Auris HSD touring sport
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Hi,
I'm seriously considering an Auris hybrid tourer, most of my driving is urban and the commute is <15 miles per day of mostly stop start traffic with a bit of dual carriageway, storage is important as I need space for a baby buggy and all the usual gubbins that goes with kids ;-) but I also don't want something that's going to be a struggle when I need to get past an HGV safely (quickly), on an A-road. So I guess I'm looking for real world experience from any owners in terms of mid range acceleration with this car?
Thanks in advance!
Matt
I'm seriously considering an Auris hybrid tourer, most of my driving is urban and the commute is <15 miles per day of mostly stop start traffic with a bit of dual carriageway, storage is important as I need space for a baby buggy and all the usual gubbins that goes with kids ;-) but I also don't want something that's going to be a struggle when I need to get past an HGV safely (quickly), on an A-road. So I guess I'm looking for real world experience from any owners in terms of mid range acceleration with this car?
Thanks in advance!
Matt
It's fine. It's broadly similar to a 2.0 140bhp diesel, in terms of power, but has the advantage that you can get it all at any road speed, so overtakes are easy.
It doesn't feel particularly fast, as there's no build up of power which makes the acceleration feel quicker in a conventional car.
It takes a bit of getting used to the fact that engine noise doesn't relate to road speed, which is also another reason why it doesn't feel that quick, but looking at the speedo tells a different story.
It handles and grips far better than it has a right to too, the only let down really is that the steering doesn't have a lot of feel.
It doesn't feel particularly fast, as there's no build up of power which makes the acceleration feel quicker in a conventional car.
It takes a bit of getting used to the fact that engine noise doesn't relate to road speed, which is also another reason why it doesn't feel that quick, but looking at the speedo tells a different story.
It handles and grips far better than it has a right to too, the only let down really is that the steering doesn't have a lot of feel.
I've had mine for a couple of months now. It's been spot on so far, nice comfy thing to be in and a pleasant, smooth drive. It's definitely got enough grunt for safe overtaking; it's not that fast from a standing start which is reflected in the 0-60 figure, but if you want to accelerate from say 40mph to pass a wagon it does shift fairly well.
The boot space is brilliant, but it's a bit short on rear legroom if you intend to regularly carry tall passengers.
More info here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
The boot space is brilliant, but it's a bit short on rear legroom if you intend to regularly carry tall passengers.
More info here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
We’ve had our Lexus IS300H for over 2 weeks now, and coming up to 700 miles on the clock.
It’s got essentially the same hybrid drive but with a larger petrol engine. Like you one of my concerns before getting the IS300H was the fact most magazine reviewer’s go on about the car feeling ‘sluggish’ and poor throttle response.
The Lexus has replaced our diesel Civic 2.2 (140 bhp), and the other car is a tuned BMW 335i last dynode at 380bhp. I can reassure you the hybrid drive unit has more than enough grunt, and throttle response has a bit of lag, but no worse than the slight turbo lag I get in the BMW.
But to convince myself I did some quick videos of the Lexus doing 0-60, but also 50-70mph ‘in-gear’ performance, and as you can see it’s pretty much on par with ‘quoted’ times for a BMW 320D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd-7ymKI1mg
I think the reason reviewers don’t get on with the car is because the power delivery is very different from a diesel, and with no ‘gear changes’ to speak off it’s simply a different type of progression.
Another ‘myth’ car reviewer’s love to spread about hybrids is ‘rubbish mpg on M ways’
The Toyota Hybrid units don’t reach maximum efficiency till theres about 10k on the clock, and weather warmer…
This is what I got in my Lexus with after 90 miles on the motorway with cruise control set at 70mph, and following the traffic. Ok there was quite a lot of traffic, and long stretches of 50mph sections, but the car no more than 500 miles on the clock and temperature outside below 10 degrees, so come summer I expect to see 60mpg+ on motorway runs.
Of-course than came 10 miles of been stuck in standstill traffic in North London, and the IS300Hs party trick (Full EV mode) saw the mpg IMPROVE!! Bearing in mind the IS300H is stuffed full of leather/gadgets and more refined to drive than our father-in E Class Mercedes, it's pretty amazing ecnomoy, the best I ever got from our Civic was 57mpg,and the 335i is currently displaying 21 mpg as longterm average
As you can probably tell I love our Lexus, and mainly because of the hybrid drive. Yes it’s essentially still a conventional petrol engine 90% of the time, but it has shown me that the EV cars is the future…As soon as Tesla announce a £30-40K EV car with 200 miles range, I’ll be getting rid of my 335i
It’s got essentially the same hybrid drive but with a larger petrol engine. Like you one of my concerns before getting the IS300H was the fact most magazine reviewer’s go on about the car feeling ‘sluggish’ and poor throttle response.
The Lexus has replaced our diesel Civic 2.2 (140 bhp), and the other car is a tuned BMW 335i last dynode at 380bhp. I can reassure you the hybrid drive unit has more than enough grunt, and throttle response has a bit of lag, but no worse than the slight turbo lag I get in the BMW.
But to convince myself I did some quick videos of the Lexus doing 0-60, but also 50-70mph ‘in-gear’ performance, and as you can see it’s pretty much on par with ‘quoted’ times for a BMW 320D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd-7ymKI1mg
I think the reason reviewers don’t get on with the car is because the power delivery is very different from a diesel, and with no ‘gear changes’ to speak off it’s simply a different type of progression.
Another ‘myth’ car reviewer’s love to spread about hybrids is ‘rubbish mpg on M ways’
The Toyota Hybrid units don’t reach maximum efficiency till theres about 10k on the clock, and weather warmer…
This is what I got in my Lexus with after 90 miles on the motorway with cruise control set at 70mph, and following the traffic. Ok there was quite a lot of traffic, and long stretches of 50mph sections, but the car no more than 500 miles on the clock and temperature outside below 10 degrees, so come summer I expect to see 60mpg+ on motorway runs.
Of-course than came 10 miles of been stuck in standstill traffic in North London, and the IS300Hs party trick (Full EV mode) saw the mpg IMPROVE!! Bearing in mind the IS300H is stuffed full of leather/gadgets and more refined to drive than our father-in E Class Mercedes, it's pretty amazing ecnomoy, the best I ever got from our Civic was 57mpg,and the 335i is currently displaying 21 mpg as longterm average
As you can probably tell I love our Lexus, and mainly because of the hybrid drive. Yes it’s essentially still a conventional petrol engine 90% of the time, but it has shown me that the EV cars is the future…As soon as Tesla announce a £30-40K EV car with 200 miles range, I’ll be getting rid of my 335i
Edited by gangzoom on Monday 16th March 10:33
Just to add to my initial comment, regarding MPG, I've had mine since new, it's 5 months old with nearly 11,000 on the clock now. Average MPG to date is a real 51.5 or so, and is improving now the warmer weather is here, for instance, a gentle drive across town from my parents house in school traffic returned an indicated 82.7 MPG. Motorways tend to be in the mid 50's, or have been throughout winter, depending on wind and weather conditions mind you.
Worst I had was a very wet, rainy and windy drive down from Edinburgh where I could feel the car struggling compared to normal to maintain progress such was the strength of the headwind and the depth of standing water on the M74. That journey only achieved 42 mpg indicated, but was very much the exception, and I'm expecting to get averages into the 60's now as the temperature is rising. Most of my journeys are on motorways.
The dash indication of MPG is quite close to reality, no more than 2 mpg over optimistic, which is pretty good I feel, compared to the Volvo and VAG cars I had previously.
Worst I had was a very wet, rainy and windy drive down from Edinburgh where I could feel the car struggling compared to normal to maintain progress such was the strength of the headwind and the depth of standing water on the M74. That journey only achieved 42 mpg indicated, but was very much the exception, and I'm expecting to get averages into the 60's now as the temperature is rising. Most of my journeys are on motorways.
The dash indication of MPG is quite close to reality, no more than 2 mpg over optimistic, which is pretty good I feel, compared to the Volvo and VAG cars I had previously.
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