C350e 2834 miles on the clock now
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You really need Supermono to come back with a reply; I believe he said he was due a few long distance trips in it.
What I can tell you is that on the 20 mile commutes I was making (mainly motorway), I was pulling back circa 2 miles in regen braking and coasting. Assuming you can reclaim about 10% on a journey and leave with a fully charged car, you should manage around 40 miles of electricity.
The Merc will come into its own when the journey is at its worst; so heavy traffic and lots of stop-start will see the economy figures outperform a diesel due to the electricity getting you up to speed.
What I can tell you is that on the 20 mile commutes I was making (mainly motorway), I was pulling back circa 2 miles in regen braking and coasting. Assuming you can reclaim about 10% on a journey and leave with a fully charged car, you should manage around 40 miles of electricity.
The Merc will come into its own when the journey is at its worst; so heavy traffic and lots of stop-start will see the economy figures outperform a diesel due to the electricity getting you up to speed.
40mpg on longer runs is easily achievable.
This morning I left for my 22mile b-road commute with c20% charge. The car averaged 39mpg and arrived with 20% charge.
Long term average for my car only charging once per day is 41mpg over 1600miles including easter weekend away and 300miles with no chraging. My 22 mile commute can be 99.9mpg assuming full charge when leaving, driving quicker and it only drops to 65mpg. My previous E91 335d would do 35mpg.
I worked out crudely electric is 50% the cost of petrol - normal tariff electric, obviously bigger saving if you have a white meter
We have 3x C350e at work. Once chap as done 3,500miles since 1 March and has averaged 48mpg generally charging twice per day.
I will put a better report in the other C350e thread but 1 month in i am very impressed.
This morning I left for my 22mile b-road commute with c20% charge. The car averaged 39mpg and arrived with 20% charge.
Long term average for my car only charging once per day is 41mpg over 1600miles including easter weekend away and 300miles with no chraging. My 22 mile commute can be 99.9mpg assuming full charge when leaving, driving quicker and it only drops to 65mpg. My previous E91 335d would do 35mpg.
I worked out crudely electric is 50% the cost of petrol - normal tariff electric, obviously bigger saving if you have a white meter
We have 3x C350e at work. Once chap as done 3,500miles since 1 March and has averaged 48mpg generally charging twice per day.
I will put a better report in the other C350e thread but 1 month in i am very impressed.
The Beaver King said:
You really need Supermono to come back with a reply; I believe he said he was due a few long distance trips in it.
What I can tell you is that on the 20 mile commutes I was making (mainly motorway), I was pulling back circa 2 miles in regen braking and coasting. Assuming you can reclaim about 10% on a journey and leave with a fully charged car, you should manage around 40 miles of electricity.
The Merc will come into its own when the journey is at its worst; so heavy traffic and lots of stop-start will see the economy figures outperform a diesel due to the electricity getting you up to speed.
Thats what I'm hoping. Some seem to be seeing an average of 45-55mpg without excessive charging. Just using it like a prius etc.What I can tell you is that on the 20 mile commutes I was making (mainly motorway), I was pulling back circa 2 miles in regen braking and coasting. Assuming you can reclaim about 10% on a journey and leave with a fully charged car, you should manage around 40 miles of electricity.
The Merc will come into its own when the journey is at its worst; so heavy traffic and lots of stop-start will see the economy figures outperform a diesel due to the electricity getting you up to speed.
Ruxpin said:
40mpg on longer runs is easily achievable.
This morning I left for my 22mile b-road commute with c20% charge. The car averaged 39mpg and arrived with 20% charge.
Long term average for my car only charging once per day is 41mpg over 1600miles including easter weekend away and 300miles with no chraging. My 22 mile commute can be 99.9mpg assuming full charge when leaving, driving quicker and it only drops to 65mpg. My previous E91 335d would do 35mpg.
I worked out crudely electric is 50% the cost of petrol - normal tariff electric, obviously bigger saving if you have a white meter
We have 3x C350e at work. Once chap as done 3,500miles since 1 March and has averaged 48mpg generally charging twice per day.
I will put a better report in the other C350e thread but 1 month in i am very impressed.
Thanks, all perfect figures for me. I'm going to get on to our fleet manager today to make sure I can get it all though etc.This morning I left for my 22mile b-road commute with c20% charge. The car averaged 39mpg and arrived with 20% charge.
Long term average for my car only charging once per day is 41mpg over 1600miles including easter weekend away and 300miles with no chraging. My 22 mile commute can be 99.9mpg assuming full charge when leaving, driving quicker and it only drops to 65mpg. My previous E91 335d would do 35mpg.
I worked out crudely electric is 50% the cost of petrol - normal tariff electric, obviously bigger saving if you have a white meter
We have 3x C350e at work. Once chap as done 3,500miles since 1 March and has averaged 48mpg generally charging twice per day.
I will put a better report in the other C350e thread but 1 month in i am very impressed.
jason61c said:
Thats what I'm hoping. Some seem to be seeing an average of 45-55mpg without excessive charging. Just using it like a prius etc.
Obviously the car is setup to give best economic results when fully charged at the start of each journey, but I've heard of people achieving around 40mpg without using the plug-in facility and driving it like a normal petrol car.Mine will be charged every night and again at work, so my commute should cost me very little compared to a diesel.
I actually sat down and worked out the total cost (including BiK savings etc), but I can't find the spreadsheet now. From memory, I think a full charge at home cost me circa £1 on a standard electricity contract and charging from the mains. Having a charger fitted or having a 7/7 tariff will obviously be cheaper.
My 20 mile commute returned around 67-72 mpg, although I have read about people tweaking the settings for suspension and manually controlling the electric motor achieving better figures.
If you sit at 70-75mph on the motorway, you should see slightly north of 45mpg on a 200 mile trip. That said, you may need to read up on the MB forum for find the best setup to achieve that.
The Beaver King said:
Obviously the car is setup to give best economic results when fully charged at the start of each journey, but I've heard of people achieving around 40mpg without using the plug-in facility and driving it like a normal petrol car.
Mine will be charged every night and again at work, so my commute should cost me very little compared to a diesel.
I actually sat down and worked out the total cost (including BiK savings etc), but I can't find the spreadsheet now. From memory, I think a full charge at home cost me circa £1 on a standard electricity contract and charging from the mains. Having a charger fitted or having a 7/7 tariff will obviously be cheaper.
My 20 mile commute returned around 67-72 mpg, although I have read about people tweaking the settings for suspension and manually controlling the electric motor achieving better figures.
If you sit at 70-75mph on the motorway, you should see slightly north of 45mpg on a 200 mile trip. That said, you may need to read up on the MB forum for find the best setup to achieve that.
Again, thanks.Mine will be charged every night and again at work, so my commute should cost me very little compared to a diesel.
I actually sat down and worked out the total cost (including BiK savings etc), but I can't find the spreadsheet now. From memory, I think a full charge at home cost me circa £1 on a standard electricity contract and charging from the mains. Having a charger fitted or having a 7/7 tariff will obviously be cheaper.
My 20 mile commute returned around 67-72 mpg, although I have read about people tweaking the settings for suspension and manually controlling the electric motor achieving better figures.
If you sit at 70-75mph on the motorway, you should see slightly north of 45mpg on a 200 mile trip. That said, you may need to read up on the MB forum for find the best setup to achieve that.
I've just pinged off an email to my fleet manager.
It does fit the bill for me in many ways. It's also the best car to drive and be in compared to its rivals(330e/225xe/gt-e/e-tron)
So a 136mile trip this morning - Down the A14/A1 and back at 70mph ish and then 22miles of b-road.
I did not charge the vehicle over night so left with c16% charge.
Mainly in eco/hybrid mode with sat nav on and left it to sort itself. On the way it charged the battery to c40% on the A14/A1 so I could drive through the town at destination in e-mode. On the way back it didn't charge the batteries as no town at destination.
136miles, average 41mph, 43.4mpg and 43miles with the engine off. I think that is pretty good for basically a 2ltr petrol turbo
Edit: add 1x full charge, about £0.60 worth, and the figures for the day are 159miles, average 39mph, 46.3mpg and 60miles with the engine off. Final charge 28% so could have been better if all the charge had been used.
I did not charge the vehicle over night so left with c16% charge.
Mainly in eco/hybrid mode with sat nav on and left it to sort itself. On the way it charged the battery to c40% on the A14/A1 so I could drive through the town at destination in e-mode. On the way back it didn't charge the batteries as no town at destination.
136miles, average 41mph, 43.4mpg and 43miles with the engine off. I think that is pretty good for basically a 2ltr petrol turbo
Edit: add 1x full charge, about £0.60 worth, and the figures for the day are 159miles, average 39mph, 46.3mpg and 60miles with the engine off. Final charge 28% so could have been better if all the charge had been used.
Edited by Ruxpin on Tuesday 19th April 20:20
I know we all want great mpg but you get less pence per mile in a diesel, say 8/9ppm whereas an employer may pay 12ppm in this as its petrol.
That means instantly it can do way less mpg than a diesel and you still get paid the same.
Your BIK may be £150pm cheaper too
The car is much faster and smoother than most comparative diesels.
If you have a job that gives you a £40k company car then adding an extra tenders worth of fuel in doesn't really matter, does it?
But, yes, if you can do 100mpg then great
That means instantly it can do way less mpg than a diesel and you still get paid the same.
Your BIK may be £150pm cheaper too
The car is much faster and smoother than most comparative diesels.
If you have a job that gives you a £40k company car then adding an extra tenders worth of fuel in doesn't really matter, does it?
But, yes, if you can do 100mpg then great
jonah35 said:
What I don't fully understand is people saying the car costs £1 to charge the car with electricity and then saying it goes 10 miles on electricity.
Therefore to go 60 miles on electricity it costs c.£6, no?
Is that not broadly similar to diesel/petrol?
I calculated it to be more like £0.60 for 12miles so half the cost of Petrol/diesel. Economy7 tariff and it would be cheaper still. Battery is 6.2KW, less the 10% it keeps in reserve.Therefore to go 60 miles on electricity it costs c.£6, no?
Is that not broadly similar to diesel/petrol?
So my new C350e turned up last Wednesday and I am really happy so far. I love the blue:
I've put around 650 miles on her in the last 6 days and I'm currently averaging around 44mpg. 400 miles of that were 100+ mile trips, so I'm happy with the mpg. I've only been into the office twice in that time, but both 19 mile commutes returned 88.2mpg, with around 14-15 miles of that on the battery. Over the next few weeks I'm expecting the avergae mpg to really pick up and settle around 50-60mpg.
I've had the standard trim as it is a company car, but the quality and quantity of toys is still really good. The sat-nav is excellent, the ride is comfy and the car really goes when you put your foot down.
Only a few negative points really; the rear is a bit cramped, so don't plan on taking 3 adults in the back on a long journey. The boot space is shallow, but this is not unexpected. The UI is not really intuitive and can take a bit of time to boot up from start. That's about it really.
I am struggling with a few bits though; does anybody have a list of the available voice commands or know how to use voice activated dialing? I can't find any option for it and it seems like a fairly basic requirement these days to omit it...
I also can't figure out the pre-heat settings; I've found a Hybrid menu on the dash screen, but it doesn't really explain what or how it works. Any advice would be appreciated
I've put around 650 miles on her in the last 6 days and I'm currently averaging around 44mpg. 400 miles of that were 100+ mile trips, so I'm happy with the mpg. I've only been into the office twice in that time, but both 19 mile commutes returned 88.2mpg, with around 14-15 miles of that on the battery. Over the next few weeks I'm expecting the avergae mpg to really pick up and settle around 50-60mpg.
I've had the standard trim as it is a company car, but the quality and quantity of toys is still really good. The sat-nav is excellent, the ride is comfy and the car really goes when you put your foot down.
Only a few negative points really; the rear is a bit cramped, so don't plan on taking 3 adults in the back on a long journey. The boot space is shallow, but this is not unexpected. The UI is not really intuitive and can take a bit of time to boot up from start. That's about it really.
I am struggling with a few bits though; does anybody have a list of the available voice commands or know how to use voice activated dialing? I can't find any option for it and it seems like a fairly basic requirement these days to omit it...
I also can't figure out the pre-heat settings; I've found a Hybrid menu on the dash screen, but it doesn't really explain what or how it works. Any advice would be appreciated
Hi guys
I am about to choose my new company car and have test driven the C350e and I have to say I loved it.
Can any of you help me with fuel costs for high mileage drivers? I have been advised the car is better for low mileage driving, but I want to use it for my day to day travels of approx 150 miles. The problem I have is, that if I choose this car, I will loose the company fuel card and have to claim back fuel on a pence per mile basis... they have set this at 14p per mile.
I really would like to order this car, but would like any advise or evidence of fuel usage.
Most of my lies are a mix of motorway 70% and industrial estates and built up areas 30%.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Jonny
I am about to choose my new company car and have test driven the C350e and I have to say I loved it.
Can any of you help me with fuel costs for high mileage drivers? I have been advised the car is better for low mileage driving, but I want to use it for my day to day travels of approx 150 miles. The problem I have is, that if I choose this car, I will loose the company fuel card and have to claim back fuel on a pence per mile basis... they have set this at 14p per mile.
I really would like to order this car, but would like any advise or evidence of fuel usage.
Most of my lies are a mix of motorway 70% and industrial estates and built up areas 30%.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Jonny
JonnyBoy76 said:
Hi guys
I am about to choose my new company car and have test driven the C350e and I have to say I loved it.
Can any of you help me with fuel costs for high mileage drivers? I have been advised the car is better for low mileage driving, but I want to use it for my day to day travels of approx 150 miles. The problem I have is, that if I choose this car, I will loose the company fuel card and have to claim back fuel on a pence per mile basis... they have set this at 14p per mile.
I really would like to order this car, but would like any advise or evidence of fuel usage.
Most of my lies are a mix of motorway 70% and industrial estates and built up areas 30%.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Jonny
I drive mine what I would call normally. Keep up with motorway traffic, the odd bit of using the acceleration potential etc...I am about to choose my new company car and have test driven the C350e and I have to say I loved it.
Can any of you help me with fuel costs for high mileage drivers? I have been advised the car is better for low mileage driving, but I want to use it for my day to day travels of approx 150 miles. The problem I have is, that if I choose this car, I will loose the company fuel card and have to claim back fuel on a pence per mile basis... they have set this at 14p per mile.
I really would like to order this car, but would like any advise or evidence of fuel usage.
Most of my lies are a mix of motorway 70% and industrial estates and built up areas 30%.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Jonny
I get around 400 miles or slightly more out of a tank. Today it cost £53 to fill up.
So if you drive like me you'll make a penny a mile.
Don't forget the massive b.i.k saving over most similar cars as well.
This reply is exactly what I needed to hear.
The BIK benefit is huge, it's about £200 on the standard one, and about £100 if I go for the AMG one - which is probably what I will do as it's still cheaper than the Audi A5 TDI I am currently driving.
Thanks for your time to reply to me..
Jonny
The BIK benefit is huge, it's about £200 on the standard one, and about £100 if I go for the AMG one - which is probably what I will do as it's still cheaper than the Audi A5 TDI I am currently driving.
Thanks for your time to reply to me..
Jonny
JonnyBoy76 said:
This reply is exactly what I needed to hear.
The BIK benefit is huge, it's about £200 on the standard one, and about £100 if I go for the AMG one - which is probably what I will do as it's still cheaper than the Audi A5 TDI I am currently driving.
Thanks for your time to reply to me..
Jonny
I have a standard sport, I am in the higher tax bracket and pay only £96 a month. The AMG or 18" wheeled version will be double that. The BIK benefit is huge, it's about £200 on the standard one, and about £100 if I go for the AMG one - which is probably what I will do as it's still cheaper than the Audi A5 TDI I am currently driving.
Thanks for your time to reply to me..
Jonny
I probably would have liked the amg version if it were around when I got mine, but is it worth an extra £100 in your pocket every month?
This is the exact thing I have been thinking of constantly..
I could save £200 a month.. take the sport version which I test drove..
Or take £100 a month saving and the wheels and body styling I really want...
The way I have decided is I do prefer the AMG and it will still be a saving over the car I drive now.. albeit less than I could.. but hey, we can all be sensible and drive lesser cars... I am fortunate to be able to choose such a car and want to take advantage of it... and it's like my own little reward for doing a good job.
I needed to know about the fuel, because of it was not likely to be paid for my the 14ppm I can claim back... I was going to have the sport one.. I just know that after 12 months I would be wishing I had the AMG.
As long as I am saving on my current car... I am winning - that's how I sold it to myself. Lol
Thanks again
I could save £200 a month.. take the sport version which I test drove..
Or take £100 a month saving and the wheels and body styling I really want...
The way I have decided is I do prefer the AMG and it will still be a saving over the car I drive now.. albeit less than I could.. but hey, we can all be sensible and drive lesser cars... I am fortunate to be able to choose such a car and want to take advantage of it... and it's like my own little reward for doing a good job.
I needed to know about the fuel, because of it was not likely to be paid for my the 14ppm I can claim back... I was going to have the sport one.. I just know that after 12 months I would be wishing I had the AMG.
As long as I am saving on my current car... I am winning - that's how I sold it to myself. Lol
Thanks again
I've had mine almost 18mths and have done 27k miles. Overall average is about 45mpg, but I've done a few long drives without charging as well holidays in France, again without charging and driven normally (I.e. Not in Sport+) then 41mpg is the norm.
As other have said the main benefit, apart from it being a nice place to be, is the bik saving, but don't forget this jumps by 4% next April.
As other have said the main benefit, apart from it being a nice place to be, is the bik saving, but don't forget this jumps by 4% next April.
Hi, thanks for your info..
I'm sure I noticed the increase.. it goes up each year for three years then back down a little in the 4th..
This increase is in line with all cars tho isn't it? E.g. An Audi A5 petrol is at 23% and goes up next year to 27%?
Thanks to the fuel being covered at 14ppm from what I have had from you guys, I am going to order the car next week.
Thanks
Jonny
I'm sure I noticed the increase.. it goes up each year for three years then back down a little in the 4th..
This increase is in line with all cars tho isn't it? E.g. An Audi A5 petrol is at 23% and goes up next year to 27%?
Thanks to the fuel being covered at 14ppm from what I have had from you guys, I am going to order the car next week.
Thanks
Jonny
JonnyBoy76 said:
Hi, thanks for your info..
I'm sure I noticed the increase.. it goes up each year for three years then back down a little in the 4th..
This increase is in line with all cars tho isn't it? E.g. An Audi A5 petrol is at 23% and goes up next year to 27%?
Thanks to the fuel being covered at 14ppm from what I have had from you guys, I am going to order the car next week.
Thanks
Jonny
Indeed. People seem very quick to point out the increase in BiK for PHEVs but then neglect to remember ICE is increasing too and is still far more costly in tax than the hybrid equivalents. I'm sure I noticed the increase.. it goes up each year for three years then back down a little in the 4th..
This increase is in line with all cars tho isn't it? E.g. An Audi A5 petrol is at 23% and goes up next year to 27%?
Thanks to the fuel being covered at 14ppm from what I have had from you guys, I am going to order the car next week.
Thanks
Jonny
I’ve ordered a PHEV and can swallow a big fall in MPG before I come close to being out of pocket each month.
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