BMW 330e ordered...

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ceaton88

5 posts

103 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Is the 330e suitable for someone looking to do 20k + mileage a year?

I'm looking to change my 2015 Fiesta ST for a 3 series but struggling to decide on the right engine.

Initially looked at the 330d but the government war on diesels has me concerned resale value will sink over time.

330e looks like good alternative but I'm not convinced its proven itself.

BMW330enut

101 posts

91 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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ceaton88 said:
Is the 330e suitable for someone looking to do 20k + mileage a year?

I'm looking to change my 2015 Fiesta ST for a 3 series but struggling to decide on the right engine.

Initially looked at the 330d but the government war on diesels has me concerned resale value will sink over time.

330e looks like good alternative but I'm not convinced its proven itself.
I’ve had my 330e for 16 months now and just hit 42k. Nice cruiser with the ability to surprise when the fancy takes you.

Seems to be the subject of constant quality enhancements, I think it’s had one every time it’s been in and this week was no different. In for 2nd service and had a software reprogramme and a new starter motor fitted. All painless and without request so I’m not complaining.

Love the car, although it’s a little heavier on fuel than I’d hoped. I’ve averaged 41mpg over the 42k and charge at least once a day.

Shepster

136 posts

81 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Giz1972 said:
I’ve got to the point where I’ve just added all my music to a small 16gb memory stick and plugged it into the armrest slot.
Haven’t looked back, plus it saves my battery on my phone; all the details still come up on screen and you can use the toggle option too.
Not a bad idea at all, might have to do the same.

On a side note, after being dropped of by my wife in the car today, I immaturely asked her to drive off briskly so I could listen to it from the outside. Went from electric to high revs petrol and then to my surprise and utter delight the exhaust popped! Very childish thing to enjoy, but I can’t deny it sounded great.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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BMW330enut said:
I’ve had my 330e for 16 months now and just hit 42k. Nice cruiser with the ability to surprise when the fancy takes you.

Seems to be the subject of constant quality enhancements, I think it’s had one every time it’s been in and this week was no different. In for 2nd service and had a software reprogramme and a new starter motor fitted. All painless and without request so I’m not complaining.

Love the car, although it’s a little heavier on fuel than I’d hoped. I’ve averaged 41mpg over the 42k and charge at least once a day.
On a like for like Annual miles what would the 330d have offered you MPG wise? I’d wager you’d be 20mpg+

BMW330enut

101 posts

91 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Welshbeef said:
On a like for like Annual miles what would the 330d have offered you MPG wise? I’d wager you’d be 20mpg+
Previous car was an Audi A4 3.0tdi. This went back at 3 years old with 122k on the clock having averaged 53mpg over its life. The better fuel consumption and not paying to charge make it more cost effective. These cars only really make sense from a BIK perspective. Thankfullly I don’t pay for my fuel.

wobert

5,051 posts

222 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Update from me....on the stolen/recovered.

My 330e is still at the dealer awaiting a new CAS unit, key set, fobs and drivers lock barrel.

The parts were supposed to be ordered a week ago last Thursday, with the car booked Thursday just gone to have it all fitted.

The dealer, however decided to delay ordering the parts as they were awaiting authorisation from the insurance ( they never needed this, as had the insurance backed out, the bill would have landed with my company).

So, given the hire car work are paying was costing £65 per day, I asked if BMW would supply a car for the extra week FOC.

I must have been in luck, as they agreed and yesterday the Vauxhall Grandland X (Grandad?) went back to Europcar and was replaced by a G30 520d M Sport fully loaded.

Have to say I’m impressed with it, but would prefer my own wheels back TBH.

Martyn76

630 posts

117 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Hi Guys

Had the use of one of these cars over the weekend and loved it, currently have an 06 E91 330d, found the performance to be on a par and obvioulsy being 10 years newer everything seems to have been improved. Jjust wondering if anyone has one that isn't used as a company car, we do a lot of town driving (30/40mph) with the occasional longish drive (150 mile round trip) maybe once or twice a month, would you recommend one as a private\family car (I know the boot is shallower than normal)?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Martyn76 said:
Hi Guys

Had the use of one of these cars over the weekend and loved it, currently have an 06 E91 330d, found the performance to be on a par and obvioulsy being 10 years newer everything seems to have been improved. Jjust wondering if anyone has one that isn't used as a company car, we do a lot of town driving (30/40mph) with the occasional longish drive (150 mile round trip) maybe once or twice a month, would you recommend one as a private\family car (I know the boot is shallower than normal)?
It feels only as fast as a 12 year old 231bhp 330d? I’d expect a lot more than that TBH

South tdf

1,530 posts

195 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Most are company cars due to the BIK tax savings and don’t all cover high miles. There were quite a few on 2 year leases which have hit the used market resulting in a good value used cars as the average retail buyer probably does not know what they are.

As you mention the boot is not as big as the standard car but if you can make do with it why not. The biggest thing is finding one with decent options as most company car drivers order quite standard cars.

Martyn76

630 posts

117 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Welshbeef said:
It feels only as fast as a 12 year old 231bhp 330d? I’d expect a lot more than that TBH
To me? yeah, maybe there's something in the whole "no replacement for displacement" saying? If I drove say, an IS F I would imagine that would feel a lot quicker, although they have the same lb\ft output.

I'd say the gearbox made more difference, it's night and day with the old 6 speed auto but you would hope so after 10 years, I guess as it's more refined all round that might "numb" the senses somewhat?

Martyn76

630 posts

117 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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South tdf said:
Most are company cars due to the BIK tax savings and don’t all cover high miles. There were quite a few on 2 year leases which have hit the used market resulting in a good value used cars as the average retail buyer probably does not know what they are.

As you mention the boot is not as big as the standard car but if you can make do with it why not. The biggest thing is finding one with decent options as most company car drivers order quite standard cars.
It's the hybrid thing that interests me, school run\going to work is about 11 miles round trip on 40mph roads, so ideal for this type of car and the ability to travel further without the worry of range anxiety when required and also have some get and go when needed is really selling point, I fill up maybe twice an month at the moment, could see this turning into once a month (or even less frequent?) depending on charging and going to places further afield?


Robv1

87 posts

86 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Welshbeef said:
It feels only as fast as a 12 year old 231bhp 330d? I’d expect a lot more than that TBH
Remember the 2006 330d was a 3.0 six cylinder, with almost as much BHP as the 330e.
Acceleration figures were pretty smilier too.

Admittedly though, I wouldn't expect the 12 year old car to still perform as well.

craig1912

3,295 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Welshbeef said:
It feels only as fast as a 12 year old 231bhp 330d? I’d expect a lot more than that TBH
I’d expect similiar to be honest. I went from a 430d (258bhp)to the 330e and whilst I like the 330 and it saves a lot in BIK, it can’t really hold a candle to the 430s performance (outright acceleration and in gear)

jonwm

2,518 posts

114 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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craig1912 said:
Welshbeef said:
It feels only as fast as a 12 year old 231bhp 330d? I’d expect a lot more than that TBH
I’d expect similiar to be honest. I went from a 430d (258bhp)to the 330e and whilst I like the 330 and it saves a lot in BIK, it can’t really hold a candle to the 430s performance (outright acceleration and in gear)
Collegue has a 435d, I was telling him how I thought the 330e would be closer than he though, after leaving the 50 section of the M6 we both floored it and the e didn't even come close up to about 80, I though it would have been closer, he was long gone!

Not sure I'm imagining it but they feel quicker when fully charged

NeoVR

435 posts

171 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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The 'e only seems fast due to the 200lbft from the motor before the engine has even started, giving it a competitive 0-60

Once on the roll with the engine RPM climbing towards the redline, the torque output of the motor will drop off, by which point its just a much heavier 320i - as shown by only managing 140mph top speed.


Big GT

1,811 posts

92 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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craig1912 said:
Welshbeef said:
It feels only as fast as a 12 year old 231bhp 330d? I’d expect a lot more than that TBH
I’d expect similiar to be honest. I went from a 430d (258bhp)to the 330e and whilst I like the 330 and it saves a lot in BIK, it can’t really hold a candle to the 430s performance (outright acceleration and in gear)
I went from a 430d to a 330e for 2 months. The 430d was faster and 2mpg more economical overall on mostly m/way miles. Also the 330e was noticeable less agile.

On the plus side the 330e was really smooth and very quiet so not that much of a compromise from a x30d.

wobert

5,051 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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wobert said:
Update from me....on the stolen/recovered.

My 330e is still at the dealer awaiting a new CAS unit, key set, fobs and drivers lock barrel.

The parts were supposed to be ordered a week ago last Thursday, with the car booked Thursday just gone to have it all fitted.

The dealer, however decided to delay ordering the parts as they were awaiting authorisation from the insurance ( they never needed this, as had the insurance backed out, the bill would have landed with my company).

So, given the hire car work are paying was costing £65 per day, I asked if BMW would supply a car for the extra week FOC.

I must have been in luck, as they agreed and yesterday the Vauxhall Grandland X (Grandad?) went back to Europcar and was replaced by a G30 520d M Sport fully loaded.

Have to say I’m impressed with it, but would prefer my own wheels back TBH.
Sorry to quote myself.....but....

Rang the dealer for an update on the parts on order.

No update, not even an estimate of when the parts may land, so it looks like I’ll be in the loan car for a while.

Have to say I’m impressed with the G30.

Did a return trip to Edinburgh and back over the last two days.

On the return journey, the satnav took me down the Tweed valley from Edinburgh to Moffat before joining the A74(M).

It was an absolute peach to drive the valley, belieing it’s bulk through the bends, the lastest infotainment is also impressive, esp Apple CarPlay.


caseys

305 posts

168 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Seems I've done a fair few electric miles....

This would be impressive if not for the fact that my car has only done 38,000 miles in total.

Martyn76

630 posts

117 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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Big GT said:
I went from a 430d to a 330e for 2 months. The 430d was faster and 2mpg more economical overall on mostly m/way miles. Also the 330e was noticeable less agile.

On the plus side the 330e was really smooth and very quiet so not that much of a compromise from a x30d.
I think these are more of an "town car" if that makes sense, better for the urban crawl not long steady runs ( possibly at speed) where the bigger diesel excels?

Joscal

2,078 posts

200 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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Martyn76 said:
I think these are more of an "town car" if that makes sense, better for the urban crawl not long steady runs ( possibly at speed) where the bigger diesel excels?
I would agree it’s perfect for me with a 12 mile commute I’ve only filled mine once (£45) in two months it’s claiming 96mpg which is pretty impressive.