Polestar 2

[aestetix1]

jason61c said:

I’ll be ignoring all the stuff about 80% charge, I only need it to work for 3 years, so every charge will be to 100%. I’m not worried about long term impact on the battery life.

Eventually the used market is going to have to start dealing with this. It's tricky because in many cars you need to get an OBD-II dongle to find that information and it is model specific, e.g. different Tesla batteries can withstand a different number of supercharges before they nerf themselves. Worse still Tesla can change the threshold remotely any time they like so you might buy a perfectly good battery and a month later find they decided it devalue it.

Generally charging to 100% shouldn't be an issue in large battery cars with large buffers, in fact doing it periodically is good for the battery as it allows balancing to happen. It's rapid charging that can shorten their lives significantly.

[jason61c]

SWoll said:

Was quite shocked to discover that the Polestar 2 weighs almost 300kg more than the Model 3 LR and only slightly less than an iPace? I also expect it will have a higher drag co-efficient with that bluff nose and decorative grill?

the Ipace isn't a large car either, quite small really. I'm not bothered about the 300kg, early reports say its the better drivers car, if the extra weight is partly from a higher quality interior and finish, all the better. I'm guessing the've looked into the drag co-efficient, enough to design particular mirrors, they'll be nothing in it(at a guess).

I'd also like to see how they come up with the weight?

[jason61c]

aestetix1 said:

Eventually the used market is going to have to start dealing with this. It's tricky because in many cars you need to get an OBD-II dongle to find that information and it is model specific, e.g. different Tesla batteries can withstand a different number of supercharges before they nerf themselves. Worse still Tesla can change the threshold remotely any time they like so you might buy a perfectly good battery and a month later find they decided it devalue it.

Generally charging to 100% shouldn't be an issue in large battery cars with large buffers, in fact doing it periodically is good for the battery as it allows balancing to happen. It's rapid charging that can shorten their lives significantly.

I'd like to see if its even possible to change and upgrade the battery in the future? can you 'switch off' external updates?

[Witchfinder]

Review videos on the Polestar 2 are starting to show up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/yJFXom-X6m4

Edited by Witchfinder on Sunday 5th July 11:22

[SWoll]

Witchfinder said:

Review videos on the Polestar 2 are staying to show up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/yJFXom-X6m4

Interesting. I'd have to sit in one before making judgement of course but I'm not convinced about the ergonomics of that interior based on the video?

Looks quite cramped even with a relatively small bloke driving and the placement of that control wheel right behind the drive selector appears ridiculous. Would surely have made more sense to move the drive selector up by the steering wheel with it having such a simple operation?

Does look nice quality though, and those front seats appear a big improvement on those in the Model 3.

Edited by SWoll on Sunday 5th July 11:03

[Witchfinder]

I sat in one at the roadshow, and it was really nice inside. Ergonomics were fine. I can't imagine you'd really use the dial - there are controls on the steering wheel, and you have voice control as well.

The seats are typical Volvo, so excellent form and support. Its not small, but it feels snug.

[kc21574]

I ordered the colour 'thunder' with the charcoal interior but all the reviews I've seen in print and video seem to only have the slate interior.

I'm wondering if there is a reason why everyone is opting for the slate and I need to make a change.

Anyone seen both or have an opinion as to which interior colour would go best with 'thunder'?

Thanks

[jason61c]

SWoll said:

Witchfinder said:

Review videos on the Polestar 2 are staying to show up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/yJFXom-X6m4

Interesting. I'd have to sit in one before making judgement of course but I'm not convinced about the ergonomics of that interior based on the video?

Looks quite cramped even with a relatively small bloke driving and the placement of that control wheel right behind the drive selector appears ridiculous. Would surely have made more sense to move the drive selector up by the steering wheel with it having such a simple operation?

Does look nice quality though, and those front seats appear a big improvement on those in the Model 3.

Edited by SWoll on Sunday 5th July 11:03

With the volvo connection, the ergonomics should be at the top of its class, one would hope! I do like the cockpit/snug driver feel, I guess as its suppose to be more of a drivers car, its part of the design?

[jamoor]

jason61c said:

SWoll said:

Witchfinder said:

Review videos on the Polestar 2 are staying to show up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/yJFXom-X6m4

Interesting. I'd have to sit in one before making judgement of course but I'm not convinced about the ergonomics of that interior based on the video?

Looks quite cramped even with a relatively small bloke driving and the placement of that control wheel right behind the drive selector appears ridiculous. Would surely have made more sense to move the drive selector up by the steering wheel with it having such a simple operation?

Does look nice quality though, and those front seats appear a big improvement on those in the Model 3.

Edited by SWoll on Sunday 5th July 11:03

With the volvo connection, the ergonomics should be at the top of its class, one would hope! I do like the cockpit/snug driver feel, I guess as its suppose to be more of a drivers car, its part of the design?

looks wonderful!

I do wonder where BMW/Audi/Merc are in all of this.

[ZesPak]

Once the Polestar and Ford are being delivered, the Germans' lag feels like a bigger and bigger mamal in the room. By now it's almost undeniable?

With all the Tesla talk here, any of you weighing the Polestar vs the "Mustang"? Any ideas on that?

[Witchfinder]

jamoor said:

I do wonder where BMW/Audi/Merc are in all of this.

BMW will be launching the iX3 soon, and the i4. I'd expect both inside the next year.

Audi already have the E-Tron and Sportback. The Q4 E-Tron and E-Tron GT should be here next year.

Mercedes seem to be lagging.

[jamoor]

Kolbenkopp said:

Witchfinder said:

Even the Long Range Model S might struggle to do 250 miles in cold, wet weather. Remember the maximum range on most EVs is stated with a 100% charge, but most manufacturers recommend you don't routinely charge above 80%.

Yup, sadly agree. A 250 "guaranteed" miles EV does not exist yet, and that's before even thinking about fast(ish) motor way driving.

Surely the latest model S does that, its rated at 400miles.

[Heres Johnny]

Witchfinder said:

jamoor said:

I do wonder where BMW/Audi/Merc are in all of this.

BMW will be launching the iX3 soon, and the i4. I'd expect both inside the next year.

Audi already have the E-Tron and Sportback. The Q4 E-Tron and E-Tron GT should be here next year.

Mercedes seem to be lagging.

Not to mention BMW having had the i3 for quite a few years and loved by most of its owners

There’s is a touch of irony with Merc who used to own a decent slice of Tesla

[Lakim]

Witchfinder said:

Review videos on the Polestar 2 are starting to show up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/yJFXom-X6m4

Is the guy retarded? Especially his comments about bonnet, "fuel" cap and amount of buttons on the steering wheel.

[jason61c]

ZesPak said:

Once the Polestar and Ford are being delivered, the Germans' lag feels like a bigger and bigger mamal in the room. By now it's almost undeniable?

With all the Tesla talk here, any of you weighing the Polestar vs the "Mustang"? Any ideas on that?

ford vs 'polestar'?


Just can't see it being as nice a place to be?

[SWoll]

Lakim said:

Witchfinder said:

Review videos on the Polestar 2 are starting to show up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/yJFXom-X6m4

Is the guy retarded? Especially his comments about bonnet, "fuel" cap and amount of buttons on the steering wheel.

I'd suggest he's just used to Tesla's and being able to open the bonnet, charging port etc. from the app + a lack of interior/steering wheel buttons.

Definitely a bit of a prat though.

[jason61c]

SWoll said:

I'd suggest he's just used to Tesla's and being able to open the bonnet, charging port etc. from the app + a lack of interior/steering wheel buttons.

Definitely a bit of a prat though.

Totally, also having a few buttons makes life safer and simpler. it easier and cheaper just to have a single screen.

[TheRainMaker]

SWoll said:

Lakim said:

Witchfinder said:

Review videos on the Polestar 2 are starting to show up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/yJFXom-X6m4

Is the guy retarded? Especially his comments about bonnet, "fuel" cap and amount of buttons on the steering wheel.

I'd suggest he's just used to Tesla's and being able to open the bonnet, charging port etc. from the app + a lack of interior/steering wheel buttons.

Definitely a bit of a prat though.

If we are heading to a world where it’s a problem to remember to shut a cover for a cable connection, we are in trouble.....

[SWoll]

TheRainMaker said:

SWoll said:

Lakim said:

Witchfinder said:

Review videos on the Polestar 2 are starting to show up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/yJFXom-X6m4

Is the guy retarded? Especially his comments about bonnet, "fuel" cap and amount of buttons on the steering wheel.

I'd suggest he's just used to Tesla's and being able to open the bonnet, charging port etc. from the app + a lack of interior/steering wheel buttons.

Definitely a bit of a prat though.

If we are heading to a world where it’s a problem to remember to shut a cover for a cable connection, we are in trouble.....

Easily forgotten and with the Tesla it's integrated into the rear light unit and opens upwards rather like than an old school 'fuel flap' so needs to be closed I suppose.



Quite an elegant solution IMHO.

[aestetix1]

Side charging ports are a bad idea though, seem like a hold over from fossil designs.

You have to be careful when charging on a supercharger. The cables are water cooled so they vibrate a little and can damage your paint if left resting against the body of the car. You really need to park sideways on to the charger rather than nose in. It's awkward for AC charging as well as the post is usually at the back of a nose in parking space and you have to trail the cable all the way around where it's going to get stepped on etc.

Front charge port is the ideal location.