Polestar 2

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greggy50

6,168 posts

191 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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ajap1979 said:
Not many changes for the MY23 car, £2k price increase, change of no-cost colour, and some dubious new alloy wheels. Quite glad I bought mine when I did.
Yes, performance back comes with the software upgrade as well.

They only seem to offer a pilot lite pack which doesn't include the pixel headlights as well which isn't great.

My launch car was 48k OTR with both packs and a dual motor and it would now be more like 55-56k if it had a proper pilot package so quite a big change!


ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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greggy50 said:
ajap1979 said:
Not many changes for the MY23 car, £2k price increase, change of no-cost colour, and some dubious new alloy wheels. Quite glad I bought mine when I did.
Yes, performance back comes with the software upgrade as well.

They only seem to offer a pilot lite pack which doesn't include the pixel headlights as well which isn't great.

My launch car was 48k OTR with both packs and a dual motor and it would now be more like 55-56k if it had a proper pilot package so quite a big change!
The launch cars were very cheap. My March single motor standard range car with Plus and 20s was £47k. The price increase moves it more inline with the Model 3.

Pixel Lite is just a temporary thing. Polestar aren’t the only manufacturer struggling to supply matrix headlights at the moment.

dino_jr

352 posts

176 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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My P2 was delivered earlier, here it is with my other car... One car to save the Planet, one car to ruin it !!
I just tried a drive in one pedal mode and my passenger and I have mild motion sickness now. Is that normal? The way it regen brakes is quite aggressive and so I am buckarooing down the road. Not easy to get used to.


ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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dino_jr said:
My P2 was delivered earlier, here it is with my other car... One car to save the Planet, one car to ruin it !!
I just tried a drive in one pedal mode and my passenger and I have mild motion sickness now. Is that normal? The way it regen brakes is quite aggressive and so I am buckarooing down the road. Not easy to get used to.

Nice! Your P2 looks exactly the same as mine, plus I have an old Porsche to go with it too!

In terms of the regen, I prefer the Low setting rather than standard. Standard is too aggressive. Off is the way to go on the motorway.


Jacobyte

4,723 posts

242 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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dino_jr said:
I just tried a drive in one pedal mode and my passenger and I have mild motion sickness now. Is that normal?
You'll adapt pretty quickly. It takes a few drives, then the one pedal driving becomes second nature; great for pad life too. I use full regen unless on the motorway. My wife has it on the middle setting, which along with other preferences, is recognised by her key profile so there's no need to keep going into the menus each time.

JonnyVTEC

3,005 posts

175 months

Thursday 28th April 2022
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Pressing the brake pedal also commands the same regen before friction brakes engage at higher pedal effort - just like one pedal.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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Finally got one. I'll post back in a week or so with my impressions.

dgswk

892 posts

94 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Must be something about Polestar and Pork! Admittedly, the yellow thing was sold recently, currently sat on the Emira list (manual V6) or, if my garage gets built / finished sooner, a 997.1 Cab as a rolling custom project....


nickpan

580 posts

189 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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Hi All - what’s the latest verdict on the performance pack?

This is going to be the only “fast” car in the family fleet for the time being so I’m edging towards forking out the extra for the P pack. Waste of money?


Discombobulate

4,832 posts

186 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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dino_jr said:
My P2 was delivered earlier, here it is with my other car... One car to save the Planet, one car to ruin it !!
I just tried a drive in one pedal mode and my passenger and I have mild motion sickness now. Is that normal? The way it regen brakes is quite aggressive and so I am buckarooing down the road. Not easy to get used to.

You soon learn to modulate the throttle - trick is not to back off fully, unless you want to slow down quickly. At first people are on or off, when you just need to ease and squeeze.

SWoll

18,357 posts

258 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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Discombobulate said:
dino_jr said:
My P2 was delivered earlier, here it is with my other car... One car to save the Planet, one car to ruin it !!
I just tried a drive in one pedal mode and my passenger and I have mild motion sickness now. Is that normal? The way it regen brakes is quite aggressive and so I am buckarooing down the road. Not easy to get used to.

You soon learn to modulate the throttle - trick is not to back off fully, unless you want to slow down quickly. At first people are on or off, when you just need to ease and squeeze.
Out of interest if you disable auto regen in the P2 does it still regen at light brake application? Having moved from a Model 3 to etron I'm finding driving without one pedal feels more natural, and with coasting available is actually more efficient on high speed motorway runs. I use the paddles to enable regen around town where appropriate.

ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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^ Yep

South tdf

1,530 posts

195 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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nickpan said:
Hi All - what’s the latest verdict on the performance pack?

This is going to be the only “fast” car in the family fleet for the time being so I’m edging towards forking out the extra for the P pack. Waste of money?
You can retrospectively get the power upgrade downloaded to any normal dual motor car for less than £1000. The Performance pack looks good but I did not bother with it due to the reduction in ride quality from the larger wheels.

Other problem with larger wheels, one of the guys in the office has scrapped his and been told by two places they can’t be refurbished back to the original look.

ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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Has he got the PP 20” wheels? It’ll be because they’re forged, rather than cast, although a decent specialist should take the job on.

I’ve got the non-PP 20” wheels, but I’d like to try a PP car with the suspension in one of the softest settings. The forged wheels are 5kg a corner lighter than the standard 19” alloys which should help massively.

South tdf

1,530 posts

195 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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ajap1979 said:
Has he got the PP 20” wheels? It’ll be because they’re forged, rather than cast, although a decent specialist should take the job on.

I’ve got the non-PP 20” wheels, but I’d like to try a PP car with the suspension in one of the softest settings. The forged wheels are 5kg a corner lighter than the standard 19” alloys which should help massively.
Yes, 20” Performance wheels. Has email pictures to a few places and due to the indent they can’t diamond cut, probably why there are two cars on Autotrader with painted 20” wheels.

In regards weight savings, 20kg on a 2+ ton car is light a fat bird ordering an extra large Mig Mac meal with sides but opting for a Diet Coke. The Polestar is never going to be a great handling car due to its weight.

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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South tdf said:
ajap1979 said:
Has he got the PP 20” wheels? It’ll be because they’re forged, rather than cast, although a decent specialist should take the job on.

I’ve got the non-PP 20” wheels, but I’d like to try a PP car with the suspension in one of the softest settings. The forged wheels are 5kg a corner lighter than the standard 19” alloys which should help massively.
Yes, 20” Performance wheels. Has email pictures to a few places and due to the indent they can’t diamond cut, probably why there are two cars on Autotrader with painted 20” wheels.

In regards weight savings, 20kg on a 2+ ton car is light a fat bird ordering an extra large Mig Mac meal with sides but opting for a Diet Coke. The Polestar is never going to be a great handling car due to its weight.
its unsprung weight though, if it was 5kg a corner, its the same effect/feel as removing circa 80kg.

nickpan

580 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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Thanks All. I’m thinking the PP isn’t worth it.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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nickpan said:
Thanks All. I’m thinking the PP isn’t worth it.
If you're planning on taking the car on the track, it might be worth it. On the road, those big brakes aren't going to be working very hard, and the wheels are probably going to be a liability even though they look great. Adjusting the dampers sounds like a pain. It's a lot of money too - I went for the Plus Pack instead.

SWoll

18,357 posts

258 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Never understood the decision to go with such expensive adjustable dampers on the PP which pushed the price up so high. Who's buying a P2 to take on track or will likely ever get the spanners out to adjust it?

Jacobyte

4,723 posts

242 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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SWoll said:
Never understood the decision to go with such expensive adjustable dampers on the PP which pushed the price up so high. Who's buying a P2 to take on track or will likely ever get the spanners out to adjust it?
It's not necessarily about the day-to-day adjustability (spanners not really required). It's more about the ability to set them to how you want them, then leave them there, in addition to the much more responsive and supple action that they have compared with the standard setup. This, along with the brakes, comes noticeably alive when you're pushing on - the feedback level increases exponentially when you're properly leaning on it and braking late.
For us driving nerds that like to optimise the dynamic driving experience, it's certainly worthwhile. smile

On the flip side, I'm not interested in expensive detailing, swirl removal or PPF - I've washed/vacuumed the car 3 times since Feb 2021. It looks fine and generally clean.