UK Tesla Model 3 will come with CCS connector

UK Tesla Model 3 will come with CCS connector

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Smiljan

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10,838 posts

197 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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https://electrek.co/2018/11/14/tesla-model-3-ccs-2...

Looks like CCS is winning the fight for dominance in the EV market. Makes sense for Tesla to do this given the spread of this connection in Europe. I wonder if their superchargers will be upgraded to offer CCS paid access to other EV makes and models.

Could be a nice earner for Tesla if they do choose to go down that route.

Edited by Smiljan on Wednesday 14th November 17:22

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Talk of adaptors for the s and x, I thought ccs forbid those?

Wonder what we'll get down here.

FlossyThePig

4,083 posts

243 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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RobDickinson said:
Wonder what we'll get down here.
Don't you just get second hand cars from Japan? CHAdeMO for you then.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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FlossyThePig said:
RobDickinson said:
Wonder what we'll get down here.
Don't you just get second hand cars from Japan? CHAdeMO for you then.
Yeah we do , but tesla sell new direct here, afik the only imported teslas are from Oz.

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Almost every fast charger in NZ is 50kw and has both chademo and CCS
Theres only 5-6 actual supercharger sites though they are well positioned.
Audi and an electricity company have just announced they will put in a network of 150kw CCS but given there is only 100 etrons coming into nz next year max, and the taycan not until 2021 this wont be rushed...

Edited by RobDickinson on Wednesday 14th November 19:33

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Just a shame about that awful boot opening. C'mon Tesla, make a hatchback version for the European market, you know it makes sense.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Witchfinder said:
Just a shame about that awful boot opening. C'mon Tesla, make a hatchback version for the European market, you know it makes sense.
+1

I'm very tempted with a model 3, but the only doubt/issue is the boot.. Before I could buy one we'll be seeing the model Y which will probably be more appropriate, just dont know when it would turn up, 2021/22?

EddieSteadyGo

11,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Witchfinder said:
Just a shame about that awful boot opening. C'mon Tesla, make a hatchback version for the European market, you know it makes sense.
I read somewhere that they considered originally make the model 3 as a hatchback but decided against it as they preferred to instead maximise the headroom for rear passengers. Not sure if this is 100% true, but it isn't a trade off I would have made.

EddieSteadyGo

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203 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Smiljan said:
https://electrek.co/2018/11/14/tesla-model-3-ccs-2...

Looks like CCS is winning the fight for dominance in the EV market. Makes sense for Tesla to do this given the spread of this connection in Europe. I wonder if their superchargers will be upgraded to offer CCS paid access to other EV makes and models.

Could be a nice earner for Tesla if they do choose to go down that route.
Interesting development. Musk seems inclined to prefer his own propriety tech whenever possible, so the fact he is conceding this point suggests he thinks CCS is going to win long term. IMO that puts a big dent in the long term viability of their supercharging network.

Smiljan

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10,838 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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A little like Apple finally switch over slowly to the USB-C connector.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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EddieSteadyGo said:
I read somewhere that they considered originally make the model 3 as a hatchback but decided against it as they preferred to instead maximise the headroom for rear passengers. Not sure if this is 100% true, but it isn't a trade off I would have made.
It doesn't have to be a compromise. It could have been a Focus type of hatchback, rather than the Model S type of hatchback. It would have been a lot more practical!

FeelingLucky

1,083 posts

164 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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I'd rather have the pan roof, as would most according to Tesla's market research.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Interesting development. Musk seems inclined to prefer his own propriety tech whenever possible, so the fact he is conceding this point suggests he thinks CCS is going to win long term. IMO that puts a big dent in the long term viability of their supercharging network.
Afik German law is mandating ccs. Tesla are going to retrofit ccs to all the superchargers in Europe.

RJG46

980 posts

68 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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FeelingLucky said:
I'd rather have the pan roof, as would most according to Tesla's market research.
Did Tesla do any market research in the UK?

I'd say hatches and estates vastly outnumber the amount of saloons on UK roads. And they are losing ground to SUVs, also a hatch.

Witchfinder

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252 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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RJG46 said:
Did Tesla do any market research in the UK?

I'd say hatches and estates vastly outnumber the amount of saloons on UK roads. And they are losing ground to SUVs, also a hatch.
Or indeed anywhere that isn't North America. I think they've really missed a trick here and will limit their market. I'd snap one up if it were actually usable, but there's no way I could live with that crummy boot.

RobDickinson

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254 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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It's a little odd I kind of get the reasons in USA but even there booted cars are not selling well compared to hatch.

The pickup looks like it'll go the same way, a huge thing 6 Seater ram equivalent rather than a hilux.

DMZ

1,396 posts

160 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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RobDickinson said:
Afik German law is mandating ccs. Tesla are going to retrofit ccs to all the superchargers in Europe.
CCS is the EU standard effectively. It's not mandated but the EU has said that if any public money is spent on a charger then it needs to be CCS compatible. A lot of chargers in Europe (including the UK) are combo chargers so support CCS, Chademo and Type 2. CCS will of course win out thanks to the EU mandate.

98elise

26,575 posts

161 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Witchfinder said:
RJG46 said:
Did Tesla do any market research in the UK?

I'd say hatches and estates vastly outnumber the amount of saloons on UK roads. And they are losing ground to SUVs, also a hatch.
Or indeed anywhere that isn't North America. I think they've really missed a trick here and will limit their market. I'd snap one up if it were actually usable, but there's no way I could live with that crummy boot.
I would have preferred a hatch as well. That said 400k people placed an order so they did something right.

I suspect I'll swap my 3 order to a Y as soon as they are announced. I want our main car to be an all rounder and that means hatch is highnon the list of priorities.

Heres Johnny

7,226 posts

124 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Smiljan said:
Could be a nice earner for Tesla if they do choose to go down that route.
Sell one of their USPs for a few quid per charge to other makes.?. They’d be mad at the m8 ent to even consider it if they want to sell cars.

CCS is a result of the EU, it’s as simple as that.

RobDickinson

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254 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Heres Johnny said:
CCS is a result of the EU, it’s as simple as that.
Hm so why are they doing the same on nz/Oz cars?

Heres Johnny

7,226 posts

124 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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RobDickinson said:
Heres Johnny said:
CCS is a result of the EU, it’s as simple as that.
Hm so why are they doing the same on nz/Oz cars?
Who knows but when the thread is about UK cars getting CCS it’s hardly relevant,