BMW 330e ordered...
Discussion
Orion917 said:
Typical Salesman! I think the advertised range was 27 miles? You have zero chance of ever acheiving that, or even close.
In summer, you will get 18 miles at best, with a fair wind, light foot and with the Climate Control off. In Winter that falls to 12 miles if you precondition it first and drive with a lighter foot. Welcome to the world of the PHEV!
That said, it's a fantastic bit of kit, very fast when needed and my 30k average went up to 58.9MPG over the summer
So I'm not complaining.
Luckily for me I will soon be back in my 3.4 N/A Porsche haha.In summer, you will get 18 miles at best, with a fair wind, light foot and with the Climate Control off. In Winter that falls to 12 miles if you precondition it first and drive with a lighter foot. Welcome to the world of the PHEV!
That said, it's a fantastic bit of kit, very fast when needed and my 30k average went up to 58.9MPG over the summer
So I'm not complaining. If the Porsche had an electric only mode built in however I would use it for work trips, it does have an appeal which hopefully in the future than can make stretch a lot further.
barnsleyshaun said:
Finally got the car today, August registered 330e M Sport Shadow Edition with the Pro Nav and heated seats as the options. I’ve tried to upload a photo but it ends upside down for some reason?
I fully charged it at work before coming home and it reckoned it had 29 miles, my home is 16 miles from work. I got all the way home on electric only including a stretch on the A1 with 1 mile left. I didn’t have the blowers on at all (so windscreen was steaming up a bit!) but I did have the radio on.
One thing I’m really disappointed in is the speakers, it’s got the Harmon kardon as standard in the shadow edition but it sounds as though I’m listening though a bucket? I did have the burmester system in the merc and that was excellent but I don’t think it’s just me comparing to what I’m used to, the wife had a 52 plate golf gti and the sound was better in that, I don’t know if something is wrong with it.
Oh and the pro nav has touchscreen in it.
I assume you have you changed / tweaked the HK equalizer settings? If not, no point having it. I have it in my msport and it is excellent but it was like listening through a tin can when I got the car. Took a wee bit of time to find what suited, the 100hz & 200hz in particular needed severe adjustment.I fully charged it at work before coming home and it reckoned it had 29 miles, my home is 16 miles from work. I got all the way home on electric only including a stretch on the A1 with 1 mile left. I didn’t have the blowers on at all (so windscreen was steaming up a bit!) but I did have the radio on.
One thing I’m really disappointed in is the speakers, it’s got the Harmon kardon as standard in the shadow edition but it sounds as though I’m listening though a bucket? I did have the burmester system in the merc and that was excellent but I don’t think it’s just me comparing to what I’m used to, the wife had a 52 plate golf gti and the sound was better in that, I don’t know if something is wrong with it.
Oh and the pro nav has touchscreen in it.
DragonflyTrumpeter said:
I assume you have you changed / tweaked the HK equalizer settings? If not, no point having it. I have it in my msport and it is excellent but it was like listening through a tin can when I got the car. Took a wee bit of time to find what suited, the 100hz & 200hz in particular needed severe adjustment.
HiI've had a quick fumble with the bass and treble thats all- any recommendations as to setting?
cheers
DragonflyTrumpeter said:
I assume you have you changed / tweaked the HK equalizer settings? If not, no point having it. I have it in my msport and it is excellent but it was like listening through a tin can when I got the car. Took a wee bit of time to find what suited, the 100hz & 200hz in particular needed severe adjustment.
I've actually just found this threadwhich may be useful:https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t...
DragonflyTrumpeter said:
There are a number of threads on differing forums re this, great to find some help then potter around with it to suit your own preference.
I am away now and do not remember my settings, sorry.
Just changed the settings to one of the suggested in that thread and then tweaked the bass up a bit, it’s much better now. I’m amazed though it comes set up as badly as it does, I honestly thought there must have been something wrong with the entire system.I am away now and do not remember my settings, sorry.
barnsleyshaun said:
DragonflyTrumpeter said:
There are a number of threads on differing forums re this, great to find some help then potter around with it to suit your own preference.
I am away now and do not remember my settings, sorry.
Just changed the settings to one of the suggested in that thread and then tweaked the bass up a bit, it’s much better now. I’m amazed though it comes set up as badly as it does, I honestly thought there must have been something wrong with the entire system.I am away now and do not remember my settings, sorry.
wobert said:
Ok, who is guilty of:
(A) Buying or leasing a hybrid for “tax purposes”?
(B) Never plugging it in to charge?
(C) Using a car “designed for local trips” on the motorway?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46152853
What do you expect the outcome is going to be when there are no public charging stations available where i live in the city of edinburgh slash any major town in scotland (not sure about england major cities) (A) Buying or leasing a hybrid for “tax purposes”?
(B) Never plugging it in to charge?
(C) Using a car “designed for local trips” on the motorway?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46152853
When flats are the main cities in the UK, you expect the minister incharge of this to idenity this issue at the start of planing infastructure for any type of EV vechile scheme to be successful.
I frequently travel o/s for work and its fairly obvious any country in Scandinavia and benelux this is supported in the major cities.
the 7 Ps are fairly relevant here... Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
Edinburger said:
That's good to know.
I'm getting 50.8mpg on average. Done around 12K miles in six months, charging overnight at home and occasionaly at roadside charging stations.
Its interesting to see another 330e driver from Edinburgh here. wish i could share your epic fuel consumption. I have had mine for 1 years now and im getting 28mpg in town and approx 40mpg on the motor way. Probably charged the car around 10 times and thats at the workshop down near leeds and a couple times at the park and ride.I'm getting 50.8mpg on average. Done around 12K miles in six months, charging overnight at home and occasionaly at roadside charging stations.
Can't complain thought because im paying around the same tax as my rental Renu Kadjar i had before receving my 330e shadow ed. I'll enjoy the last 2 years before they most likely will end this tax break and at the point ill probably take the car allowance instead as i dont travel that regularly.
Edited by hyb1d on Tuesday 20th November 12:34
hyb1d said:
wobert said:
Ok, who is guilty of:
(A) Buying or leasing a hybrid for “tax purposes”?
(B) Never plugging it in to charge?
(C) Using a car “designed for local trips” on the motorway?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46152853
What do you expect the outcome is going to be when there are no public charging stations available where i live in the city of edinburgh slash any major town in scotland (not sure about england major cities) (A) Buying or leasing a hybrid for “tax purposes”?
(B) Never plugging it in to charge?
(C) Using a car “designed for local trips” on the motorway?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46152853
When flats are the main cities in the UK, you expect the minister incharge of this to idenity this issue at the start of planing infastructure for any type of EV vechile scheme to be successful.
I frequently travel o/s for work and its fairly obvious any country in Scandinavia and benelux this is supported in the major cities.
the 7 Ps are fairly relevant here... Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
Edinburger said:
That's good to know.
I'm getting 50.8mpg on average. Done around 12K miles in six months, charging overnight at home and occasionaly at roadside charging stations.
Its interesting to see another 330e driver from Edinburgh here. wish i could share your epic fuel consumption. I have had mine for 1 years now and im getting 28mpg in town and approx 40mpg on the motor way. Probably charged the car around 10 times and thats at the workshop down near leeds and a couple times at the park and ride.I'm getting 50.8mpg on average. Done around 12K miles in six months, charging overnight at home and occasionaly at roadside charging stations.
Can't complain thought because im paying around the same tax as my rental Renu Kadjar i had before receving my 330e shadow ed. I'll enjoy the last 2 years before they most likely will end this tax break and at the point ill probably take the car allowance instead as i dont travel that regularly.
Edited by hyb1d on Tuesday 20th November 12:34
I have a charger at home so charge it overnight and I travel all over Scoitland, so if I'm lucky I can charge wherever I'm off to.
Regardless of the fuel economy - they're cracking cars.
So I’ve had my 17 plater 330e for 18 months now, been pleased up until 10 days ago when I received the ‘Red Ring of Death‘ whilst charging overnight and the Mains Voltage Too Low warning message.
Since then the car has been in 2 separate days and they still cannot find the problem, they want to “strip out the wiring’ which will take 3 days... and here’s the best bit, can’t supply a loaner until late December.
I assume it’s the KLE unit as other people have seen the same fault which seems to have passed over BMWs heads.
I’ve been told if I call BMW assist they will come out, take the car away and supply a hire car.
Is this correct ? Will I be able to cut the wait for a loan vehicle by using this route ?
Anyone had the same issue ?
Since then the car has been in 2 separate days and they still cannot find the problem, they want to “strip out the wiring’ which will take 3 days... and here’s the best bit, can’t supply a loaner until late December.
I assume it’s the KLE unit as other people have seen the same fault which seems to have passed over BMWs heads.
I’ve been told if I call BMW assist they will come out, take the car away and supply a hire car.
Is this correct ? Will I be able to cut the wait for a loan vehicle by using this route ?
Anyone had the same issue ?
Wonks said:
So I’ve had my 17 plater 330e for 18 months now, been pleased up until 10 days ago when I received the ‘Red Ring of Death‘ whilst charging overnight and the Mains Voltage Too Low warning message.
Since then the car has been in 2 separate days and they still cannot find the problem, they want to “strip out the wiring’ which will take 3 days... and here’s the best bit, can’t supply a loaner until late December.
I assume it’s the KLE unit as other people have seen the same fault which seems to have passed over BMWs heads.
I’ve been told if I call BMW assist they will come out, take the car away and supply a hire car.
Is this correct ? Will I be able to cut the wait for a loan vehicle by using this route ?
Anyone had the same issue ?
When I had my 330e stolen and availability of parts out of Germany were delayed I got the dealer to contact BMW UK to supply a car.Since then the car has been in 2 separate days and they still cannot find the problem, they want to “strip out the wiring’ which will take 3 days... and here’s the best bit, can’t supply a loaner until late December.
I assume it’s the KLE unit as other people have seen the same fault which seems to have passed over BMWs heads.
I’ve been told if I call BMW assist they will come out, take the car away and supply a hire car.
Is this correct ? Will I be able to cut the wait for a loan vehicle by using this route ?
Anyone had the same issue ?
BMW rentals are done via Enterprise. They gave me G20 520d for four weeks.
Wonks said:
So I’ve had my 17 plater 330e for 18 months now, been pleased up until 10 days ago when I received the ‘Red Ring of Death‘ whilst charging overnight and the Mains Voltage Too Low warning message.
Since then the car has been in 2 separate days and they still cannot find the problem, they want to “strip out the wiring’ which will take 3 days... and here’s the best bit, can’t supply a loaner until late December.
I assume it’s the KLE unit as other people have seen the same fault which seems to have passed over BMWs heads.
I’ve been told if I call BMW assist they will come out, take the car away and supply a hire car.
Is this correct ? Will I be able to cut the wait for a loan vehicle by using this route ?
Anyone had the same issue ?
The KLE on mine went kaput. The dealer I booked into actually advised me to call BMW Assist, which I did. Flatbedded on Friday late afternoon, loan car delivered Saturday, and got it back the following Wednesday. The only thing that bugged me was stumping up a £250 deposit on the loaner.Since then the car has been in 2 separate days and they still cannot find the problem, they want to “strip out the wiring’ which will take 3 days... and here’s the best bit, can’t supply a loaner until late December.
I assume it’s the KLE unit as other people have seen the same fault which seems to have passed over BMWs heads.
I’ve been told if I call BMW assist they will come out, take the car away and supply a hire car.
Is this correct ? Will I be able to cut the wait for a loan vehicle by using this route ?
Anyone had the same issue ?
Good luck with yours.
Somebody said:
The KLE on mine went kaput. The dealer I booked into actually advised me to call BMW Assist, which I did. Flatbedded on Friday late afternoon, loan car delivered Saturday, and got it back the following Wednesday. The only thing that bugged me was stumping up a £250 deposit on the loaner.
Good luck with yours.
I’ve got a loan car coming this morning, been told I’ve got to stump up £50 deposit. Always fearful of car hire companies. I’ll be taking plenty of photos when it turns up. Hopefully repairs will not take long.Good luck with yours.
Somebody said:
The KLE on mine went kaput. The dealer I booked into actually advised me to call BMW Assist, which I did. Flatbedded on Friday late afternoon, loan car delivered Saturday, and got it back the following Wednesday. The only thing that bugged me was stumping up a £250 deposit on the loaner.
Good luck with yours.
Did you get your deposit back ok? Or did they rip you off ?Good luck with yours.
What's everyone's thoughts on the numerous articles in the last day or two, calling for plug in hybrids to be banned from, ermmmm plugging in?
There have been suggestions that plug in hybrids shouldn't be allowed to use public charging stations because a) they take too long to charge and b) they CAN continue their journey on petrol.
Personally, I think it's typical of the current government. They've scrapped solar panel schemes, scrapped or cut EV grants and now they are saying that if you CAN use electric could we please use petrol instead?
If Trump had said these things in the last 3 months he'd be shot down. But we are too busy banging on about Brexit.
Sort your charging infra structure out! Don't encourage us all to buy electric and then blame us for using charging points!
Invest in more, reliable charging points. Sort out the ridiculous payment schemes that mean you have about 5 accounts going on at once. And make EVs an attractive proposition, rather than shouting out about how difficult it is to charge them because of selfish people who also want to charge.
But, as previously mentioned, our government is making most environmentally sound electric generating and using things a lot less attractive at the moment.
Side note, would i3 drivers with a range extender be allowed to plug in?
There have been suggestions that plug in hybrids shouldn't be allowed to use public charging stations because a) they take too long to charge and b) they CAN continue their journey on petrol.
Personally, I think it's typical of the current government. They've scrapped solar panel schemes, scrapped or cut EV grants and now they are saying that if you CAN use electric could we please use petrol instead?
If Trump had said these things in the last 3 months he'd be shot down. But we are too busy banging on about Brexit.
Sort your charging infra structure out! Don't encourage us all to buy electric and then blame us for using charging points!
Invest in more, reliable charging points. Sort out the ridiculous payment schemes that mean you have about 5 accounts going on at once. And make EVs an attractive proposition, rather than shouting out about how difficult it is to charge them because of selfish people who also want to charge.
But, as previously mentioned, our government is making most environmentally sound electric generating and using things a lot less attractive at the moment.
Side note, would i3 drivers with a range extender be allowed to plug in?
I kinda agree with them - although its badly reported (as usual)
The charging infrastructure has made a rod for their own back by not having a clear distinction between "normal" chargers and rapid chargers, so your average company Outlander phev road-warrior will rock up at a services, plug into a rapid charger feeling smug and go for a coffee for an hour to net him 10 miles extra range (and then probably claim the cost of charge back too, even as its disproportionately expensive for small-battery PHEVS)
IMHO - PHEVS shouldn't be allowed to plug into rapid chargers but "normal" 7.2kw destination chargers are fair game.
I know the ecotricity app asks for your car details, and it will warn you if your car doesn't do rapid charging, but really the only solution is probably to only provide CCS/chademo connectivity and not type2 - and also better enforcement of usage.
The charging infrastructure has made a rod for their own back by not having a clear distinction between "normal" chargers and rapid chargers, so your average company Outlander phev road-warrior will rock up at a services, plug into a rapid charger feeling smug and go for a coffee for an hour to net him 10 miles extra range (and then probably claim the cost of charge back too, even as its disproportionately expensive for small-battery PHEVS)
IMHO - PHEVS shouldn't be allowed to plug into rapid chargers but "normal" 7.2kw destination chargers are fair game.
I know the ecotricity app asks for your car details, and it will warn you if your car doesn't do rapid charging, but really the only solution is probably to only provide CCS/chademo connectivity and not type2 - and also better enforcement of usage.
REALIST123 said:
Autoexpress reported it. An RAC commissioned study apparently.
It's a bit of a naff report (I'd love to see 15 miles from an hour charge at 3.6kW off my 330e!). No PHEV gets 4 miles / kWh.My point still stands - you could get higher utilisation of charge points if using apps such as chargebump - or simply for those charging apps, build that functionality into each app (not sure what you'd do for purely RFID users). It's better to have closer to 100% utilisation of a chargepoint by any vehicle than a lower utilisation but with a higher proportion of purely EV vehicles.
Or simply have fast charges which only have CCS, Type-1 etc and no standard Type 2 - just have Type 2 on 7/11kW posts.
But hey, my viewpoint of this might change when my i3 turns up in Feb :-)
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