Model 3 UK orders.

[Durzel]

In my experience the car (M3P) feels perceptibly faster if it's above 75% charge and ideally also preconditioned. That does make it a bit of a different proposition to an ICE performance car where the power is consistent.

[ZesPak]

Durzel said:

In my experience the car (M3P) feels perceptibly faster if it's above 75% charge and ideally also preconditioned. That does make it a bit of a different proposition to an ICE performance car where the power is consistent.

Unless you go above sea level.
Or you fill it with a lesser brand of fuel.

Iirc there was a chart of it (0-60 compared to battery charge) and you'd have to get well below half charge to make it noticeable.
In my Model S I can't feel the difference until I'm sub 20% (and the battery icon turns orange).

[Durzel]

It could be psychosomatic to be honest.

[SWoll]

Battery temp makes a noticeable difference. Definitely feels quicker straight after a DC charge session with the same SOC compared to cold

[Gandahar]

There are Chinese Model 3's coming in soon due to not being able to sell them to the home market, so you should be able to haggle a better price because Tesla make a bigger gross margin.

Also they will probably be better built than the USA equivalents.

[ZesPak]

Gandahar said:

There are Chinese Model 3's coming in soon due to not being able to sell them to the home market, so you should be able to haggle a better price because Tesla make a bigger gross margin.

Also they will probably be better built than the USA equivalents.

Translation:
We're going to be getting more Chinese cars as they are cheaper to produce, price might come down if they think it can increase their demand but haggling is not something that's done at Tesla.

Also they will probably be better built than the USA equivalents.

[ZesPak]

SWoll said:

Battery temp makes a noticeable difference. Definitely feels quicker straight after a DC charge session with the same SOC compared to cold

Now that does sound familiar. Much like my diesel before, when I just drove the car it feels snappier.
Deffo some warm-up benefits to EV's as well.
Don't have the P, but I gather they want to pre-condition the battery before launch?

[Jordan210]

Was just looking at M3's but on teslas site no pre owned and nothing new other then some standard range ones. Anyone know what's going on ?

[Smiljan]

New shipment due in a few weeks, site will have all the unsold in inventory then and no doubt the test drive cars.

They do seem to shift the inventory cars quite quick.

[Smiljan]

Ps there’s load of Model 3s on Autotrader if you don’t want to wait. You can get a used SR+ for around £36–37k.

[Jordan210]

Smiljan said:

New shipment due in a few weeks, site will have all the unsold in inventory then and no doubt the test drive cars.

They do seem to shift the inventory cars quite quick.

I assume its worth waiting now anyway for the slightly tweaked version anyway.

[Durzel]

Definitely worth waiting for inventory that has all of the updates.

[FurtiveFreddy]

ZesPak said:

SWoll said:

Battery temp makes a noticeable difference. Definitely feels quicker straight after a DC charge session with the same SOC compared to cold

Now that does sound familiar. Much like my diesel before, when I just drove the car it feels snappier.
Deffo some warm-up benefits to EV's as well.
Don't have the P, but I gather they want to pre-condition the battery before launch?

There are several factors at play which influences the total power available:

Battery temperature
State of charge
Drive unit temperature
Inverter temperature

Managing these becomes more important on track where we're looking for optimum performance for as long as possible, but the main things to think about on the road are battery temperature and SoC.
So keeping the SoC above 90% and preconditioning for at least an hour in cold weather before you set off will give you the fastest acceleration.

[Gandahar]

ZesPak said:

Gandahar said:

There are Chinese Model 3's coming in soon due to not being able to sell them to the home market, so you should be able to haggle a better price because Tesla make a bigger gross margin.

Also they will probably be better built than the USA equivalents.

Translation:
We're going to be getting more Chinese cars as they are cheaper to produce, price might come down if they think it can increase their demand but haggling is not something that's done at Tesla.

Also they will probably be better built than the USA equivalents.

"but haggling is not something that's done at Tesla

Such is now.

Wait till the future...





The more time goes on the more Tesla starts to look like legacy car makers on what they offer.

Edited by Gandahar on Wednesday 21st October 19:01

[nicfaz]

Bobtherallyfan said:

SWoll said:

I'm under orders to not do it without warning. After my wife thought it would be funny to catch me out with it whilst leaning forward to change the track on Spotify I know why. my neck ached for 2 days..

It's a hell of a party piece and one I don't think ICE drivers can really understand until it's been experienced. The throttle response and overtaking ability are if anything more impressive than the 0-60 time.

One trick pony basically

And here you are again, on every Tesla thread, telling all the enthusiasts with Tesla's that Tesla's aren't for enthusiasts. You're not that bloke that Elon accused of being a pedophile , are you? It would explain a lot of your posts.

[Frimley111R]

Smiljan said:

Moving back to the actual driving, I'm surprised myself how underwhelming it was and I didn't come back buzzing wanting to buy one immediately like I thought I might. In a way this has been a good experience as now I can wait a while and ponder and mull it over again.

In summary it seems to be a great EV and has lots going for it in the charging network, app etc... The acceleration and ease of that acceleration is impressive but it's just not something you'd really use to its full that often.

It's not a no but it's certainly something to think about whether to buy one or not, that has been the biggest surprise to me. I thought I'd be home and straight to the order page

Edited by Smiljan on Tuesday 20th October 13:40

My exact feelings having driven one a few weeks ago. A 50k car with mad acceleration and I just thought 'Yeah, it was ok.' Weird.

[Lim]

Why wouldn't you use it often?

[Moley RUFC]

Frimley111R said:

Smiljan said:

Moving back to the actual driving, I'm surprised myself how underwhelming it was and I didn't come back buzzing wanting to buy one immediately like I thought I might. In a way this has been a good experience as now I can wait a while and ponder and mull it over again.

In summary it seems to be a great EV and has lots going for it in the charging network, app etc... The acceleration and ease of that acceleration is impressive but it's just not something you'd really use to its full that often.

It's not a no but it's certainly something to think about whether to buy one or not, that has been the biggest surprise to me. I thought I'd be home and straight to the order page

Edited by Smiljan on Tuesday 20th October 13:40

My exact feelings having driven one a few weeks ago. A 50k car with mad acceleration and I just thought 'Yeah, it was ok.' Weird.

Agreed...same here. The M3P is the first car I’ve owned that I don’t wake up and think “I’d love a drive in it today”

[EddieSteadyGo]

Moley RUFC said:

Agreed...same here. The M3P is the first car I’ve owned that I don’t wake up and think “I’d love a drive in it today”

And if you were getting one again, do you think the P version is worth the premium over the LR version?

I am currently considering whether to change my i-pace for a model 3. Would prefer the usability of the Model Y but seems like that is going to be another 12-18 months before it is readily available. Normally I would be inclined to pick the faster version, but I'm just wondering if the more sensible choice would be the LR with the acceleration software update.

[nicfaz]

EddieSteadyGo said:

Moley RUFC said:

Agreed...same here. The M3P is the first car I’ve owned that I don’t wake up and think “I’d love a drive in it today”

And if you were getting one again, do you think the P version is worth the premium over the LR version?

I am currently considering whether to change my i-pace for a model 3. Would prefer the usability of the Model Y but seems like that is going to be another 12-18 months before it is readily available. Normally I would be inclined to pick the faster version, but I'm just wondering if the more sensible choice would be the LR with the acceleration software update.

Before the government changed the rules, I would have said the M3P, but now I think you get the £3k off the LR but not off the M3P as it's over £50k.

The M3P is quicker 0-30 than the LR with acceleration software update, handles a bit better and has bigger brakes and nicer alloys as standard. It also has track mode, which is a giggle. But in standard form the suspension and brakes aren't really up to extended track work anyway. And the smaller alloys / tyres mean the LR has materially more range. Plus you can get a towbar on the LR for things like bike racks.

I would be tempted to get the LR if I was buying now. It's close and either would be fine, but the extra £3k off would clinch it.