Just picked up my I Pace
Discussion
dmsims said:
Old photo of Jordan's car, not remotely related to this thread.The carwow and other reviews suggest great range in the I pace, winter I know will be less but so is BIK and I dont mind charging if needs be
Loan cars will be with me soon to put to the test. Heaters? Just add thermals
FiF said:
Agree with the above.
Just to reprise the figures from the video.
Started his journey to London 100% charge range 244miles.
Journey 73.7 miles one way
At one point on return journey he had done 121 miles and range was showing as 79 miles left. That starts to make the 200 mile commute look dodgy.
Gets home, 158.4 miles covered, 35 miles left.
Later goes 17 miles out, 17 miles back. Gets back just, all heating and systems have shutdown long ago, fastest it will travel is just over 20mph, manages to stagger into the garage and reach the charger.
That all means the 200 mile commute is a non starter.
Plug in hybrid imo.
Definitely not a plug in hybrid - battery is finished after 20 miles ish. They are only good for short commutes IMO. Unless of course it's to take advantage of tax breaks or something, but otherwise, not fit for purpose getting a hybrid for long commutes.Just to reprise the figures from the video.
Started his journey to London 100% charge range 244miles.
Journey 73.7 miles one way
At one point on return journey he had done 121 miles and range was showing as 79 miles left. That starts to make the 200 mile commute look dodgy.
Gets home, 158.4 miles covered, 35 miles left.
Later goes 17 miles out, 17 miles back. Gets back just, all heating and systems have shutdown long ago, fastest it will travel is just over 20mph, manages to stagger into the garage and reach the charger.
That all means the 200 mile commute is a non starter.
Plug in hybrid imo.
Guys thank you for the comments regarding range. I had applied the logic that constant speed on motorways must be a bonus but it appears this is the main issue for them. I'm still going to do the trial but reading up on the charging situation, I am going to go back and take a look at Tesla too - perhaps after 3 years the charger netwrok in the UK will be better but it seems you can hardly never find a tesla charge point.
I pace is still the forerunner
I pace is still the forerunner
Triumph Trollomite said:
Guys thank you for the comments regarding range. I had applied the logic that constant speed on motorways must be a bonus but it appears this is the main issue for them. I'm still going to do the trial but reading up on the charging situation, I am going to go back and take a look at Tesla too - perhaps after 3 years the charger netwrok in the UK will be better but it seems you can hardly never find a tesla charge point.
I pace is still the forerunner
The Tesla supercharger network is superb, and the model for how it should be.I pace is still the forerunner
The standard network is chaos, I've got a page full of apps on my phone dedicated to EV charging.
Open up ZapMap...Once you filter down to 50kw CCS points which is what you need as a minimum realy, you then have to factor in it's 50/50 whether the charge point is working, you have the correct membership signed up and it is actualy compatible to comminucate with your car. So you'd better have a backup plan.
In terms of real world range, this video they drive them all until they stop, at constand 70mph up the M1..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
If you dont want to watch it all the results were...
Mercedes EQC - 194 miles
Audi Etron - 206 miles
Nissan Leaf - 208 miles
Jaguar I Pace - 223 miles
Kia E-Niro - 255 miles
Tesla Model 3 LR - 270 miles
I am a huge advocate of BEVs, I've had 2 and wouldnt be without one, for a daily I love the way they drive.
However given your drive profile, I'm just not sure one is right for you.
Terminator X said:
Chap near me has one and it makes a strange humming sound when moving slowly ... is that "natural" or added at slow speeds to avoid silence?
TX.
Are wa talking I pace?TX.
There is a slight hum from the various fans and pumps that of course you never hear in an IC car because of the clanking diesel, and they beep in reverse to alert pedestrians.
The noise is artificially created below 20kph by a system called AVAS (Audible Vehicle Alert System).
I believe it's a legal requirement for new EV models to make a certain amount of noise at low speed. Jaguar didn't strictly need it because the iPace was released before the law came in, but they decided to add it anyway.
I believe it's a legal requirement for new EV models to make a certain amount of noise at low speed. Jaguar didn't strictly need it because the iPace was released before the law came in, but they decided to add it anyway.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 23 January 12:04
bertie said:
Terminator X said:
Chap near me has one and it makes a strange humming sound when moving slowly ... is that "natural" or added at slow speeds to avoid silence?
TX.
Are wa talking I pace?TX.
There is a slight hum from the various fans and pumps that of course you never hear in an IC car because of the clanking diesel, and they beep in reverse to alert pedestrians.
TX.
Edit - Kambites answered above.
soupdragon1 said:
Definitely not a plug in hybrid - battery is finished after 20 miles ish. They are only good for short commutes IMO. Unless of course it's to take advantage of tax breaks or something, but otherwise, not fit for purpose getting a hybrid for long commutes.
Depends though, with the increasing number of cities with clean air zones either signed off or being actively considered link a hybrid with a range better than the 1 point something miles isn't just something for short commutes if a full BEV doesn't suit for whatever reason.As always, devil in the detail around individual circumstances. Which was the point Harry was making aiui, it doesn't suit him as a day in day out solution and is therefore reduced to a very expensive run around. Things will change going forward almost certainly.
kambites said:
The noise is artificially created below 20kph by a system called AVAS (Audible Vehicle Alert System).
I believe it's a legal requirement for new EV models to make a certain amount of noise at low speed. Jaguar didn't strictly need it because the iPace was released before the law came in, but they decided to add it anyway.
My ipace doesn’t? I believe it's a legal requirement for new EV models to make a certain amount of noise at low speed. Jaguar didn't strictly need it because the iPace was released before the law came in, but they decided to add it anyway.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 23 January 12:04
Maybe I just have it switched off in one of the confusing sub menus I’ll never find again
There are two things - (1) some longer journeys are a pain due to the (lack of) charging network but (2) there is a steep learning curve with EVs. Mr Metcalfe fell into the trap of thinking he should be able to get around without having planned at all. I my experience (39k miles in a bmw i3 and 11k in an iPace) it takes some readjustment from an ICE vehicle - and I am still learning where to charge for my newly regular trip from Preston to Edinburgh and back (360 miles return done in a day on four occasions now - would be really simple with reliable chargers at two thirds of way there, but need to get back to Gretna for ionity soon to be impossibly expensive makes it tricky in cold weather. Not helped by latest software update not taking in my car properly grrr). It also depends where you are travelling as if there is a reliable charger in the right place (which isn’t a given, sadly) longer distance travelling is no problem. Mr Metcalfe only needed to ask any iPace forum about ecotricity to be warned off it
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