iPace currently available for £400/month wow!!

iPace currently available for £400/month wow!!

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Jasper3.0

652 posts

199 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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dmsims said:
With regard to the anecdotes on the Tesla and the longer journeys

How many 100Kw DC charges are available (for the iPace) ?

Fully charging the iPace at 50Kw is going to take about 2 hours
Ionity have just started construction of their UK stations. One of the first is just off the A/M74 at Gretna. Neath, Maidstone and Thurrock are in process as well. There is also a charger in Norther Ireland just started construction as well. Looking at how quickly they have they rolled out across Europe, I hope there will be a different picture this time next year.

https://ionity.evapi.de/#/


Edited by Jasper3.0 on Sunday 16th December 14:00


Edited by Jasper3.0 on Sunday 16th December 17:31

Jazzy Jag

3,412 posts

90 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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red_slr said:
Is the cabin air only electric? I would have thought they would use a wet system with a rad but maybe not then?
Its free heat but I don't know anything about the way the iPace works.
No it's not fair only.

It's a very elaborate system with several heat exchangers and sources heat from the batteries and fron air sources.

HVAC is the best part of a day of the training course.

gangzoom

6,251 posts

214 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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I don't know how the iPace is setup but any heat in an EV comes from the battery, either through the HVAC system, heat seater, or heat generated by the drivetrain. Interms of drivetrain heat, from what I know how the Tesla system works any excess heat is first used to maintain battery temp.

Travelling at 70mph+ in barely above zero temps means lots of cold air around the battery which will cause heat loss, a cold battery is not an efficient one, hence first place any 'excess' heat goes is the battery.

The iPace does have a more efficent HVAC system than a Tesla, using a heat pump, but at close to zero the heat pump in my old Leaf pulled 4KW. Apparently heat seaters full less than 60Wh which is by far the most efficent way to keep the human warm in an EV.

The battery is still the most important part to heat up in an EV in cold weather, even with the heating system off my old Leaf had awful range in the cold - 60 miles absolute max, due to not been able to heat up the battery which means poor discharge efficency.

https://www.teslarati.com/energy-saving-tips-tesla...




Edited by gangzoom on Sunday 16th December 14:47

Jasper3.0

652 posts

199 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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Finance papers finally received this week, along with build date.

Who on PH is due to receive their car first?

red_slr

17,122 posts

188 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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Mine not due till mid Feb.
I think there are a few people with December builds so they will get theirs in the new year.

bimjim

249 posts

162 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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Mine is due late February or early March.

kizzz

42 posts

154 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Had mine for 3 months or so. Thought the charger was broken because it didn't do 22kw on 3 phase but just found out it doesn't accept this.

What's the point doing 100kw on dc but not accept 3 phase?


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Is it 7kw?

kizzz

42 posts

154 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Yup. The app informs you that your car won't be fully charged for the morning. I have seen that every day..

Also occasionally it doesn't charge for some obscure reason which is annoying when you find out it has no charge first thing in the morning.

amstrange1

599 posts

175 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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kizzz said:
Had mine for 3 months or so. Thought the charger was broken because it didn't do 22kw on 3 phase but just found out it doesn't accept this.

What's the point doing 100kw on dc but not accept 3 phase?
Because the on-board charger needs to be larger to do 22kW 3-phase vs 7kW single-phase, whereas doing 100kW on DC is potentially just slightly thicker cables; fuses and larger charge contactor(s). For the DC charging the expensive electronic bits are in the charge station, for AC charging those bits are on the car.

red_slr

17,122 posts

188 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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kizzz said:
Had mine for 3 months or so. Thought the charger was broken because it didn't do 22kw on 3 phase but just found out it doesn't accept this.

What's the point doing 100kw on dc but not accept 3 phase?
Interesting.... and probably just saved me a load of hassle as I have 3 phase and was going to extend through to the garage.

kizzz

42 posts

154 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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amstrange1 said:
Because the on-board charger needs to be larger to do 22kW 3-phase vs 7kW single-phase, whereas doing 100kW on DC is potentially just slightly thicker cables; fuses and larger charge contactor(s). For the DC charging the expensive electronic bits are in the charge station, for AC charging those bits are on the car.
Thanks didn't consider that.

However I think they are slightly misleading with the advertising of fast charging. The reality is that you can never fast charge this car in the UK.

I had bought snazzy 3 phase keba ev charging stations for the new house. Guess I will have to wait for the next batch of evs.


saaby93

32,038 posts

177 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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kizzz said:
amstrange1 said:
Because the on-board charger needs to be larger to do 22kW 3-phase vs 7kW single-phase, whereas doing 100kW on DC is potentially just slightly thicker cables; fuses and larger charge contactor(s). For the DC charging the expensive electronic bits are in the charge station, for AC charging those bits are on the car.
Thanks didn't consider that.

However I think they are slightly misleading with the advertising of fast charging. The reality is that you can never fast charge this car in the UK.

I had bought snazzy 3 phase keba ev charging stations for the new house. Guess I will have to wait for the next batch of evs.
Doesnt the Byd have 3 phase charging?

jjwilde

Original Poster:

1,904 posts

95 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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So come on, who's first to get one of these crazy bargains this month? biggrin

Heres Johnny

7,175 posts

123 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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Vorix

93 posts

208 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Had notification of delivery from Fleetprices today. Could have it next week but I’m not available and my charging point isn’t being installed until 28th so that is when it is arriving. Bonus is that it is coming with 20 inch wheels at no extra cost :-)

Jasper3.0

652 posts

199 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Well done. Any idea why you are getting 20” wheels? Are we all going to get them? Now that would be nice.

Do you have any idea what your build date was?

Edited by Jasper3.0 on Wednesday 9th January 21:05

red_slr

17,122 posts

188 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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My car goes into build next few days..... if I get 20s I will be made up!

Vorix

93 posts

208 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Build date was 14th December apparently. Original delivery to dealer was going to be 25th Jan but obviously something got sped up somewhere. Apparently I'm the the only one getting the 20" wheels - no idea why - some production snafu I guess where they didn't have any 18's left?

Vorix

93 posts

208 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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Car arrived today! Unfortunately it sat on the drive until this evening when I got a chance to have a quick runaround, register the app etc. It might only be the basic model but it's OK although I may miss the heated windscreen, especially with the forecast for the next couple of days. Driving experience is excellent and the handling is very good, even on cold roads with cold tyres.