Tesla Roll-Out

[Ares]

ILoveMondeo said:

I stopped somewhere on the M6 a few weeks ago, there was a good 10 maybe more Tesla bays. All full, and not one of the cars was a Tesla.

Must be wonderful to spunk 100k on a shiny new Tesla and not be able to access a charger as some tool is parked up in the Tesla bay because it's a bit closer to the McDonalds.

I'd love a Tesla, and have been thinking about the practicalities of stopping on longer trips to charge

The prospect of an argument with some balloon head who wont shift his car so I can get on a fast charger doesn't encourage me!

Most Tesla bays are separate, and as with the photo, there are loads of bays just as near as the Tesla ones

[Disco Infiltrator]

Superhoop said:

Probably not, but Tesla are clearly thinking about their customers and making sure their supercharging network can cope with capacity, other manufacturers should be doing the same..

What customers? There are just over 2000 Model S on UK roads.


There's one at Oxford Services on the M40. It would appear to be nothing more than a pop-up car showroom.

[Spunagain]

Odd, as How many left - model S shows well over 5000 model S's.
How many left - model X shows over 500 model X's.
And that can be up to 6 months out of date...

Edited by Spunagain on Tuesday 19th September 13:00

[NDNDNDND]

lost in espace said:

My mate with a new X is panicing as he is going to Looe in a couple of weeks. No way of charging from a 3 pin socket was obvious, I suggested getting a type 1 to 2 converter and using my granny lead. Turns out when he called the Tesla salesman they had forgotten to put the UMC in the car which should allow him to charge. Not many superchargers in Cornwall. Rapid adaptor is 450 quid! Car just came with a type 2 cable.

Didn't you get the memo?

EV's are the second coming, and you're not allowed to point out they have the potential to be a complete pain in the arse.

[NDNDNDND]

Ares said:

As inspring as all service stations.

There was a brand new Starbucks 3 feet to my right though. Ironically, the time taken to park up, get family out of the car, order, eat/drink and go to the toilet was more than the 20mins a Tesla would need to supercharge to 50% charge.

According to leccy.net a P100D will only supercharge to 50% in 20 minutes if it starts off from a charge of 25%. That's an increase in range of only 80 miles. To see a 50% increase in range from 25%, you'd have to supercharge for just over 50 minutes.

I hope you find the couches in Starbucks comfy.

[anonymous-user]

lost in espace said:

essayer said:

Is there a way to plug another EV to those points? Some sort of Type-2 Tesla emulator box?

Nope, the car verifies itself to the charge post/Tesla HQ.

Like everything, it's been hacked, so yes, you can buy an "adapter" that allows cars with CCS/CaDeMO charging infrastructure to use a Supercharger.......

[Disco Infiltrator]

Spunagain said:

Odd, as How many left - model S shows well over 5000 model S's.
How many left - model X shows over 500 model X's.
And that can be up to 6 months out of date...

Edited by Spunagain on Tuesday 19th September 13:00

It's a figure I found on another site. I certainly don't see many.

[Ares]

NDNDNDND said:

Ares said:

As inspring as all service stations.

There was a brand new Starbucks 3 feet to my right though. Ironically, the time taken to park up, get family out of the car, order, eat/drink and go to the toilet was more than the 20mins a Tesla would need to supercharge to 50% charge.

According to leccy.net a P100D will only supercharge to 50% in 20 minutes if it starts off from a charge of 25%. That's an increase in range of only 80 miles. To see a 50% increase in range from 25%, you'd have to supercharge for just over 50 minutes.

I hope you find the couches in Starbucks comfy.

Says it needs 37 mins for a 50% charge:

[Ares]

Disco Infiltrator said:

Spunagain said:

Odd, as How many left - model S shows well over 5000 model S's.
How many left - model X shows over 500 model X's.
And that can be up to 6 months out of date...

Edited by Spunagain on Tuesday 19th September 13:00

It's a figure I found on another site. I certainly don't see many.

Loads round here, more than their fair share of £100k cars represented.

Still nothing like as many as in the US though.

[anonymous-user]

Ares said:

Disco Infiltrator said:

Spunagain said:

Odd, as How many left - model S shows well over 5000 model S's.
How many left - model X shows over 500 model X's.
And that can be up to 6 months out of date...

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 19th September 13:00

It's a figure I found on another site. I certainly don't see many.

Loads round here, more than their fair share of £100k cars represented.

Still nothing like as many as in the US though.

What do they cost in the US?

[gangzoom]

ILoveMondeo said:

I stopped somewhere on the M6 a few weeks ago, there was a good 10 maybe more Tesla bays. All full, and not one of the cars was a Tesla.

Must be wonderful to spunk 100k on a shiny new Tesla and not be able to access a charger as some tool is parked up in the Tesla bay because it's a bit closer to the McDonalds.

I'd love a Tesla, and have been thinking about the practicalities of stopping on longer trips to charge

The prospect of an argument with some balloon head who wont shift his car so I can get on a fast charger doesn't encourage me!

Was this at Hoopwood services? They have 16 chargers, and a fixed penalty for non Tesla parked in the bays. The owner of Welcome Break has a Tesla has said he will get Tesla Superchargers installed in every Welcome Break service station.

I'm not the heaviest supercharger user but I've seen hardly any Tesla bays been ICEed.

Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 20th September 07:35

[gangzoom]

Ares said:

Loads round here, more than their fair share of £100k cars represented.

Still nothing like as many as in the US though.

Not entirely sure why people think all Teslas cost £100k+. Ours cost barely more than a Q7 3.0 TDI with a few options. UK starting price is £60k and buys you 0-60 time of 4.2 seconds. The £100k+ versions is the same car but with bigger battery/quicker 0-60 time.

Used Tesla approved cars are now coming in under £40k.

[RichB]

Do you have to enter card details at these chargers or is the electricity free, paid for by Tesla?

[Modiman46]

Just plug in, the Car "confirms" with Tesla HQ that's it -- simple pre-paid for life of car (FREE).
If no confirmation No supply. now extra charges apply if you "Overstay" payable at next service visit.
Although the plug may fit there is NO way for supply to come ON with out VIN Number verification with HQ.
Model 3 will work but will need payment details verified with HQ then switched ON.

Edited by Modiman46 on Tuesday 19th September 23:44

Edited by Modiman46 on Tuesday 19th September 23:46

[Heres Johnny]

RichB said:

Do you have to enter card details at these chargers or is the electricity free, paid for by Tesla?

No card on a supercharger. They’re free for most but if you bought one recently without a referral code you’d only get a limited amount before paying. It then gets billed to an account.

[Disco Infiltrator]

Ares said:

Disco Infiltrator said:

Spunagain said:

Odd, as How many left - model S shows well over 5000 model S's.
How many left - model X shows over 500 model X's.
And that can be up to 6 months out of date...

Edited by Spunagain on Tuesday 19th September 13:00

It's a figure I found on another site. I certainly don't see many.

Loads round here, more than their fair share of £100k cars represented.

Still nothing like as many as in the US though.

The only ones I see are minicabs or chauffeur cars. Less than one a month for sure. Worldwide sales of around 150000 in 6 years would suggest they aren't particularly common anywhere.

The Yank's best selling car, the Toyota Camry, sold more than 230000 cars in 2016 alone.

And the Model S starts at £60k or £70k USD.

Edited by Disco Infiltrator on Wednesday 20th September 08:50

[Ares]

REALIST123 said:

Ares said:

Disco Infiltrator said:

Spunagain said:

Odd, as How many left - model S shows well over 5000 model S's.
How many left - model X shows over 500 model X's.
And that can be up to 6 months out of date...

Edited by Spunagain on Tuesday 19th September 13:00

It's a figure I found on another site. I certainly don't see many.

Loads round here, more than their fair share of £100k cars represented.

Still nothing like as many as in the US though.

What do they cost in the US?

Largely the same. The supply is just greater.

It's the supply that is hindering there being more Teslas on UK roads more than anything.

[Ares]

Disco Infiltrator said:

The only ones I see are minicabs or chauffeur cars. Less than one a month for sure. Worldwide sales of around 150000 in 6 years would suggest they aren't particularly common anywhere.

The Yank's best selling car, the Toyota Camry, sold more than 230000 cars in 2016 alone.

And the Model S starts at £60k or £70k USD.

Edited by Disco Infiltrator on Wednesday 20th September 08:50

Given Tesla is still ramping up production and numbers sold are growing exponentially, I'd say 150,000 is pretty good.

How many BMW 7-series or Audi A8s were sold?

Edited by Ares on Wednesday 20th September 10:36

[MrDan]

Iv been trying not to bite but here it goes...

I drive a Model S 90d ... Iv had it 14 months and done 15,000 miles of happy trouble free motoring. In that time its cost me £240 in "Fuel" (Separate meter for OLEV grant on home charger) £600 in insurance and £0 duty.

Dont get me wrong the car is bloody expensive, but putting through a limited co and keeping it for a while + a bit of man maths makes much more sense.

In all my miles so far I have had to wait to charge once, and that was at Leeds where there are only two chargers. This is now being addressed.

Most of the big supercharger setups tend to be well away from the door to stop ICEing.

I considered an RS6 and GTR before the S, but as the S has no value to thieves it swung me round to the tesla. And I dont regret it.

Yep the build quality isn`t quite 7 Series or S Class, but it will get there. oh and the Model X is bloody ugly.

[gangzoom]

Disco Infiltrator said:

The Yank's best selling car, the Toyota Camry, sold more than 230000 cars in 2016 alone.

The Camry woudlnt sell those numbers if it cost $75k USD.

The proof is how many of the Model 3 reservation holders complete on the purchase.

If Tesla can really deliver on those orders they will quickly gain a large market share. Bare in mind Tesla only have 3 cars in their entire range and the very first Model S didnt roll of the production line till 2012/13 its quite an achievement in such a short of period of time.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/02/tesla-is-getti...