golf GTE?

[Pints]

darren f said:

I have a 2016 GTE as a CC and on the whole am pleased with it. My daily commute is 21 miles each way, so pretty much on the limit of making it a sensible choice economy wise. It enables me to do one way on electric power (the EL range is 23-24 miles at best) and to use the petrol engine in GTE mode (which activates trickle charging / energy recovery) for the beginning of the return journey, this boosts the EL range to 6 or so miles, so I'm getting 27m on EL / 15m on petrol. With shorter journeys being EL only I regularly get 100+ mpg. Overall I think it works out about 7p/mile on combined fuel costs, but I am not on an off peak EL tariff, so it could be less. I get paid my business mileage at a set 1400cc petrol rate, plus the CC tax is comparatively low so, for me as a CC choice it is a 'no brainier'.

80 miles / day may well be different. A lot depends on whether this constitutes private mileage (at your cost) or paid for / free fuel business mileage. And if you are able to fully charge at work at no cost. If you can charge both ends, you could achieve a 60m EL / 20m petrol split- which would be pretty attractive. On only one charge only it could be a sub 30m EL / over 50m petrol split. Bear in mind I think on petrol only I think 35mpg+ requires careful driving and anything >60mph absolutely eats the range on EL only. If your 40m journey includes any clear motorway running the EL range will easily be sub 20 miles (... much of my journey is rural back road and busy A-road, typically 40-50mph driving- massively helping range and economy).

Thanks for the reply.
Fuel costs are all my own and my company does not offer charging points (free or otherwise). Of the 80 miles I do each day, about 68 are motorway miles. I currently get low 50s MPG-wise in my diesel (high 50s if I bother trying to be economical), so would need to see if the BIK saving is destroyed by the petrol-only MPG with the GTE.

[darren f]

Pints said:

Thanks for the reply.
Fuel costs are all my own and my company does not offer charging points (free or otherwise). Of the 80 miles I do each day, about 68 are motorway miles. I currently get low 50s MPG-wise in my diesel (high 50s if I bother trying to be economical), so would need to see if the BIK saving is destroyed by the petrol-only MPG with the GTE.

You will have to do the maths (... gotta love a spreadsheet :-) ) but I think you may find you are better off sticking with diesel. All of the following relates to a 2016 Mk7, the new GTE may have changed, I'm not sure. One thing that has changed is the list price is now about £3k less than mine (grrrr!) which may help with the BIK calcs.

I reckon you are going to get at best 20 miles range on EL, maybe even less if your are on the M-way at 70mph or so early in your journey. In GTE mode you will recover about 1 mile of EL range per 4-5 miles travelled on the petrol engine, but this will only charge to a maximum of 14 miles range. I reckon of your 80m, you are going to get 32-34m on EL at best. Factor in a full charge at 9kW / or 9 units at your standard tariff, the petrol engine in GTE mode usually averages 35mpg. Oh and one other consideration is the petrol tank size, which due to the batteries is 8 gallons, so you will be filing up weekly, as opposed to fortnightly or longer with the derv.

[Molsheim]

Just ordered a GTE and told current lead times are Mid-Jan / Early Feb but that could come forward. Does that sound about right?

[Big GT]

Molsheim said:

Just ordered a GTE and told current lead times are Mid-Jan / Early Feb but that could come forward. Does that sound about right?

Yep ordered our last month with a couple of options and delivery quoted mid Feb

[looksfast]

Yes it does although promises of ten weeks from now are fairly frequent too. About to order mine if I can get the right deal!

[saaby93]

Another review here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/volkswagen/volkswa...

The thing is they reckon to get 53mpg.
You can easily achieve that with a Prius without having to plug it in everynight and it's a bigger car

It's just a quota car where theyve bolted on an electric motor, without trying to make the whole system efficient
However if you can do under 22 miles per day, lease deals are cheap, you could say it'll be motoring for free

Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 23 September 13:22

[Molsheim]

Yeah I get your point. Thing is I live in central London so most of the time I'll be doing less than the real-world figure of 22 miles electric only range. Plug it in at home and at work.
Also wanted something fast weight ability to do long trips.
Nothing else in price range

[finlo]

Molsheim said:

Yeah I get your point. Thing is I live in central London so most of the time I'll be doing less than the real-world figure of 22 miles electric only range. Plug it in at home and at work.
Also wanted something fast weight ability to do long trips.
Nothing else in price range

Hyundai ioniq?

[raspy]

saaby93 said:

Another review here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/volkswagen/volkswa...

The thing is they reckon to get 53mpg.
You can easily achieve that with a Prius without having to plug it in everynight and it's a bigger car

Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 23 September 13:22

Indeed. I'm getting much more than that. I'm getting 71mpg actual per tank with my 2016 Prius.

[Big GT]

saaby93 said:

Another review here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/volkswagen/volkswa...

The thing is they reckon to get 53mpg.
You can easily achieve that with a Prius without having to plug it in everynight and it's a bigger car

It's just a quota car where theyve bolted on an electric motor, without trying to make the whole system efficient
However if you can do under 22 miles per day, lease deals are cheap, you could say it'll be motoring for free

Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 23 September 13:22

^This^

The lease deals are cheap well under £300 per month inc VAT. For a new Golf, and lets face it these MK7's although dull are the best at what they do.

For some people the GTE is a clumsy GTI and a thirstier GTD.

For others it perfect, free electric motoring then near hot hatch performance when required.

I'm for the latter

[Welshbeef]

I'm seeing more and more on these on he roads - they look just like any sporty Golf which is no bad thing (not seeen a Passat yet).

Pulling away from red lights in clearly electric mode they are brisk - even a 535d needs to be stirred to attention.

I just hope some brand will make a 7 seat equivalent PDQ. That's the perfect option electric mode would be the norm zero emissions near th schools and given its usage short stop start it would be perfect for the job.
We run a 10 year old diesel S Max as a stop gap it's great big comfy reasonably economical but if it was EV with a petrol backup that would be perfect.

Come on VW .Seat etc that Shannon Alhambra would be a massive seller with that drivetrain.

[saaby93]

they were under £200 last month

£205 on a 9+23
https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/independent...

[onemorelap]

Big GT said:

For others it perfect, free electric motoring then near hot hatch performance when required.

I'm for the latter

Absolutely this.
Pointless comparing it to a Prius.

[saaby93]

onemorelap said:

Absolutely this.
Pointless comparing it to a Prius.

Everything in this game gets compared to a Prius

Here's an ioniq plugin review
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/hyundai/ioniq...
30 miles
But puts the GTE in front

Edited by saaby93 on Sunday 24th September 00:26

[raspy]

Big GT said:

^This^

The lease deals are cheap well under £300 per month inc VAT. For a new Golf, and lets face it these MK7's although dull are the best at what they do.

For some people the GTE is a clumsy GTI and a thirstier GTD.

For others it perfect, free electric motoring then near hot hatch performance when required.

I'm for the latter

Surely, it's only free if someone else is paying for your electricity? If you pay for the electricity to charge the battery, how can it be free motoring?

[Welshbeef]

raspy said:

Surely, it's only free if someone else is paying for your electricity? If you pay for the electricity to charge the battery, how can it be free motoring?

If you've paid for at home solar panels then yes it's free - you could spread the cost of the purchase over the working life or even over how many KWH they produce but none the less once it's spent it's spent and rare do average joe depreciate costs over years to justify things buy a YV it's gone not it's £13pcm for the next 8 years

[markizok]

Hi guys - I am looking at ones of the Golf GTEs on on 2 year private lease deal, does anyone know where best to look as there are so many options when you google it - I have no idea which is reputable.....

Cheers

[Big GT]

also try VW dealers. Some will do personal leasing and are very competitive.

[mids]

It seems that VW are no longer taking orders on the Golf GTE as they can't keep up with the demand. The current lead time is about 6 months so the order books are temporarily closed (and it's been taken off their website) whilst they catch up!

[MagicalTrevor]

I received mine a week ago, took around 3 months to deliver. Interesting that there's such a long wait for them now.