has the lodge spec, a bit beige but I like the quality and texture.
6. As a company car, I'd want to keep options to a minimum, and standard i3 spec seems good. Any options people would really recommend?
Thanks!
JackReacher said:
I've had an i3 demo for a few days and think its brilliant, so contemplating getting one as a company car with the new BIK rules coming in and free charging at work. I have a 70 mile round trip commute and once a week 140mile round trip. A few questions for those in the know.
1. In summer, I think it would do the 140miles fine on one charge, but would it cope in winter conditions? assuming BEV! probably not.
2. What is the handling like in cold/wet conditions with the narrow front tyres? And is the tyre width the same on all wheel options? it's 'fun' it's no gti, but it's perfectly safe.
3. Is it a nightmare in snow? no, it's really good
4. Is the optional cabin heater worth the cost? The speal indicates it helps range by as much as 30% in winter. pass
5. What is the standard black interior like? My demo has the lodge spec, a bit beige but I like the quality and texture.
6. As a company car, I'd want to keep options to a minimum, and standard i3 spec seems good. Any options people would really recommend? reversing cameras are a must, IMO
Thanks!
1. In summer, I think it would do the 140miles fine on one charge, but would it cope in winter conditions? assuming BEV! probably not.
2. What is the handling like in cold/wet conditions with the narrow front tyres? And is the tyre width the same on all wheel options? it's 'fun' it's no gti, but it's perfectly safe.
3. Is it a nightmare in snow? no, it's really good
4. Is the optional cabin heater worth the cost? The speal indicates it helps range by as much as 30% in winter. pass
5. What is the standard black interior like? My demo has the lodge spec, a bit beige but I like the quality and texture.
6. As a company car, I'd want to keep options to a minimum, and standard i3 spec seems good. Any options people would really recommend? reversing cameras are a must, IMO
Thanks!
JackReacher said:
I've had an i3 demo for a few days and think its brilliant, so contemplating getting one as a company car with the new BIK rules coming in and free charging at work. I have a 70 mile round trip commute and once a week 140mile round trip. A few questions for those in the know.
1. In summer, I think it would do the 140miles fine on one charge, but would it cope in winter conditions?
2. What is the handling like in cold/wet conditions with the narrow front tyres? And is the tyre width the same on all wheel options?
3. Is it a nightmare in snow?
4. Is the optional cabin heater worth the cost? The speal indicates it helps range by as much as 30% in winter.
5. What is the standard black interior like? My demo has the lodge spec, a bit beige but I like the quality and texture.
6. As a company car, I'd want to keep options to a minimum, and standard i3 spec seems good. Any options people would really recommend?
Thanks!
As a new owner here's my take. I'm sure someone with a bit more time in the car will be along shortly1. In summer, I think it would do the 140miles fine on one charge, but would it cope in winter conditions?
2. What is the handling like in cold/wet conditions with the narrow front tyres? And is the tyre width the same on all wheel options?
3. Is it a nightmare in snow?
4. Is the optional cabin heater worth the cost? The speal indicates it helps range by as much as 30% in winter.
5. What is the standard black interior like? My demo has the lodge spec, a bit beige but I like the quality and texture.
6. As a company car, I'd want to keep options to a minimum, and standard i3 spec seems good. Any options people would really recommend?
Thanks!
1. In summer no problem. Winter don't know yet
2. Seems fine. Tyres are no smaller than small cars back in the 90's for instance.
3. Why would it be? Narrow tyres are exactly what you want in snow. Haven't tried it yet but not expecting it to be any worse than anything else.
4. Didn't tick that box. Heat it up while still plugged in and leave the house with a full charge.
5. Went for Loft. Not a fan of dark interiors.
6. I'm a private buyer. Didn't tick any options other than the interior and wheels. Not that there are many to choose from. Would have had memory electric seats if I could but not an option due to weight. I think it is pretty well spec'd as standard.
JackReacher said:
Greg_D said:
but yes, it's part of a more expensive 'pack'
Owned a 60ah REX for 20k miles.
Range, in winter I get about 60 miles in comfort mode. For the latest 120ah you should get at least 120 miles.
Handling OK on my 19" wheels in the wet, but I don't tend to try to slide it round corners. It does feel a little skittish at motorway speeds. For a BEV tyres are the same all round.
Didn't have a problem with snow in the 2017 & 2018 winters but I live in the Thames Valley and it wasn't too bad. Apart from the usual rear wheel drive fun.
Can't comment on cabin heater as I don't have one, but I would agree with what was said above; precondition before departure whilst plugged in.
Can't comment on black interior as mine is leather suite which is dark brown. Seems to wearing OK.
Options - My car is pretty well specced, it's got pretty much everything except for the HK sound system. But, if buying again I'd look for Automatic Cruise control package, comfort access and sunroof as a minimum. I do have the reversing camera as it adds front parking sensors. However, I bought 2nd hand and thought a £40k car should have a reversing camera. Would I have paid for it new? Probably, as it does add the front sensors (but I'm not sure which sensors come as standard today). And I do occasionally use the park assist option.
Range, in winter I get about 60 miles in comfort mode. For the latest 120ah you should get at least 120 miles.
Handling OK on my 19" wheels in the wet, but I don't tend to try to slide it round corners. It does feel a little skittish at motorway speeds. For a BEV tyres are the same all round.
Didn't have a problem with snow in the 2017 & 2018 winters but I live in the Thames Valley and it wasn't too bad. Apart from the usual rear wheel drive fun.
Can't comment on cabin heater as I don't have one, but I would agree with what was said above; precondition before departure whilst plugged in.
Can't comment on black interior as mine is leather suite which is dark brown. Seems to wearing OK.
Options - My car is pretty well specced, it's got pretty much everything except for the HK sound system. But, if buying again I'd look for Automatic Cruise control package, comfort access and sunroof as a minimum. I do have the reversing camera as it adds front parking sensors. However, I bought 2nd hand and thought a £40k car should have a reversing camera. Would I have paid for it new? Probably, as it does add the front sensors (but I'm not sure which sensors come as standard today). And I do occasionally use the park assist option.
so called said:
I'm thinking of trading in my 2016 i3 Rex for a 2019 S model.
I'm not sure if its a good idea to lose the Rex.
Anyone done the same and regretted it?
Cheers,
Tony.
i looked at trading my 2016 BEV for a 2019 BEV "s", but the cost to trade up was huge for really little benefitI'm not sure if its a good idea to lose the Rex.
Anyone done the same and regretted it?
Cheers,
Tony.
(and besides, when my non-s depreciates just a little more, i'm gonna stick a second motor in the front......... :-)
How many miles do you do on the ReX over a year, and i assume you have a 94AH battery in yours?
Max_Torque said:
so called said:
I'm thinking of trading in my 2016 i3 Rex for a 2019 S model.
I'm not sure if its a good idea to lose the Rex.
Anyone done the same and regretted it?
Cheers,
Tony.
i looked at trading my 2016 BEV for a 2019 BEV "s", but the cost to trade up was huge for really little benefitI'm not sure if its a good idea to lose the Rex.
Anyone done the same and regretted it?
Cheers,
Tony.
(and besides, when my non-s depreciates just a little more, i'm gonna stick a second motor in the front......... :-)
How many miles do you do on the ReX over a year, and i assume you have a 94AH battery in yours?
I'm focussed more on range than 'mad' performance but was looking at a Demo.,i3S because it looks a good deal.
I do a daily 100 mile commute and use the Rex for between 10 miles and 35 miles each day depending on season/temp.
So I would estimate ca., 6000 miles/year.
With my man math, that works out at ca., £750,- saving after I've deducted the additional electrical charge costs for the additional battery mileage.
( For added justification, mine needs new tyres all round so an additional saving )
so called said:
Mine 2016 i3 has the same battery as yours. So the new one is twice the capacity.
I'm focussed more on range than 'mad' performance but was looking at a Demo.,i3S because it looks a good deal.
I do a daily 100 mile commute and use the Rex for between 10 miles and 35 miles each day depending on season/temp.
So I would estimate ca., 6000 miles/year.
With my man math, that works out at ca., £750,- saving after I've deducted the additional electrical charge costs for the additional battery mileage.
( For added justification, mine needs new tyres all round so an additional saving )
I've got an I3 120 and I'd be very surprised if you couldn't manage 100 miles on each charge, even in winter.I'm focussed more on range than 'mad' performance but was looking at a Demo.,i3S because it looks a good deal.
I do a daily 100 mile commute and use the Rex for between 10 miles and 35 miles each day depending on season/temp.
So I would estimate ca., 6000 miles/year.
With my man math, that works out at ca., £750,- saving after I've deducted the additional electrical charge costs for the additional battery mileage.
( For added justification, mine needs new tyres all round so an additional saving )
I am getting well over that now and looking at how my stats stack up against most drivers I obviously drive like a tool.
desolate said:
so called said:
Mine 2016 i3 has the same battery as yours. So the new one is twice the capacity.
I'm focussed more on range than 'mad' performance but was looking at a Demo.,i3S because it looks a good deal.
I do a daily 100 mile commute and use the Rex for between 10 miles and 35 miles each day depending on season/temp.
So I would estimate ca., 6000 miles/year.
With my man math, that works out at ca., £750,- saving after I've deducted the additional electrical charge costs for the additional battery mileage.
( For added justification, mine needs new tyres all round so an additional saving )
I've got an I3 120 and I'd be very surprised if you couldn't manage 100 miles on each charge, even in winter.I'm focussed more on range than 'mad' performance but was looking at a Demo.,i3S because it looks a good deal.
I do a daily 100 mile commute and use the Rex for between 10 miles and 35 miles each day depending on season/temp.
So I would estimate ca., 6000 miles/year.
With my man math, that works out at ca., £750,- saving after I've deducted the additional electrical charge costs for the additional battery mileage.
( For added justification, mine needs new tyres all round so an additional saving )
I am getting well over that now and looking at how my stats stack up against most drivers I obviously drive like a tool.
I'm pretty sure may even have some heating or AC on as well.
Its just getting over that mental attitude for longer journeys that, with the Rex, I can just keep topping up without issue.
Where as with the 120Ah Bev, I may need an available charger which aren't as readily available as petrol pumps.
Especially if I head into Wales.
so called said:
Yes, I'm sure I will be able to make the commute on battery all year round.
I'm pretty sure may even have some heating or AC on as well.
Its just getting over that mental attitude for longer journeys that, with the Rex, I can just keep topping up without issue.
Where as with the 120Ah Bev, I may need an available charger which aren't as readily available as petrol pumps.
Especially if I head into Wales.
Yes I agree - it's not so much of an issue for me as I have another car for longer journeys. Not sure I'd want to be out and about in the wilds in a pure EV currently.I'm pretty sure may even have some heating or AC on as well.
Its just getting over that mental attitude for longer journeys that, with the Rex, I can just keep topping up without issue.
Where as with the 120Ah Bev, I may need an available charger which aren't as readily available as petrol pumps.
Especially if I head into Wales.
I had my first misjudgement in 4 months last night where it was touch and go as to whether I would make it home from a friend's place - fortunately I was able to transfer to a fast charger in a Sainsbury and by the time I bought a coffee it had added 30 miles BUT the REX would negate the need to do that and if I had been on the other side of town I wouldn't have been able to make it.
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