Questions about the Renault EV range?

Questions about the Renault EV range?

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McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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2 grandish or 4 grandish or a 12 year old micra with no MOT and half the rear suspension missing

and doing 12000 miles a day year


Butter Face

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160 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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2k Deposit on a Dynamique Intens Spec with metallic paint = £242.47pm over 48m, Battery lease is £93pm over same term with same mileage.

Total monthly is £335.47.

With 4k Deposit the payments are £193.72 and battery is the same.

Total monthly is £286.72.

There's a new offer in the new year which will make them a bit more attractive (IMO)

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

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Saturday 21st December 2013
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What about poverty spec?

Synchromesh

2,428 posts

166 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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Butter Face said:
2k Deposit on a Dynamique Intens Spec with metallic paint = £242.47pm over 48m, Battery lease is £93pm over same term with same mileage.

Total monthly is £335.47.

With 4k Deposit the payments are £193.72 and battery is the same.

Total monthly is £286.72.
Do you own the car after the 4 years or is it just a lease?

Butter Face

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Saturday 21st December 2013
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McWigglebum4th said:
What about poverty spec?
£219.64 With 2k deposit, £170.97 for 4k deposit. Same battery lease figures.


Synchromesh said:
Butter Face said:
2k Deposit on a Dynamique Intens Spec with metallic paint = £242.47pm over 48m, Battery lease is £93pm over same term with same mileage.

Total monthly is £335.47.

With 4k Deposit the payments are £193.72 and battery is the same.

Total monthly is £286.72.
Do you own the car after the 4 years or is it just a lease?
PCP so you hand the car back, pay off a final installment or PX it.


McWigglebum4th

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Saturday 21st December 2013
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Butter Face said:
McWigglebum4th said:
What about poverty spec?
£219.64 With 2k deposit, £170.97 for 4k deposit. Same battery lease figures.
Yeah poverty spec


So what extra useless rubbish do you get in powerfully built director spec over poverty spec

Butter Face

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Saturday 21st December 2013
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McWigglebum4th said:
Butter Face said:
McWigglebum4th said:
What about poverty spec?
£219.64 With 2k deposit, £170.97 for 4k deposit. Same battery lease figures.
Yeah poverty spec


So what extra useless rubbish do you get in powerfully built director spec over poverty spec
http://brochures.renault.co.uk/f07af789-35d0-46dc-9754-410d9d05e5e4/view

Page 2 lists spec differences.

Those prices are + Battery lease @ £93 just to clear it up.

Synchromesh

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166 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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Butter Face said:
£219.64 With 2k deposit, £170.97 for 4k deposit. Same battery lease figures.
That adds up to £11.5k or £12.1k (plus battery lease). You can buy one outright (which I think you still need to add the battery lease figure to) for £14k, so are Renault basically predicting it'll only be worth £1.9 - 2.5k in four years time!?

What's the APR figure on for the boggo one with £2k down?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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Don't forget on a PCP they always want to leave you with a chunk of equity in the car to act as the deposit on the next PCP. You've also got to pay the interest which is probably a couple of grand.

Butter Face

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Synchromesh said:
Butter Face said:
£219.64 With 2k deposit, £170.97 for 4k deposit. Same battery lease figures.
That adds up to £11.5k or £12.1k (plus battery lease). You can buy one outright (which I think you still need to add the battery lease figure to) for £14k, so are Renault basically predicting it'll only be worth £1.9 - 2.5k in four years time!?

What's the APR figure on for the boggo one with £2k down?
8.94% APR.

OFP is £4,763.70.

Total amount payable is £17604.42 inc deposit and all interest and charges.


Synchromesh

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Saturday 21st December 2013
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Butter Face said:
8.94% APR.

OFP is £4,763.70.

Total amount payable is £17604.42 inc deposit and all interest and charges.
Cheers for the speedy reply. Does the £17k figure include the battery lease?

Also on the RUK website it says the Zoe is £13,995. Do we need to add the monthly battery lease on top or is that inclusive?

Butter Face

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Synchromesh said:
Butter Face said:
8.94% APR.

OFP is £4,763.70.

Total amount payable is £17604.42 inc deposit and all interest and charges.
Cheers for the speedy reply. Does the £17k figure include the battery lease?

Also on the RUK website it says the Zoe is £13,995. Do we need to add the monthly battery lease on top or is that inclusive?
No, that's the car. The battery lease is always seperate.

Same with the figures on the website, you buy the car, the battery lease is always at seperate and independent charge.

There is a new offer coming in on 1st jan which makes it mad for anyone to buy an expression over an dynamique.

Synchromesh

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Saturday 21st December 2013
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Butter Face said:
OFP is £4,763.70.

Total amount payable is £17604.42 inc deposit and all interest and charges.
Wait so it's nearly £18k to lease it for 4 years and then hand it back, or £14k to buy it outright and own it fully? WTF!

Butter Face

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Synchromesh said:
Butter Face said:
OFP is £4,763.70.

Total amount payable is £17604.42 inc deposit and all interest and charges.
Wait so it's nearly £18k to lease it for 4 years and then hand it back, or £14k to buy it outright and own it fully? WTF!
Only if you pay the OFP. It's how all PCP schemes work.

If you just hand it back you don't pay the OFP and you pay around £12.8k over the 4 years.

Pretty standard stuff!

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Butter Face said:
8.94% APR.

OFP is £4,763.70.

Total amount payable is £17604.42 inc deposit and all interest and charges.
Been looking into this sort of thing for around 8000-9000 miles per year - I think I'm still better off with a nearly new efficient petrol (probably a zero road taxer) at this time.

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Synchromesh said:
Butter Face said:
OFP is £4,763.70.

Total amount payable is £17604.42 inc deposit and all interest and charges.
Wait so it's nearly £18k to lease it for 4 years and then hand it back, or £14k to buy it outright and own it fully? WTF!
PCP = Perpetual car prison! wink

Synchromesh

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Butter Face said:
Only if you pay the OFP. It's how all PCP schemes work.

If you just hand it back you don't pay the OFP and you pay around £12.8k over the 4 years.

Pretty standard stuff!
So it cost pretty much to same to borrow it for 4 years as it does to own it forever? I don't know what's worse; the sliminess of the salesmen who push these sort of scams, or the punters who don't spend 30 seconds to do the maths before signing! Caveat emptor, no less!

Butter Face

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Synchromesh said:
Butter Face said:
Only if you pay the OFP. It's how all PCP schemes work.

If you just hand it back you don't pay the OFP and you pay around £12.8k over the 4 years.

Pretty standard stuff!
So it cost pretty much to same to borrow it for 4 years as it does to own it forever? I don't know what's worse; the sliminess of the salesmen who push these sort of scams, or the punters who don't spend 30 seconds to do the maths before signing! Caveat emptor, no less!
Really? We're going there?

Not everyone has 14k to buy a car, borrowing 14k from the bank would cost you near as damn it as much.

Take your thoughts elsewhere.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Synchromesh said:
So it cost pretty much to same to borrow it for 4 years as it does to own it forever? I don't know what's worse; the sliminess of the salesmen who push these sort of scams, or the punters who don't spend 30 seconds to do the maths before signing! Caveat emptor, no less!
WTF!? You do know that not everyone can fork out the lump sum for a car, but can easily afford a couple of hundred quid per month for finance?

Butter Face

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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simoid said:
Butter Face said:
8.94% APR.

OFP is £4,763.70.

Total amount payable is £17604.42 inc deposit and all interest and charges.
Been looking into this sort of thing for around 8000-9000 miles per year - I think I'm still better off with a nearly new efficient petrol (probably a zero road taxer) at this time.
I agree.

EV cars are still very much for people who want rather than need one.

The fuel costs are not staggeringly different, but it's a personal choice.