New Nissan Leaf

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LordFlathead

9,641 posts

258 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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angels95 said:
LordFlathead said:
I am a deposit holder for the new Leaf

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So I cancelled my order and bought this Nissan 370Z Nismo instead.. it was cheaper
Good man! Fantastic choice of car!
Thanks smile Here it is coming back from Scotland what a fun drive home.


stevie777777

127 posts

175 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Agree the leaf like all EV's far too expensive. so.....I back in Dec 2016 I bought a 2 year old Leaf (top spec Tecna model) from a Nissan dealer. 15k miles, was offered interest free credit (50% deposit), was given 3 free services....paid £10k :-)
was at local dealer last month for the service...was offered 9K for it (now done 24k miles), but wife loves it so it stays for another year - makes sense at that price point...forget £20K !
I have a Kia diesel lease for long family/business trips.....and a C63 for proper driving.

rykard

447 posts

181 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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saw the new leaf ad last night. Can anyone explain how the one pedal does it all works? Lift and brake??

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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rykard said:
saw the new leaf ad last night. Can anyone explain how the one pedal does it all works? Lift and brake??
Press to accelerate, lift off to regen brake.

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Zoon said:
rykard said:
saw the new leaf ad last night. Can anyone explain how the one pedal does it all works? Lift and brake??
Press to accelerate, lift off to regen brake.
Does lift off brake aswell?

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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HTP99 said:
Does lift off brake aswell?
Yes gradually, so you still need to use the proper brake pedal in an emergency.

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Zoon said:
HTP99 said:
Does lift off brake aswell?
Yes gradually, so you still need to use the proper brake pedal in an emergency.
I understood that it only had 1 pedal?

essayer

9,065 posts

194 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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HTP99 said:
I understood that it only had 1 pedal?
It has both.


Edited by essayer on Thursday 8th February 14:02

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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HTP99 said:
I understood that it only had 1 pedal?
No still two, but you can drive with just one if you wish, if not you can turn the system off with a switch on the dash.

Frimley111R

15,661 posts

234 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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There's vids on YT showing it working. Seems pretty clever but I wonder how the brakes will fare not being used for so long potentially.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Frimley111R said:
There's vids on YT showing it working. Seems pretty clever but I wonder how the brakes will fare not being used for so long potentially.
You still have to use the brake pedal to bring the car to a complete stop, at junctions, lights etc. Same as the old Leaf (one of which I own) in B mode, but I think the new one gives more regen. So brakes will get used on every journey, and won't suffer/seize.

I'd be interested to know if the new Leaf activates the brake lights when it's regen braking. Mine doesn't, and it catches out people behind who don't expect it to decelerate so quickly. I keep an eye on the mirror and adjust my use of the regen braking if someone is tailgating, or I can see they aren't paying full attention, using phones etc.

raspy

1,469 posts

94 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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ElectricSoup said:
You still have to use the brake pedal to bring the car to a complete stop, at junctions, lights etc. Same as the old Leaf (one of which I own) in B mode, but I think the new one gives more regen. So brakes will get used on every journey, and won't suffer/seize.

I'd be interested to know if the new Leaf activates the brake lights when it's regen braking. Mine doesn't, and it catches out people behind who don't expect it to decelerate so quickly. I keep an eye on the mirror and adjust my use of the regen braking if someone is tailgating, or I can see they aren't paying full attention, using phones etc.
I test drove the new Leaf the other day. When you put e-pedal switch on and you lift off gas pedal, the brake lights come on. During my test, I didn't touch the brake pedal when in e-pedal mode. Even from 50mph, when judged well, I brought the car to a complete stop at a light, just by lifting off the gas pedal. What was odd was the feeling of being held on the hill at the light, with no feet on the pedals and the handbrake off. Once you get used to it, I suspect you would rarely touch the brake pedal, unless you had to a sudden stop because someone cut into your lane etc.

I think e-pedal would be great in stop start traffic, rather than having it on all the time, so it's good they made it switchable. I didn't like it when joining and driving on motorway.

However, e-pedal is not the same as B mode. They are different features.

A shame the seat base is at a weird angle. I couldn't get comfortable and got knee pain after 5 minutes. I tested a Smart ForTwo EV today and that was way more comfortable as a driving position than the Leaf (and felt roomier for me as a driver!)

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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The ZOE has quite strong regenerative breaking too and if driven smoothly and with enough anticipation then you can get away without using too much of the brake pedal.

I was genuinely lead to believe that the the new Leaf had this fantastic new 1 pedal system, with literally only 1 pedal; clearly just marketing hyperbole.

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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HTP99 said:
The ZOE has quite strong regenerative breaking too and if driven smoothly and with enough anticipation then you can get away without using too much of the brake pedal.

I was genuinely lead to believe that the the new Leaf had this fantastic new 1 pedal system, with literally only 1 pedal; clearly just marketing hyperbole.
Not really, as someone mentioned, it can be driven with one pedal if you so wished.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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raspy said:
ElectricSoup said:
You still have to use the brake pedal to bring the car to a complete stop, at junctions, lights etc. Same as the old Leaf (one of which I own) in B mode, but I think the new one gives more regen. So brakes will get used on every journey, and won't suffer/seize.

I'd be interested to know if the new Leaf activates the brake lights when it's regen braking. Mine doesn't, and it catches out people behind who don't expect it to decelerate so quickly. I keep an eye on the mirror and adjust my use of the regen braking if someone is tailgating, or I can see they aren't paying full attention, using phones etc.
I test drove the new Leaf the other day. When you put e-pedal switch on and you lift off gas pedal, the brake lights come on. During my test, I didn't touch the brake pedal when in e-pedal mode. Even from 50mph, when judged well, I brought the car to a complete stop at a light, just by lifting off the gas pedal. What was odd was the feeling of being held on the hill at the light, with no feet on the pedals and the handbrake off. Once you get used to it, I suspect you would rarely touch the brake pedal, unless you had to a sudden stop because someone cut into your lane etc.

I think e-pedal would be great in stop start traffic, rather than having it on all the time, so it's good they made it switchable. I didn't like it when joining and driving on motorway.

However, e-pedal is not the same as B mode. They are different features.

A shame the seat base is at a weird angle. I couldn't get comfortable and got knee pain after 5 minutes. I tested a Smart ForTwo EV today and that was way more comfortable as a driving position than the Leaf (and felt roomier for me as a driver!)
Thanks, interesting. Actually, it prompts a further question. Is there D mode, B mode and e-pedal mode on the new Leaf, or just D and e-pedal to choose between?

raspy

1,469 posts

94 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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ElectricSoup said:
Thanks, interesting. Actually, it prompts a further question. Is there D mode, B mode and e-pedal mode on the new Leaf, or just D and e-pedal to choose between?
You have D and B on the transmission, and the switch for the e-pedal too. I did try putting it in B mode and on e-pedal at the same time, but was too much regen for my liking.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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raspy said:
ElectricSoup said:
Thanks, interesting. Actually, it prompts a further question. Is there D mode, B mode and e-pedal mode on the new Leaf, or just D and e-pedal to choose between?
You have D and B on the transmission, and the switch for the e-pedal too. I did try putting it in B mode and on e-pedal at the same time, but was too much regen for my liking.
Cheers, that's a good range of mode options. I'm hoping to get a second hand Leaf 2 in Sep 2020 when my current PCP runs out. Sounds like a great car.

Greg_D

6,542 posts

246 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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essayer said:
Rumoured PCP pricing is £3k down, £379/month on a 3yr deal for the 2.ZERO launch model
6000 miles/yr, FV £11k

£26490 on the road

Seems excessive
too right, my i3 Rex was £1500 down and £260+vat/month - that's for a £45k car.

they must have zero faith in residuals... the sums point to it being worth about £10k after 3 years.

Spoon Burner

8,852 posts

187 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Greg_D said:
essayer said:
Rumoured PCP pricing is £3k down, £379/month on a 3yr deal for the 2.ZERO launch model
6000 miles/yr, FV £11k

£26490 on the road

Seems excessive
too right, my i3 Rex was £1500 down and £260+vat/month - that's for a £45k car.

they must have zero faith in residuals... the sums point to it being worth about £10k after 3 years.
I would love one but I'm not paying that. I'll wait 18 months or so and buy a used one if I can. I think it looks lovely.

granada203028

1,483 posts

197 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Yes my Leaf had to have new front disks at 50K miles due to corrosion. Not fit for purpose really other than to drum up service business.