New Nissan Leaf

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lost in espace

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6,136 posts

206 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Announced last night, 150 mile range. 40kWh battery, bigger one to come in time. No idea when it will be available here. Sounds like a step forward in terms of tech.

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/850449/Ni...

essayer

9,010 posts

193 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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January I think

From the pictures. It just seems like a facelift? I thought it would be an all new car.

A 40kWh battery isn't that groundbreaking, but apparently a longer range model is coming next year.

HTP99

22,443 posts

139 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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235 mile range, not 150, so real world anything up to around 180-190.

Looks interesting and certainly could be a credible alternative to the Tesla 3, when that eventually hits us.

raspy

1,459 posts

93 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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HTP99 said:
235 mile range, not 150, so real world anything up to around 180-190.

Looks interesting and certainly could be a credible alternative to the Tesla 3, when that eventually hits us.
235 is based upon the Japanese testing. 150 miles is based upon the EPA testing which is seen as much more realistic.

raspy

1,459 posts

93 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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essayer said:
January I think

From the pictures. It just seems like a facelift? I thought it would be an all new car.

A 40kWh battery isn't that groundbreaking, but apparently a longer range model is coming next year.
Yes, January. The main thing they've invested in is throwing in the ProPilot technology. You're right, it looks so similar to the old Leaf that chances are they want to get existing Leaf owners to upgrade and potential Tesla 3 buyers who can't wait to sign up.

raspy

1,459 posts

93 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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"The battery can be charged in 16 hours using 3 kW charger, or 8 hours using a high-output 6 kW hour charger."

Yawn. The single biggest problem holding back sales of EVs is battery technology. Very early days still.


928

221 posts

176 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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raspy said:
"The battery can be charged in 16 hours using 3 kW charger, or 8 hours using a high-output 6 kW hour charger."

Yawn. The single biggest problem holding back sales of EVs is battery technology. Very early days still.
"...Quick charging is also available allowing it to recharge 80 per cent capacity in 40 minutes...".

If it can manage a real world 150mile range after a few years use it might have a future in my garage.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

278 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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I've been waiting for this announcement, should hopefully depreciate used Leaf prices even more than they are now. I still think for the average person who only does short journeys (less than 40 miles each way) a used Leaf makes a very good buy, you could already pick up a used Leaf for less than £10k. The money saved over something like a Golf GTE or similar hybrid means you could spend the money saved on something fun to drive for the weekend and the long trips.

HTP99

22,443 posts

139 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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raspy said:
HTP99 said:
235 mile range, not 150, so real world anything up to around 180-190.

Looks interesting and certainly could be a credible alternative to the Tesla 3, when that eventually hits us.
235 is based upon the Japanese testing. 150 miles is based upon the EPA testing which is seen as much more realistic.
So is the Japanese testing similar to the NEDC testing?

If it is 150 miles with a 40kw battery then that is pretty poor, a ZOE (ok it is smaller) with a 40kw battery can get 200 miles.


Edited by HTP99 on Wednesday 6th September 09:34

essayer

9,010 posts

193 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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I also think it's pretty tight to only have 3.3kW charging as standard!

Apparently European models get 6.6kW as standard AND Type 2 charging



Edited by essayer on Wednesday 6th September 17:43

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

122 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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150 miles from a 40kwh seems on the low side.

my wife's leaf is doing 125 from a 30kwh- in yorkshire- up hills with every device known to man kind on.

Shame is not a bit more futuristic as some of the spy shots showed- but I think its a nice enough looking car.



tankplanker

2,479 posts

278 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Whatcar are quoting Nissan as the new Leaf doing over 230 miles in normal driving with the plus size model (due next year) doing over 300 miles: https://www.whatcar.com/news/2018-nissan-leaf-revi...

that is more like it!

The new electric motor also now produces 148bhp, an increase of 41bhp, dropping 0-60 to 8 seconds, so reasonable performance and below ~40mph it should feel a lot quicker than that.

oop north

1,592 posts

127 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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You all aren't looking at the same pictures as in autocar if you think it's just a facelift! Looks nothing like the old one! Anyway - looks like range is improving without having to spend as much as a jag iPace will cost

ncbbmw

409 posts

183 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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HTP99 said:
raspy said:
HTP99 said:
235 mile range, not 150, so real world anything up to around 180-190.

Looks interesting and certainly could be a credible alternative to the Tesla 3, when that eventually hits us.
235 is based upon the Japanese testing. 150 miles is based upon the EPA testing which is seen as much more realistic.
So is the Japanese testing similar to the NEDC testing?

If it is 150 miles with a 40kw battery then that is pretty poor, a ZOE (ok it is smaller) with a 40kw battery can get 200 miles.


Edited by HTP99 on Wednesday 6th September 09:34
Nissan's offical figures on the NEDC test is 235 Miles however if the test is anything like the Euro std for testing ICE cars they should be taken with an element of laughter.

I'd be happy with 150 which is double my 75 mile daily comute done in a 2014 24kw Leaf for the last 30 months.

http://nissaninsider.co.uk/revealed-the-new-nissan...




anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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raspy said:
"The battery can be charged in 16 hours using 3 kW charger, or 8 hours using a high-output 6 kW hour charger."

Yawn. The single biggest problem holding back sales of EVs is battery technology. Very early days still.
if you're doing 200 miles a day, day in, day out, then you've got bigger issues than having to wait for a charge to complete.......

ajprice

27,316 posts

195 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Max_Torque said:
if you're doing 200 miles a day, day in, day out, then you've got bigger issues than having to wait for a charge to complete.......
Yep. There's a joke that Jimmy Carr does that sums it up...

I saw a charity appeal in the Guardian the other day, and it read "Little Zuki has to walk 13 miles a day just to fetch water". And I couldn't help thinking, she should move.

Otispunkmeyer

12,557 posts

154 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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essayer said:
January I think

From the pictures. It just seems like a facelift? I thought it would be an all new car.

A 40kWh battery isn't that groundbreaking, but apparently a longer range model is coming next year.
It's more than a face lift, but I think they've stopped short of going wholesale on a new body. The old leaf body architecture is still there. You can see it in the pillars and in that upright van like driving position.

Still it does look better. More conventional. And the interior looks like a step up too. I think they've done a good job.

page3

4,912 posts

250 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Looks very, very ordinary. Interior is a step down from the previous version- removal of digital speedo and addition of zillions of buttons. What a shame.

Heres Johnny

7,175 posts

123 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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raspy said:
"The battery can be charged in 16 hours using 3 kW charger, or 8 hours using a high-output 6 kW hour charger."

Yawn. The single biggest problem holding back sales of EVs is battery technology. Very early days still.
You do know you don't have to stand in a pool of diesel there holding the cable in the car, you can go inside your house and watch tv?

RumbleOfThunder

3,546 posts

202 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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ajprice said:
Max_Torque said:
if you're doing 200 miles a day, day in, day out, then you've got bigger issues than having to wait for a charge to complete.......
Yep. There's a joke that Jimmy Carr does that sums it up...

I saw a charity appeal in the Guardian the other day, and it read "Little Zuki has to walk 13 miles a day just to fetch water". And I couldn't help thinking, she should move.
Which is a Jim Davidson joke! I wonder who he got it from.