BMW 225xe (2 Series Active Tourer)
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mikey k said:
Bought the wife a BMW 225XE because it had a good driving position, was AWD and drove well. A side benefit was being an EV as well.
It will do 20 miles on a 6hr 10A charge. That works out at 13.1p/mile on electric. Having drained the charge it's doing 40 mpg, at £1.25/litre, that is 14.0p/mile.
Not sure if gas/coal or wood in a power station massively reduces the CO2 output compared to burning petrol?
Well, AWD for a while! But when you put the numbers down like that it does beg the question.It will do 20 miles on a 6hr 10A charge. That works out at 13.1p/mile on electric. Having drained the charge it's doing 40 mpg, at £1.25/litre, that is 14.0p/mile.
Not sure if gas/coal or wood in a power station massively reduces the CO2 output compared to burning petrol?
SidJames said:
mikey k said:
Bought the wife a BMW 225XE because it had a good driving position, was AWD and drove well. A side benefit was being an EV as well.
It will do 20 miles on a 6hr 10A charge. That works out at 13.1p/mile on electric. Having drained the charge it's doing 40 mpg, at £1.25/litre, that is 14.0p/mile.
Not sure if gas/coal or wood in a power station massively reduces the CO2 output compared to burning petrol?
Well, AWD for a while! But when you put the numbers down like that it does beg the question.It will do 20 miles on a 6hr 10A charge. That works out at 13.1p/mile on electric. Having drained the charge it's doing 40 mpg, at £1.25/litre, that is 14.0p/mile.
Not sure if gas/coal or wood in a power station massively reduces the CO2 output compared to burning petrol?
That is good enough for what she wants
mikey k said:
Bought the wife a BMW 225XE because it had a good driving position, was AWD and drove well. A side benefit was being an EV as well.
It will do 20 miles on a 6hr 10A charge. That works out at 13.1p/mile on electric. Having drained the charge it's doing 40 mpg, at £1.25/litre, that is 14.0p/mile.
How much are you paying for electricity ? It will do 20 miles on a 6hr 10A charge. That works out at 13.1p/mile on electric. Having drained the charge it's doing 40 mpg, at £1.25/litre, that is 14.0p/mile.
Even at 15p a unit it's 10.8p/mile
If you use E7 that comes down to 6.5p/mile
dmsims said:
mikey k said:
Bought the wife a BMW 225XE because it had a good driving position, was AWD and drove well. A side benefit was being an EV as well.
It will do 20 miles on a 6hr 10A charge. That works out at 13.1p/mile on electric. Having drained the charge it's doing 40 mpg, at £1.25/litre, that is 14.0p/mile.
How much are you paying for electricity ? It will do 20 miles on a 6hr 10A charge. That works out at 13.1p/mile on electric. Having drained the charge it's doing 40 mpg, at £1.25/litre, that is 14.0p/mile.
Even at 15p a unit it's 10.8p/mile
If you use E7 that comes down to 6.5p/mile
My kWh unit rate is 15.81p/kWh but that does not include standing charge etc. ALL our bills should state a TCR rate (akin to APR on loans) which is the "all in" rate. Mine is 18.3p/kWh from a know competitive supplier. I don't have E7.
The battery is not 7.6kWh it is rated in Ah and is voltage dependent, it is not 12V its higher but not sure how much.
I DO know it pulled 10A at 230V for 6 hours from flat
dmsims said:
I know exactly what I am paying - you are being ripped off!
You are talking nonsense - your car should take approx 3 hours to charge
My concern is where is all that excess electricity is going - heat ?
For the past two decades I have owned a business delivering energy savings from reducing electricity consumption.You are talking nonsense - your car should take approx 3 hours to charge
My concern is where is all that excess electricity is going - heat ?
That is all.
mikey k said:
dmsims said:
I know exactly what I am paying - you are being ripped off!
You are talking nonsense - your car should take approx 3 hours to charge
My concern is where is all that excess electricity is going - heat ?
For the past two decades I have owned a business delivering energy savings from reducing electricity consumption.You are talking nonsense - your car should take approx 3 hours to charge
My concern is where is all that excess electricity is going - heat ?
That is all.
Take it up with BMW and I quote:
"As a plug-in hybrid, the BMW 2 Series Active Tourer with eDrive can charge its
lithium-ion high-voltage battery (gross capacity: 7.6 kWh) either by means of
brake energy recuperation during a journey or when plugged into a domestic
power socket (in three hours 15 minutes from empty)"
before your house burns down
dmsims said:
mikey k said:
dmsims said:
I know exactly what I am paying - you are being ripped off!
You are talking nonsense - your car should take approx 3 hours to charge
My concern is where is all that excess electricity is going - heat ?
For the past two decades I have owned a business delivering energy savings from reducing electricity consumption.You are talking nonsense - your car should take approx 3 hours to charge
My concern is where is all that excess electricity is going - heat ?
That is all.
Take it up with BMW and I quote:
"As a plug-in hybrid, the BMW 2 Series Active Tourer with eDrive can charge its
lithium-ion high-voltage battery (gross capacity: 7.6 kWh) either by means of
brake energy recuperation during a journey or when plugged into a domestic
power socket (in three hours 15 minutes from empty)"
before your house burns down
I know the current draw
I know the voltage
I know how long it took to charge from flat
I know my TRC rate
Therefore school boy maths
BTW 7.6kWh is the total energy rating of the battery (usual convention is to state it in Ah at a Voltage)
NOT the available charge
BMW quote that as 6.1 kWh but conveniently don't state the voltage so there is no way to confirm the current draw of the motors or peak current delivery.
All that said the wife loves it and the petrol goes on a fuel card so its cheaper for us to use the ICE the majority of the time
My wife has a 2017 225xe, generally we are really pleased with it. However when its running on engine only it is really noisy. I know its a little 3 cyclinder but it does sound more like a concrete mixer.
We mentioned it to dealership and they found nothing. I have noticed that the exhaust gets black quickly so perhaps its not burning petrol efficiently? Is that normal?
We mentioned it to dealership and they found nothing. I have noticed that the exhaust gets black quickly so perhaps its not burning petrol efficiently? Is that normal?
TallTony said:
My wife has a 2017 225xe, generally we are really pleased with it. However when its running on engine only it is really noisy. I know its a little 3 cyclinder but it does sound more like a concrete mixer.
We mentioned it to dealership and they found nothing. I have noticed that the exhaust gets black quickly so perhaps its not burning petrol efficiently? Is that normal?
I love the sound of it on full thrape!!We mentioned it to dealership and they found nothing. I have noticed that the exhaust gets black quickly so perhaps its not burning petrol efficiently? Is that normal?
mikey k said:
I have a company outlander, used it today so from flat thought I would charge it and see how it compares to your figures.
Fully charged in less than 6 hours (dont know how much less, was fully charged at 6 hours) from standard 3 pin plug.
Cost was £1.14, that will do 25-30 miles depending how I drive it.
Has anybody else received text messages from Total Motion asking for mileage updates on their 225? I’ve received 2 or 3 but haven’t replied to any; I figure they’d call me if it was genuine & important to them.
My other current lease & previous 2 haven’t asked me for any mileage info.
My other current lease & previous 2 haven’t asked me for any mileage info.
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