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DonkeyApple said:
The sketches reminded me of the Allegro Estate. 
It’s going to be a huge cabin space and I think what’s interesting about that is that it could trigger high end buyers to question why they actually get so little space in some very big cars.
indeed, hardly ground breaking or innovativeIt’s going to be a huge cabin space and I think what’s interesting about that is that it could trigger high end buyers to question why they actually get so little space in some very big cars.
by the time they have a prototype on the road VW will be making 3 million EVs a year, and 50% of the cars on the road will be tesla's lol
DonkeyApple said:
Pica-Pica said:
Ah, the true Brit Brexit-man, who quit the country!
Tabloid kaffufle. Anyone pro Brexit knows we need to position ourselves more in Asia and be less reliant on the EU going forward. He’s done exactly the right thing. Brains and money in UK, manufacturing where land and labour is cheap. He hasn’t left the UK but positioned his company to best serve his belief that Brexit is the right move.
Brexit isn’t about getting rid of foreigners and building tat back in the UK. It’s actually about business now needing to look beyond the EU and position itself correctly as a result.
"Brains and money in UK, manufacturing where land and labour is cheap." Really ? so there are no Brains or money in other countries move your company to Singapore and you can can pay Zero Tax
Dyson opens S$587m R&D centre at Singapore Science Park
The new facility will focus on developing new technologies for the future including artificial intelligence, machine learning, robotics, fluid dynamics and vision systems.
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/dys...
GT6k said:
hidetheelephants said:
What exactly do you do with end-of-life CF components? Can you pyrolise the resin out and re-use the CF? Even if it's possible the energy cost will be pretty poor.
Carbon composite recycling is a fully commercialized process with UK based companies such as http://www.elgcf.com/Toaster said:
He hasn’t left the UK but positioned his company to best serve his "self interest and bank balance" that Brexit is the right move. Is probably a more truthful statement.
"Brains and money in UK, manufacturing where land and labour is cheap." Really ? so there are no Brains or money in other countries move your company to Singapore and you can can pay Zero Tax
Dyson opens S$587m R&D centre at Singapore Science Park
The new facility will focus on developing new technologies for the future including artificial intelligence, machine learning, robotics, fluid dynamics and vision systems.
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/dys...
R&D spend is favourably treated by the UK tax system too - not quite Singapore, but not bad"Brains and money in UK, manufacturing where land and labour is cheap." Really ? so there are no Brains or money in other countries move your company to Singapore and you can can pay Zero Tax
Dyson opens S$587m R&D centre at Singapore Science Park
The new facility will focus on developing new technologies for the future including artificial intelligence, machine learning, robotics, fluid dynamics and vision systems.
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/dys...
For large companies, 12% of qualifying R&D spend can be earned as a credit against taxation
For small companies up to 230% of qualifying costs can be deducted from yearly profit.
They are a few years late to the party, plus Dyson underestimate the massive damage done to their brand by the hand dryers they have produced over the past few years.
They offer two models, one you stick your hands into (and can't help but touch the sides) which then blasts water into your face or you have the downwards V dryers which blast the water off your hands in an arched fan which lands directly onto your shoes so it looks like you've pissed yourself.
Dyson have cornered a niche in the market finding gullible people willing to pay £400 for a hairdryer or a fan but they are exactly the sort of people who will only be buying German cars.
I've had a Dyson vacuum and it failed after very little use just out of warranty, there was no goodwill offered and I know have a Vax which does the same job for a third of the price and is still going strong.
I suggest anyone considering a Dyson car watch the teardown of this $500 Dyson cleaner which likely has a BOM of just a few pounds, any company which produces a cleaner with non user serviceable filters is just treating their customers with contempt.
https://youtu.be/NPTzNJMd19A
They offer two models, one you stick your hands into (and can't help but touch the sides) which then blasts water into your face or you have the downwards V dryers which blast the water off your hands in an arched fan which lands directly onto your shoes so it looks like you've pissed yourself.
Dyson have cornered a niche in the market finding gullible people willing to pay £400 for a hairdryer or a fan but they are exactly the sort of people who will only be buying German cars.
I've had a Dyson vacuum and it failed after very little use just out of warranty, there was no goodwill offered and I know have a Vax which does the same job for a third of the price and is still going strong.
I suggest anyone considering a Dyson car watch the teardown of this $500 Dyson cleaner which likely has a BOM of just a few pounds, any company which produces a cleaner with non user serviceable filters is just treating their customers with contempt.
https://youtu.be/NPTzNJMd19A
untakenname said:
They are a few years late to the party, plus Dyson underestimate the massive damage done to their brand by the hand dryers they have produced over the past few years.
They offer two models, one you stick your hands into (and can't help but touch the sides) which then blasts water into your face or you have the downwards V dryers which blast the water off your hands in an arched fan which lands directly onto your shoes so it looks like you've pissed yourself.
Dyson have cornered a niche in the market finding gullible people willing to pay £400 for a hairdryer or a fan but they are exactly the sort of people who will only be buying German cars.
I've had a Dyson vacuum and it failed after very little use just out of warranty, there was no goodwill offered and I know have a Vax which does the same job for a third of the price and is still going strong.
I suggest anyone considering a Dyson car watch the teardown of this $500 Dyson cleaner which likely has a BOM of just a few pounds, any company which produces a cleaner with non user serviceable filters is just treating their customers with contempt.
https://youtu.be/NPTzNJMd19A
Haha. That must be the first time someone has thought they wouldn’t buy a certain car because of dodgy toilet facilities!!They offer two models, one you stick your hands into (and can't help but touch the sides) which then blasts water into your face or you have the downwards V dryers which blast the water off your hands in an arched fan which lands directly onto your shoes so it looks like you've pissed yourself.
Dyson have cornered a niche in the market finding gullible people willing to pay £400 for a hairdryer or a fan but they are exactly the sort of people who will only be buying German cars.
I've had a Dyson vacuum and it failed after very little use just out of warranty, there was no goodwill offered and I know have a Vax which does the same job for a third of the price and is still going strong.
I suggest anyone considering a Dyson car watch the teardown of this $500 Dyson cleaner which likely has a BOM of just a few pounds, any company which produces a cleaner with non user serviceable filters is just treating their customers with contempt.
https://youtu.be/NPTzNJMd19A
You have a point though, some Dyson stuff does them no favours and if their cars are priced like their other products they won’t sell many.
We have two Animal DC07s, one in the house about 7yo and one in the garage, about 10/11yo. The latter gets some real abuse and just bashes on and on albeit taped up a bit!
When they do fail they’ll not be replaced by Dysons; they only do the ball things and cordless and they’re also stupidly expensive.
sambucket said:
Are their electric motors any good?
The problem is really that ALL electric motors are good! A really, really shoddy electric motor, like the worst, designed and cheapest made one is still something like 94% efficient, so even if they somehow made a mystical 100% efficient motor, their car would only go 6% further on any given amount of energy than everyone else, ie say 318 miles rather than 300 miles, which lets be honest, is irrelevant......... autocar said:
The Dyson car is likely to have alloy wheels of a highly unusual 23-24in diameter, running thin tyres of around 45-55 profile. The company is understood already to have a tyre supplier. The inventor said experiments show these wheels have considerably lower rolling resistance than smaller, wider wheels and their greater inertia (often deemed a fault) will help with regenerative brakling.
^^^^ er, who wants to be the one to point out the fact that it seems a basic grasp of physics seems to have escaped Dyson??(hint, consider how fast the bit of the tyre touching the road is travelling for any given diameter of wheel (trick question!))
I'm on board with whoever said this is another top end of the market play. The market needs affordable, mass produced EVs, not luxury priced EVs. Dyson consistently have demonstrated that their model is sell innovation-led but ultimately simple products at a premium - can't see why this will be any different.
untruth said:
I'm on board with whoever said this is another top end of the market play. The market needs affordable, mass produced EVs, not luxury priced EVs. Dyson consistently have demonstrated that their model is sell innovation-led but ultimately simple products at a premium - can't see why this will be any different.
The problem with cheap EVs is that they can’t yet be made cheap enough, there isnt enough battery production yet and it’s the segment that most needs a very comprehensive charging network. The closest so far is VW and even that’s in limited numbers. The whole EV movement is very much too down and it will take some time for that to change.
And when it does I suspect we shall see some unexpected corporate actions as the weaker low end Western car brands get bought out, maybe by tech or retail companies.
Dyson's original prowess was in turbo machinery and later high speed motors, so maybe his car will be electric turbo fan powered, not through the wheels.
Maybe "World Dryer Corporation Berkeley Illinois" (230V 10A inc 1A motor) should diverge into making electric cars, get Dyson back for nicking all their hand dryer sales...
Maybe "World Dryer Corporation Berkeley Illinois" (230V 10A inc 1A motor) should diverge into making electric cars, get Dyson back for nicking all their hand dryer sales...
Thornaby said:
When I recently took my Dyson to bits, I’m sure the motor was made by Samsung.
Bought a Henry instead of replacing the motor and it’s much better.
I bet you felt cheated! I watched a BOLTR video on YouTube where he strips a mains-powered Dyson and that motor wasn't built by them. I think their rechargeable vacuums all used Dyson-designed motors though.Bought a Henry instead of replacing the motor and it’s much better.
Max_Torque said:
autocar said:
The Dyson car is likely to have alloy wheels of a highly unusual 23-24in diameter, running thin tyres of around 45-55 profile. The company is understood already to have a tyre supplier. The inventor said experiments show these wheels have considerably lower rolling resistance than smaller, wider wheels and their greater inertia (often deemed a fault) will help with regenerative brakling.
^^^^ er, who wants to be the one to point out the fact that it seems a basic grasp of physics seems to have escaped Dyson??(hint, consider how fast the bit of the tyre touching the road is travelling for any given diameter of wheel (trick question!))
Max_Torque said:
^^^^ er, who wants to be the one to point out the fact that it seems a basic grasp of physics seems to have escaped Dyson??
(hint, consider how fast the bit of the tyre touching the road is travelling for any given diameter of wheel (trick question!))
It’s the extra mass of a larger wheel that increases inertia. Or am I missing something?(hint, consider how fast the bit of the tyre touching the road is travelling for any given diameter of wheel (trick question!))
Discombobulate said:
Max_Torque said:
^^^^ er, who wants to be the one to point out the fact that it seems a basic grasp of physics seems to have escaped Dyson??
(hint, consider how fast the bit of the tyre touching the road is travelling for any given diameter of wheel (trick question!))
It’s the extra mass of a larger wheel that increases inertia. Or am I missing something?(hint, consider how fast the bit of the tyre touching the road is travelling for any given diameter of wheel (trick question!))
I had an employment agency contacting me, head hunting for the Dyson EV division at Hullavington. The job had lots of travel to SIngapore so they must be using both sites and building up the workforce in both countries. Unfortunately I didn't have the skills (Financial business analyst) but the pay and benefits seemed decent.
Its a pity they are building a high-end car and not an affordable one, it looks to me like one of those big Renaults, Vel Satis? Avantime? and they seem to be depending on their high-power motor technology and solid state batteries giving them an advantage.
Its a pity they are building a high-end car and not an affordable one, it looks to me like one of those big Renaults, Vel Satis? Avantime? and they seem to be depending on their high-power motor technology and solid state batteries giving them an advantage.
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