Outlander MK1 PHEVtastic for family / commute?

Outlander MK1 PHEVtastic for family / commute?

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theog87

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49 posts

10 months

Sunday 4th November
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Afternoon all,

So a while back I was quite interested on getting a leaf for a commuting car (10k a year roughly). I would then have X for long trips and maybe something fun for the weekend.

So I was always quite interested in the Outlander PHEV so went to go see one today. Admittedly it was the new one, but the dealer guy said he maybe getting a gen 1 in for used. This has 40k on the clock but would be going for around £14k.

My work is 11miles away and thinking about it, I maybe able to get my boss to allow some kind of charge point (as we are now doing building works). So potentially it could run of electricity both ways, then utilise the 2L petrol on board for the long journeys.... so maybe I could get this as the main long haul + commuter car. All in one so to speak. I may keep my wifes mitsubishi cold 1L just for the sake of it, as it's quite handy and cheap to run.

He was saying that although it's got 40k on the clock, often 30k of that is electric only... this makes me think, that if looked after, it could potentially out last some ICE cars in terms of reliability as it's a naturally aspirated (not turbos to worry about) 2L petrol engine (~40mpg on petrol alone). Also Jap cars tend to be better than euro in terms of reliability.

Although the boot space is quite high up, it still has room, and obviously has room on top for roof box, so i think could work well for euro trips.

Pretty painfully slow at 0-60 in 11s though.

Anyones thoughts on my situation? All posts I have seen so far have been as company cars.

Thanks,

Theo


Merry

756 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th November
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I was in your situation, and bought one. It was £14.5k and has 40,000 miles on the clock. We got the GX4h, as it has an electric heater, the the 3 doesn't. It can also pre heat, which is both useful and extends the range a little.

11 miles to work is about right, most of the time you'll get there and back on that although a charger at work couldn't hurt. My wife's commute is 15 miles with no charging at work, she gets there and back if the traffic is crap (m6 motorway!) or most of the way back if traffic is good.

We see about 30-40mpg on longer runs with a flat battery.

It's not the most involving to drive, but as a tool quite useful.


theog87

Original Poster:

49 posts

10 months

Sunday 4th November
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Merry said:
We got the GX4h, as it has an electric heater, the the 3 doesn't. It can also pre heat, which is both useful and extends the range a little.
Ok very interesting.

Would you say the GX4h is a must, or would you still go for a GX3h if ~£14k?

The guy was saying they sell very quickly, often not even getting on the forecourt. Hes a sales man, so well, you never quite know, but does that sound about right? I don't want to miss a bargain but at the same time I don't want to be rushing that's for sure.

Merry

756 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th November
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theog87 said:
Ok very interesting.

Would you say the GX4h is a must, or would you still go for a GX3h if ~£14k?

The guy was saying they sell very quickly, often not even getting on the forecourt. Hes a sales man, so well, you never quite know, but does that sound about right? I don't want to miss a bargain but at the same time I don't want to be rushing that's for sure.
I would to be honest, the salesman is partially right, we tried to view a couple before getting ours that sold within a day or so of listing.

Most GX4s are 14k+ but I saw 3s as low as 12k, you got a link to the one you're looking at?

theog87

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49 posts

10 months

Sunday 4th November
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Merry said:
you got a link to the one you're looking at?
It's not even in the 'garage' yet, so i know nothing about it. He said he would email me as soon as it comes in. I have asked for specs and the likes of.

Any obvious things to look out for?

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Merry

756 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th November
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theog87 said:
It's not even in the 'garage' yet, so i know nothing about it. He said he would email me as soon as it comes in. I have asked for specs and the likes of.

Any obvious things to look out for?
Usual stuff to be honest, service history etc. Most of these have come off lease.

I would recommend taking an obd reader and an app called phev watchdog. It'll tell you what sort of condition the battery is in.

theog87

Original Poster:

49 posts

10 months

Sunday 4th November
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Merry said:
I would recommend taking an obd reader and an app called phev watchdog. It'll tell you what sort of condition the battery is in.
Hmm good shout!

I need to look into the options as the rear facing camera would be good to have.

Merry

756 posts

124 months

Sunday 4th November
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theog87 said:
Hmm good shout!

I need to look into the options as the rear facing camera would be good to have.
No worries

If I'm honest I'd spend an extra few hundred quid and get a gx4. 14k is a bit strong for a 3

theog87

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49 posts

10 months

Sunday 4th November
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Merry said:
If I'm honest I'd spend an extra few hundred quid and get a gx4. 14k is a bit strong for a 3
Ok interesting.

I'm not sure on the specs let alone the colour even so hopefully he will get back to me early next week (fingers crossed).

Russ T Bolt

1,026 posts

219 months

Monday 5th November
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theog87 said:
Afternoon all,

Pretty painfully slow at 0-60 in 11s though.
Have you driven one yet ?

I find the performance pretty good for what it is.

When you do test drive one, press the charge button before putting your foot down.


deltaevo16

671 posts

107 months

Monday 5th November
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The car is an able performer for what it is, at nearly 2 ton I find it goes pretty well, running at 65mph can get you a decent mpg figure.I still get around 25 miles on a full charge, I have a charge point at work, so my journeys to and from are low cost, unless I use a bit of petrol to heat the car. An overnight charge at home costs me just over a pound.

Get the 4 over the 3 as you can pre heat before you drive it. Makes life more comfortable on frosty mornings.

Most I got out of a tank of fuel (45 quid) was just shy of 900 miles. If you travel on B roads you can use regen braking most of the time I use rather paddles all the time. My Phev which is 4 years old is showing just over 91% SOC. Overall it’s a nice vehicle very quite drive, decent sound system, sat nav works pretty good I’ve never got lost with it. Carries a fair bit in the back. When I compare it to my old Rangie I can’t believe how much money I’m saving in fuel.

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BrettMRC

939 posts

96 months

Monday 5th November
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If it's anything like the facelift version, look out for failing trim and rattles.

theog87

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49 posts

10 months

Tuesday 6th November
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Russ T Bolt said:
Have you driven one yet ?
Not yet. I like to do some research before buying anything, so maybe looking at one later in the week.

Just a few questions for you guys if you don't mind:
- Anyone know what the 2L petrol engine is like in terms of reliability. I know the lancer's are quite reliable, so would you expect it to have a few miles in it? Could you see the car as a whole hitting say 140k if looked after?
- If i do have to go for the 3, can you get after market camera installed?
- Anyone have any ideas about costs of replacement of the batteries? Just thinking say 5 years down the line when I want better range etc.
- On petrol only, is MPG ~35 realistically? What's the most you get out of it on the motorway?
- I'm guessing it runs on the same principle of only really charging via a specific car charger rather than 3 point plug?#

Any help greatly appreciated.

Best

Theo


theog87

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49 posts

10 months

Tuesday 6th November
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Sorry one last thing... I've never thought of it before, but you guys done any off roading in it?

Could be a 'sport' I could get used to haha

BrettMRC

939 posts

96 months

Tuesday 6th November
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Only fields and dry lanes.

They are no good for fording etc.