New Nissan Leaf

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EddieSteadyGo

11,863 posts

203 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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cbehagg242 said:
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More information required! Would like to know how to do this.
Full details here. I've just set this up as well - very convenient.

https://speakev.com/threads/google-home-ok-google-...

Edited to add - I sent a DM to the author of the code and he kindly sent me the url, so I didn't have to try and setup an AWS account.

Edited by EddieSteadyGo on Tuesday 20th February 14:20

grantone

640 posts

173 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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I'm pretty tempted by the new Leaf, we're a one car household though and I'm a little nervous about electric only.

Drive Electric advertise N-Connecta spec on personal contract hire at ~£3.6k pa for 8k miles pa, (£274 inc. VAT @ 6/47).
- What do people reckon the chances are of cheaper leases being available later in the year? Will the bigger battery version be the trigger to push them down?

As our only car in the household we'd sometimes be reliant on rapid or destination charging, reading the SpeakEV forums confuses me a little as there's threads on unplugging others, broken chargers, racing to services if you spot another EV, etc...
- What's the current state of motorway rapid charging? Enough capacity and reliability for the handful of long work and family journeys we make each year?
- What's the current etiquette for destination charging? I drove over to a work office yesterday 85 miles away and the 2 chargers in the car park were both in use, hundreds of people on the site and not my home office, so no idea who the owners are. Do people leave their phone numbers on the dash, is there some other way to share the limited resource, or is it just first come first served?

Frimley111R

15,614 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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grantone said:
I'm pretty tempted by the new Leaf, we're a one car household though and I'm a little nervous about electric only.

Drive Electric advertise N-Connecta spec on personal contract hire at ~£3.6k pa for 8k miles pa, (£274 inc. VAT @ 6/47).
- What do people reckon the chances are of cheaper leases being available later in the year? Will the bigger battery version be the trigger to push them down?
Possibly but its all down to demand. They might be cheaper but how much and is it worth waiting? What if you wait and they don't go down? As with any car a newer and better version will slightly push down residuals

robbocop33

1,184 posts

107 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Max_Torque said:
andy43 said:
I have just test driven the new Leaf.

Lift off and the car brakes (illuminating the brake lights on regen – old Leaf never did this) and you can then feather the throttle to pull up exactly where you want to. Lift off suddenly and it’ll ‘brake’ harder but not to the point of emergency braking.
It’ll hold the car perfectly on a slope, therefore e pedal must use the braking system to operate, at rest at least. I’d guess it also uses the brakes on full-lift-off too.
i3 uses eMachine to hold vehicle on slope. It'll allow a small amount of creep (<0.5mph) in the direction you have selected on the gear selector, but none in the opposite direction ie in FWD it won't roll backwards, but on a downhill slope will very very slowly creep forwards. Brakes not used unless slope is V steep ime. I wish it had true zero speed hold tbh, that would make it even easier to drive in traffic on hills. They could use the Acc. pedal is torque control mode above say 5mph, then blend into speed control mode below that speed, including true zero speed hold in either direction in either gear.
Got an interesting little tale about this single pedal technology in the Leaf. Old doctor/engineer/inventor I knew at the latter end of his life was 'way' ahead of Nissan with this single pedal thought.
He passed away at the age of 81 a few years ago, anyone like to hazard a guess at what age he was when he converted his father's car to a single pedal system using simply hydraulics,18!!!
Now considering back in the late 40,s,early 50,s safety wasn't a big consideration it just shows you how much ahead of his time he was! Just to cut out that reaction time going from one pedal over to the other.
He approached Lucas several times about backing his system and developing it and they just weren't interested??
Incidentally if you use a golf trolley, stare in awe at wind turbines and if you knew someone who worked down the pits and was surrounded by props stripped of bark by machines he invented, you've got a lot to thank him for too! :-)
He was a great man and I just wished I had known him a little longer.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

81 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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grantone said:
I'm pretty tempted by the new Leaf, we're a one car household though and I'm a little nervous about electric only.

As our only car in the household we'd sometimes be reliant on rapid or destination charging, reading the SpeakEV forums confuses me a little as there's threads on unplugging others, broken chargers, racing to services if you spot another EV, etc...
- What's the current state of motorway rapid charging? Enough capacity and reliability for the handful of long work and family journeys we make each year?
- What's the current etiquette for destination charging? I drove over to a work office yesterday 85 miles away and the 2 chargers in the car park were both in use, hundreds of people on the site and not my home office, so no idea who the owners are. Do people leave their phone numbers on the dash, is there some other way to share the limited resource, or is it just first come first served?
I can answer this. You simply cannot, in any way, shape or form rely on any kind of charging, anywhere. Others will disagree but I think you should only ever consider doing journeys that are entirely within the round trip range of your car.

This is what I'd already realised/decided when I got my Leaf, and I knew I'd only ever be doing short journeys in it. (Round trips of up to 60 miles) For that it is just brilliant. That's not to say I didn't charge up at service stations when it was free, you'd have been mad not to, but I never HAD to charge up.

sawman

4,917 posts

230 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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SCEtoAUX said:
I can answer this. You simply cannot, in any way, shape or form rely on any kind of charging, anywhere. Others will disagree but I think you should only ever consider doing journeys that are entirely within the round trip range of your car.

This is what I'd already realised/decided when I got my Leaf, and I knew I'd only ever be doing short journeys in it. (Round trips of up to 60 miles) For that it is just brilliant. That's not to say I didn't charge up at service stations when it was free, you'd have been mad not to, but I never HAD to charge up.
I think i came to that conclusion today, last week i was reading about the new leaf and it sounded like it might work for me as my daily round trip is 70- 80 miles, but then i realised that most weeks there will be something that would involve a mid trip charge (this week newcastle to edinburgh, next week to nottigham, then solihull and Hull after that and thats just this month) i suppose i could take the wifes car for these jaunts. But looking at some of the youtube clips on lone charging on the go looks like a pain.


Edited by sawman on Sunday 25th February 18:51

modeller

444 posts

166 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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sawman said:
I think i came to that conclusion today, last week i was reading about the new leaf and it sounded like it might work for me as my daily round trip is 70- 80 miles, but then i realised that most weeks there will be something that would involve a mid trip charge (this week newcastle to edinburgh, next week to nottigham, then solihull and Hull after that and thats just this month) i suppose i could take the wifes car for these jaunts. But looking at some of the youtube clips on lone charging on the go looks like a pain.
Edited by sawman on Sunday 25th February 18:51
Completely agree. i3 REX or Tesla are the only EV's that I'd attempt that type of journey in (currently for sale!)



This what was blocking me the other day. Golf GTE on a 50kW rapid. Fortunately I could just engage the REX, a leaf would have been stuck.


Edited by modeller on Sunday 25th February 22:01

ncbbmw

409 posts

184 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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For anyone looking to buy a new Leaf be aware that they are going up by approx 3% on the 1st April.

Given that March 31st is a Saturday and also Easter weekend if you want one get it ordered and on the Nissan system before Good Friday or you'll pay the higher price.

I'm told the waiting list is growing too with May onwards delivery being quoted.




EddieSteadyGo

11,863 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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ncbbmw said:
For anyone looking to buy a new Leaf be aware that they are going up by approx 3% on the 1st April.

Given that March 31st is a Saturday and also Easter weekend if you want one get it ordered and on the Nissan system before Good Friday or you'll pay the higher price.

I'm told the waiting list is growing too with May onwards delivery being quoted.
Over on Speakev someone has just ordered a new Tekna - they have been quoted August delivery, so they does seem to be a bit of a waiting list building.

However, I can only see the cost of ownership price going down if you are prepared to hold out.

The latest deal on Speakev is a Tekna with metallic paint for a 4 yr PCH with 10,000 miles per year with payments of £1702 deposit and then 47 x £283.21.

Still quite a lot of money for a Leaf, but cheaper than they were at the start of the year, despite the waiting list increase.