Tesla and Uber Unlikely to Survive...

[Dave Hedgehog]

JPJPJP said:

Cybertruck in the wild

Is Elon driving, or autopilot

watch to the end

https://twitter.com/Guruleaks1/status/120375457986...

AP

[Some Gump]

Bizarrely in the current world that which should be a pr gaffe is probably a pr win.

The scale of that thing is daft though, imagine how much wilmslow pavement it's going to take up on the school run?

[NerveAgent]

It’s going to be mostly hanging around schools? Maybe it should be known as the PedoTruck...

[DonkeyApple]

NerveAgent said:

It’s going to be mostly hanging around schools? Maybe it should be known as the PedoTruck...

Kids love Tesla’s. They’d probably work better than puppies or sweeties!!!

[Nickgnome]

I recently returned from visiting my Daughter and family in the USA near Iowa city. My time was spent there and in Chicago. I used to live and work in the states quite a few years ago.

Trucks still seem to be very popular. Generally much bigger than anything available in the UK. My Daughter’s Buick people carrier averages 13mpg. The build quality seems little better than It was in the lat 90s with large and varying panel gaps.

On the plus side I was amazed at the number of Teslas I saw during the time I was there. The new 3 seems very popular, but the larger ones are reasonably abundant too.

None of this is evidenced statistics of course but Tesla has certainly gained traction in the area I was in.

[anonymous-user]

Any forecasts for annual deliveries over next 3 years?

[RumbleOfThunder]

Sambucket said:

Any forecasts for annual deliveries over next 3 years?

Don't worry it will never make it to market. Musk just needs to drum up some interest for further investment.

[ZesPak]

RumbleOfThunder said:

Don't worry it will never make it to market. Musk just needs to drum up some interest for further investment.

?
I could understand this comment from other manufacturers with a history of concept cars that went nowhere, but Tesla?
Have they ever shown a car that didn't get released nearly as-is?

[anonymous-user]

I meant total deliveries, for all vehicles?

eg

2020 450k
2021 600k
2022 800k

[coetzeeh]

Germany now no 1 market for EV sales in Europe. Tesla has work to do here..

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/germany-pas...

[jamoor]

coetzeeh said:

Germany now no 1 market for EV sales in Europe. Tesla has work to do here..

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/germany-pas...

Are there sales figures to show who sold what?

[Kolbenkopp]

jamoor said:

Are there sales figures to show who sold what?

Bit difficult to piece together, but most source data is public [1]. No time for that right now so below the data for January to September from a local car mag:

Modellreihe
VW E-GOLF # 4.486
Smart FORTWO Electric # 3.090
Renault ZOE # 7.872
BMW I3 # 7.089
Tesla MODEL 3 # 7.678

Tesla sales seem to be see-sawing, October and November down to under 300 cars again each.

[1] https://www.kba.de/SharedDocs/Publikationen/DE/Sta...

[Kolbenkopp]

Kolbenkopp said:

Bit difficult to piece together, but most source data is public [1]. No time for that right now so below the data for January to September from a local car mag:

Modellreihe
VW E-GOLF # 4.486
Smart FORTWO Electric # 3.090
Renault ZOE # 7.872
BMW I3 # 7.089
Tesla MODEL 3 # 7.678

Tesla sales seem to be see-sawing, October and November down to under 300 cars again each.

Edit: industry wise, 2019 looks like the best year since 2009. EVs at 1.6% market share so lots of room for growth.

[1] https://www.kba.de/SharedDocs/Publikationen/DE/Sta...

[hyphen]

coetzeeh said:

Germany now no 1 market for EV sales in Europe. Tesla has work to do here..

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/germany-pas...

article said:

German automakers will triple their electric car offerings to 150 models by 2023 and invest 50 billion euros by 2024, he said.

Tesla: Look at us go, we may make some money soon.
Everyone else: We haven't even joined in yet.

[jjwilde]

hyphen said:

Tesla: Look at us go, we may make some money soon.
Everyone else: We haven't even joined in yet.

Well you've been saying that but so far the EVs from the big players have had awful sales figures.

[hyphen]

jjwilde said:

Well you've been saying that but so far the EVs from the big players have had awful sales figures.

November car sales in Norway, limited to BEV

2) Nissan Leaf
3) Audi E-tron
9) BMW i3
17) Hundai Kona
19) Jag I-Pace
30) Opel Ampere-e

And then add in the hybrids too!

Tesla model 3 came behind Audi E-tron (which is much more expensive) at no 4. X was at 33 and Model S was position 66.

And the big players have just done some stretching with the subs, they haven't even warmed up the goalkeeper yet, never mind fielding a full team.


https://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2019/12/norway-nov...

[anonymous-user]

Your prediction please hypen for 2020 and 2021 Tesla total deliveries?

Let’s get something on record.

[hyphen]

Sambucket said:

Your prediction please hypen for 2020 and 2021 Tesla total deliveries?

Let’s get something on record.

Y should do very well, 3 demand may slump due to Y and any other competition. X and S are just 'Faberge Eggs'.

It all boils down to the political climate and how much meddling governments around the world do, in particular with regards to the charging infrastructure.

For example in the UK, if LibDems won or Greens were in a colaition and announced 'free charger installation for every home and lamp post'.

Whats your opinion Sam?

[anonymous-user]

I've already given my numbers up thread.

Stop dodgin Lets have your cold hard figures! Might as well do 2019 as well.

2019 -
2020 -
2021 -
2022 -

[Lt. Coulomb]

2019 - 201900
2020 - 202000
2021 - 202100
2022 - 202200