Another fatal Tesla crash

[rscott]

hot metal said:

DJP31 said:

ABS makes drivers think theirs cars won’t crash, maybe you think that should be banned too? It all comes down to the central point, and that is the human element. Used properly, which most of the time they are, they assist the driver.

Sorry, no ABS here

You've disabled it on your Golf & Galaxy?

[EazyDuz]

I think most driver aids are fine up until the point when they sell a car telling you it can brake and steer for you. Technology hasnt progressed enough for that to be a reliable feature but since it is a feature now, people will use it, hence the accidents occurring.

The customers are the beta testers really, and they should be aware of that and not think up dumb 'hacks' like that one video on Youtube where the guy jammed an orange in the steering wheel to 'trick' the car into thinking the driver has his hands on the wheel at all times. Darwinism at its best.

[Blaster72]

RumbleOfThunder said:

Probably scoffs at the idea of power steering and servo assisted brakes too.

Probably changes gear with the lever on the outside of the car and adjusts his timing on the move with a knob on the steering wheel as well

[hot metal]

You lot should be on stage.

Golf ,Galaxy, ?? oh yes ,ancient history those.

I`m not against driver aids, ABS is good, but not essential, I like cruise control on the motorway but otherwise I like to do it all thanks, yes that includes changing gear, unless I loose a leg then I might think otherwise.

Think we are missing the point a little, sadly there are a lot of idiots out there, even idiots in Teslas, I `m not comfortable with having these people on the road in cars they think they know how to use or think they know what it can do.

Edited by hot metal on Saturday 21st April 20:18

[EazyDuz]

hot metal said:

You lot should be on stage.

Golf ,Galaxy, ?? oh yes ,ancient history those.

I`m not against driver aids, ABS is good, but not essential, I like cruise control on the motorway but otherwise I like to do it all thanks, yes that includes changing gear, unless I loose a leg then I might think otherwise.

Think we are missing the point a little, sadly there are a lot of idiots out there, even idiots in Teslas, I `m not comfortable with having these people on the road in cars they think they know how to use or think they know what it can do.

Edited by hot metal on Saturday 21st April 20:18

Loosing a leg shouldn't be too much of a problem either, just get a spanner and tighten it back up.

[saaby93]

Fined and banned for driving a tesla from the passenger seat

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...

Anyone know what demographic buys a Tesla

[DapperDanMan]

saaby93 said:

Fined and banned for driving a tesla from the passenger seat

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...

Anyone know what demographic buys a Tesla

Is there a demographic labelled prat? That would be how I classify this idiot.

There are Teslas I see and they all seem to have people in the drivers seat so quite where he thinks he was unlucky to be caught is beyond me.

[saaby93]

Interesting article here on the way a Tesla ( and probably others) cant pick up something stationary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44439523

That type of collision seems quite common on motorways but maybe other places too where there is a parked car and the car you're following swerves around it.

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

Interesting article here on the way a Tesla ( and probably others) cant pick up something stationary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44439523

That type of collision seems quite common on motorways but maybe other places too where there is a parked car and the car you're following swerves around it.

Don’t think that’s news in itself but it’s interesting to see the ABI stating their view.

They clearly want to see a more controlled development and less hype. It seems full autonomy or even something close is a while away yet.

[saaby93]

REALIST123 said:

saaby93 said:

Interesting article here on the way a Tesla ( and probably others) cant pick up something stationary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44439523

That type of collision seems quite common on motorways but maybe other places too where there is a parked car and the car you're following swerves around it.

Don’t think that’s news in itself but it’s interesting to see the ABI stating their view.

They clearly want to see a more controlled development and less hype. It seems full autonomy or even something close is a while away yet.

No it's not new but useful they've brought to the surface about not being able to detect something stationary
It was discussed by a few other posters earlier. Just about everything else in the world is stationary so they have to discount stationary things.

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

REALIST123 said:

saaby93 said:

Interesting article here on the way a Tesla ( and probably others) cant pick up something stationary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44439523

That type of collision seems quite common on motorways but maybe other places too where there is a parked car and the car you're following swerves around it.

Don’t think that’s news in itself but it’s interesting to see the ABI stating their view.

They clearly want to see a more controlled development and less hype. It seems full autonomy or even something close is a while away yet.

No it's not new but useful they've brought to the surface about not being able to detect something stationary
It was discussed by a few other posters earlier. Just about everything else in the world is stationary so they have to discount stationary things.

I agree with you, it’s useful that an influential body expresses a note of caution.

The point about stationary things is interesting. Many cars have Autonomous Emergency Braking these days which should prevent exactly that sort of incident. I have it on my XF and have wondered if it would actually work. A difficult thing to test!

Unless you meant stationery as the ‘car’ the Tesla crashed into seemed to be made of paper? ( just joking!)

[saaby93]

REALIST123 said:

Unless you meant stationery as the ‘car’ the Tesla crashed into seemed to be made of paper? ( just joking!)

My fingers kept typing that too- so there may be something in it

[Heres Johnny]

I agree with them - less rubbish about driving coast to coast and the car picking you and parking itself as being only a marginal step away and just as fast as the regulators will allow which seems to the thrust of the Tesla web site. What a little off is Direct Line give a 10% reduction if you have autipilot so while the insurance body may think the names are misleading, and indirectly can lead to an increase in risk if you misunderstand, the data suggests the risk is lower overall. Unless DL are purely doing it as a marketing gimmick.